If you let someone do it, that invalidates the claim of groping.
When they used their son's death to make an ideological political statement they lost all empathy. It was no longer about a sacrifice but about playing politics.
-So you say that as long as no charges are put forward no crime can be committed? Like I said the use of the word let is significant. If he would claim, "they want me to do it" then an argument for willingness can be made. Using the word let shows that he knows that it's his position of power that lets him get away with it, not the victims willingness. Btw in sexual assault cases it is VERY common that no charges are pressed since it takes considerable courage to come forward especially against people of power. Furthermore, after this tape a dozen woman came forward claiming it happened to them and they were UNWILLING at the time.
- So when someone who suffers a personal tragedy and they act out angrily no empathy should be given? Or is it a person only has the right to grieve in the comforts of their own circle?
Since the ones that would have had to call it groping didn't, it means it wasn't groping. Using the word "let" could mean lots of things including consent. If I let you in my house, it's because I consent to you being there. If I didn't want you there, I wouldn't let you in. Sounds to me as if your argument is "they simply didn't want to say anything".
If their grieving involves playing politics, I question whether or not they're grieving. Acting out angrily is different than playing politics.
15 women have now accused Donald Trump of sexual assault
I called it groping. These woman gave a play by play. And you're right let can be used in a different context. The context you apply, doesn't apply to the quote. That's the good thing about tape, you can actually look at the context.
- Your argument is, if they let someone that means their willing. Using that argument would make every sexual assault case in favor of the assaulter.
-To your last thing I have to hope you are just arguing but not believe it. You doubt they grief the loss of their son????? Tell me why you think, me, you, Trump and millions of other people have a right to an opinion but parents who have lost their son aren't grieving for their son when they express theirs? In the end like I pointed out, Trump hasn't spilled a drop of blood for the US but he feels he has the right to attack people who have. Don't forget he choose to go after the Khan's. It was a political convention, dozens of people attacked him, but of all those people the Khan's were the ones he choose to feud with.
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Checking Patricia Smith's claims about Clinton and Benghazi
This happened when the Republican convention had a distraught parent speaking against Clinton."I feel a great deal of sympathy for the families of the four brave Americans that we lost at Benghazi. And I certainly can't even imagine the grief that (the mother of one victim) has for losing her son." Clinton didn't attack her. She denied her version but she expressed sympathy and at no point did she go after her personally or claimed she didn't deserve empathy.
Let, allow, consent, etc. all mean the same thing.
The context bullshit argument. If it's a true assault, consent didn't occur.
I don't doubt they grieve the loss of their son. However, when they play politics, they lose credibility. I believe every word I say or I wouldn't say it. That's why I don't play the context game. That's used when someone isn't willing to stand behind what they SAID.
At the convention, all those dozens of people weren't put on the stage and paraded around for political reasons.
Clinton couldn't attack her. Clinton caused the deaths of those 4.
-No it doesn't. Letting someone grab your ***** doesn't mean you are willing or consented to it. I'll explain by the quote. "I don't wait" means I don't wait for consent. This doesn't mean necessarily the person is unwilling just that he hasn't asked specifically.
-"They let me" doesn't mean the person is willing. It could just as easily mean the person is unable to fight back, either directly or by pressing charges. If you mean the person is willing, you would use "they want me to do it".
-"I question whether or not they're grieving" Your words not mine. What does credibility got to do with it. Yes they lost their son and they express their OPINION. Is their opinion less credible because they lost their son.
-As to you not playing the context game.... Guess what.
"If you let someone do it, that invalidates the claim of groping." You did do it in this argument.
-So at the DNC convention only the Khan's spoke out against Trump? Even you have to know that's a incorrect statement.
-Clinton killed those four people? No less then 7 probes tried to establish that all came up short.
Not for nothing it's also a deflection. Both Democrats and Republicans used grieving parents to speak against their political foe. Only the Republican candidate personally attacked in response.