Boeing fined $243 million for killing 346 people. Trump was fined $455 million for nothing,!

[Robert W]

If there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

Stop pretending Banks don't operate with the purpose of making profits. Banks are very protective of themselves.

 

[Robert W]

But that never stopped a Democrat controlled media from lying about it.

People in this country need to stop listening to politicians and the media, because just about every God Damned thing they say is a provable lie.

We were insiders. We know the facts. And the persecution of Trump is so wrong, even if one hates him, the persecution is totally wrong.

 

[Robert W]

Well yes. Murder wouldn't be murder either without laws addressing it.

I'll stick with addressing corruption.

Like Alec Baldwin which is a great example. First she was killed by the actor. Two got put into prison who did not kill her. Baldwin got a get out of jail free card handed to him by a judge.

 

[Robert W]

If there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

Have you ever got a loan on real estate? Seriously because the way you talk, no you never got a loan on Real estate.

 

[Robert W]

I'm good with not having the freedom to be corrupt.

You think you can't be corrupt?

 

[pknopp]

Like Alec Baldwin which is a great example. First she was killed by the actor. Two got put into prison who did not kill her. Baldwin got a get out of jail free card handed to him by a judge.

No, handed to him by those who withheld evidence.

 

[alang1216]

Stop pretending Banks don't operate with the purpose of making profits. Banks are very protective of themselves.

That was never in dispute but absolutely besides the point. The question remains, if there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

 

[alang1216]

Have you ever got a loan on real estate? Seriously because the way you talk, no you never got a loan on Real estate.

So enlighten me. If there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

 

[Robert W]

So enlighten me. If there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

Let's start with Fraud.

Do you know the legal definition of fraud? That and you took a lawyers word that values got inflated. The media loves spreading lies about Trump. And you sell the Banks out by alleging they allowed fraud on their loans.

 

[Robert W]

That was never in dispute but absolutely besides the point. The question remains, if there was no fraud involved why did the Trump organization inflate the value of its' properties? What was the purpose other than to get better loan rates from the bank and pay them less than the going rate?

I have done hundreds of loans and never took the value to be determinative of rates they paid.

 

[pknopp]

Let's start with Fraud.

Do you know the legal definition of fraud? That and you took a lawyers word that values got inflated. The media loves spreading lies about Trump. And you sell the Banks out by alleging they allowed fraud on their loans.

From the 2008 crash we know fraud ran rampant in the banks.

 

[Robert W]

From the 2008 crash we know fraud ran rampant in the banks.

Not to the point you think happened. Rarely have I seen banks commit frauds. Customers try it but Banks are damned smart. I have seen fraud in loans. I can give examples. But the Banks were not wanting fraud at all.

 

[Robert W]

No, handed to him by those who withheld evidence.

FACTS: She was shot to death inside a fake Church. Fact, Alec shot her. Then lied claiming he did not pull the trigger. Alec Baldwin belongs in jail for a good long time. Alec was the boss over all of this.

 

[Robert W]

From the 2008 crash we know fraud ran rampant in the banks.

The 2008 crash is not understand by citizens of this country. Those few of us who understand are not listened to.

 

[pknopp]

Not to the point you think happened. Rarely have I seen banks commit frauds.

Well that settles it then.

 

[pknopp]

FACTS: She was shot to death inside a fake Church. Fact, Alec shot her. Then lied claiming he did not pull the trigger. Alec Baldwin belongs in jail for a good long time. Alec was the boss over all of this.

I don't disagree with any of that. You can go back and look when this happened, I blamed him. When the police decide to withhold evidence sadly those who are guilty walk.

You would think they would learn wouldn't you?

 

[Robert W]

I don't disagree with any of that. You can go back and look when this happened, I blamed him. When the police decide to withhold evidence sadly those who are guilty walk.

You would think they would learn wouldn't you?

The fact is the ammo was not relevant. It was not fired at anybody.

 

[alang1216]

Let's start with Fraud.

Do you know the legal definition of fraud?

Yes

That and you took a lawyers word that values got inflated.

I don't recall Trump denying it, he only claimed there were no victims.

And you sell the Banks out by alleging they allowed fraud on their loans.

They didn't 'allow' it, they were victims of it.

 

[Robert W]

Yes


I don't recall Trump denying it, he only claimed there were no victims.


They didn't 'allow' it, they were victims of it.

No bank said they were victims. And if you think banks don't have experts at those banks, try this yourself Tell your bank your property is worth double. They won't listen to a word.

 

[alang1216]

I have done hundreds of loans and never took the value to be determinative of rates they paid.

You must have been a very poor loan originator then. Computing loan rates are based on the risk involved. A million dollar loan on a property valued at a half a million dollars is a very risky loan. A million dollar loan on a property valued at ten million dollars is a very safe loan. I suspect you are alone in disregarding the risk when setting the loan rate.