Bleeding heart Jeb Bush: Trump’s plan would cost hundreds of $billions

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SEE: Bush in South Texas Says Trump’s Border Plan ‘Not Realistic’

” Building a fence like Donald Trump wants “doesn’t work,” Jeb Bush tells reporters, adding “we need a comprehensive strategy to deal with border security.”

“Mr. Trump’s plans are not grounded in conservative principles”; says Trump’s fence plan would cost “hundreds of billions,” is “not realistic” and “won’t be implemented”


What bleeding heart Jeb Bush leaves out of his equation are the devastating financial and social consequences inflicted upon American Citizens by the tens of millions of aliens who have invaded our borders.

For example, let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995

Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department's Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County's assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.

Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.

A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.
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And, more recently see:

Illegal Immigration Costs California Over Ten Billion Annually

Dateline: December, 2004

Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.

Testimony about "51 Florida Hospitals in trouble" due to illegal aliens expenses:

Jun 10, 2008

”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.
The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”

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The unfortunate truth is, bleeding heart Jeb Bush cares more about the tens of millions who have invaded our borders than the devastating social and financial consequences they inflict upon American Citizens. Jeb Bush apparently is ok with making American Citizens tax slaves to pay for the social and financial consequences connected with allowing the 15-20 million poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled and in many cases criminally inspired illegal aliens to remain in our Country.

JWK



To support Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!
 
Bush, in whom I am losing interest, is right that a deportation scheme a la Trump would cost far too many billions.
 
While I am loathe to agree with anyone by that name, Bush is right that we need "a deeper strategy than just building a fence".

With net zero coming from the south, we don't need a fence but even if we did, a fence wouldn't work.

Trump is just a blowhard used car salesman and he has shown himself to be completely ignorant about the issues. That's why he just keeps saying "trust me".

He is lying that he will build a "beautiful bridge".
 
Jeb Bush is right.

Building a fence is not the answer.

Neither is traditional capture-and-detain-and-transport -style deportation.

Self-Deportation is the answer.

Not the "Self-Deportation Lite" that Romney tried to sell in 2012 (barriers to employment and licensing).

But "Self-Deportation Industrial Strength" - making it illegal for Illegals to do damned-near anything (employment, housing, banking, schools, medical care, wire-transfer, licensing, etc, etc, etc.), and establishing legal conditions so draconian that they fall all over themselves in a mad dash to the border, at their own expense, and without costing taxpayers a single dime in 'traditional' deportation operations.

But, as right as Jeb Bush is, in this narrow context...

He's also a gutless wonder, when it comes to Illegal Aliens, and he has a vested personal interest in catering to the Hispanic voting bloc, to give them whatever they want, and, therefore, he is not to be trusted with leadership in this area.

Not to mention Jeb's flip-flopping on such things as his choice of verbiage ("Anchor Babies") - demonstrating that ol' Jeb is a flip-flopper of the worst sort... blowing with the prevailing winds... and lacking the resolve to stand his ground, and do what is right for the Nation and its People.

Oh, well... even a broken clock is right twice a day... and this was Jeb's turn.
 
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Bush, in whom I am losing interest, is right that a deportation scheme a la Trump would cost far too many billions.

And how many billions in addition to the devastating social consequences will American Citizens suffer to keep the tens of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled and in many cases criminally inspired illegal aliens here? I guess you have no problem with making American Citizens tax slaves to support Bush's bleeding heart desires.

JWK




To support Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.


if you are talking about the 14th amendment, yes I do. What they really meant is documented in the historical records of the USA. the 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, nothing more.

what is being done today is an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment.
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.


if you are talking about the 14th amendment, yes I do. What they really meant is documented in the historical records of the USA. the 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, nothing more.

what is being done today is an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment.
Show us said violation?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.


if you are talking about the 14th amendment, yes I do. What they really meant is documented in the historical records of the USA. the 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, nothing more.

what is being done today is an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment.
Show us said violation?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


I explained the reason for the 14th amendment. To give citizenship to freed slaves. That was the only reason it was made part of the constitution. The drafters of the amendment did not foresee it being used to impart citizenship to children born in the USA to illegal aliens.

that interpretation is a constitutional violation of the 14th.

I took you off ignore to try to educate you, you are now back on my ignore list.
 
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Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.


if you are talking about the 14th amendment, yes I do. What they really meant is documented in the historical records of the USA. the 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, nothing more.

what is being done today is an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment.


Ridiculous but do you want to deport Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio?
 
if you got rid of all those corporations leftard who would be attending the $30,000 PER PLATE Democrat Party fundraisers?

just the Red China agents like back in the Clinton years?
 
Bush is wrong. Trump is right. We need an effective fense and we need it now. We also need to enforce our existing immigration laws and do away with the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to bring in their illegal parents.

The 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, not the illegal alien parents of anchor babies.
Doesn't say slaves now does it?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


Yabut, Redfish knows what they really meant.


if you are talking about the 14th amendment, yes I do. What they really meant is documented in the historical records of the USA. the 14th was passed to give citizenship to freed slaves, nothing more.

what is being done today is an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment.


Ridiculous but do you want to deport Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio?


Were either of their parents in the country illegally? answer: no. So once again, you ask a stupid question because you are a stupid person.
 
Trump is an idiot

mexicans are going to build this big fence and then we will round up all the Mexicans and throw them on the other side of the fence
 

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