Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy -- M Stanton Evans

[CrusaderFrank]

The nutters like koshergirl and frank are entitled to their unfounded opinions.

McCarthy is not going to be rehabilitated.

See what I mean? Commie-crat to the bitter end

 

[PoliticalChic]

Marshall may have been a "master manipulator" as you keep saying, but I see no evidence of it in the record. He may have been wise, but he could only make decisions based on the information he had.

Having spent his entire career in the Army, Marshall knew nothing about the office politics of the State Department, or about the factions therein. He relied on Acheson who, according to Berle, headed the "pro-Russian" faction at State. Marshall had no experience of such problems, there being no "pro-Russian" faction in the Army command.

Acheson personally fired Panuch his first day on the job, then systematically got rid of everyone who opposed his faction. He told Marshall that the first order of business was to move the State Department to larger quarters, where thousands of people from hastily-vetted wartime outfits like OWI, BEA and OSS were dumped into the State Department headquarters -- among them an unbelievable number of Soviet agents. State's security hawks having been purged, these people had free reign.

Acheson trusted and believed such people, for example, publicly defending his "principal assistant" Alger Hiss even after his conviction. Such agents falsified intelligence, manipulated data, and parroted the Soviet line, that Chiang was a corrupt "fascist" while Mao was incorruptible and "democratic," that the KMT was doomed and Communism the wave of the future, etc. Those who knew better had been purged, so such counsel went unopposed.

While the Soviet agent Harry Dexter White manipulated the Chinese currency to cause economic collapse, and the Soviets massively stepped up aid to the Communists, Acheson willfully obstructed aid to Chiang in defiance of the law, and Marshall never knew what was happening.

I wonder, were the Soviets ever totally cleaned out from State? Are their descendants still operating today?

Let me add to your thesis so that some of our friends can connect the dots.

1. As damaging to the nation as the Soviet agents were, the communist philosophers were even more so. They spread the virus throughout academia. In 1923 Georg Lukacs helped establish a Marxist research center at the University of Frankfurt under the sponsorship of Felix Weil. Like Marx’s benefactor, Friedrich Engels, Weil was the son of a wealthy capitalist and an ardent Marxist who had earned a Ph.D. in political science from Frankfurt University. These rich slackers used family money to fund the Institute for Social Research, best known as the institutional home of the Frankfurt School and critical theory. http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-F...turalMarxismAndPoliticalCorrectness-part2.pdf

2. “Under Horkheimer’s leadership the Frankfurt School attracted some brilliant scholars and intellectuals such as Theodor Adorno, Eric Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, Walter Benjamin, Leo Lowenthal and Herbert Marcuse. Like Trotsky, Luxemburg, Lukacs, Bela Kun and other notable European Marxists in the early 1900s, many of the Frankfurt scholars were secular Jews, a fact that the Nazis successfully exploited in their propaganda regarding a “Jewish conspiracy” of Communist intellectuals who were perverting German society.”

3. As a result of the ascension of the Nazis, the Frankfurt School moved to Geneva, and then to New York City. The openness, freedom and liberty of the United States is all they needed to infect this society and its cultural institutions. Too many simply ignored the onslaught…”And the most dangerous thing you can do with a driven leftist intellectual clique is ignore it!” Breitbart, “Righteous Indignation,” p. 114.

4. There is a straight line from the Frankfurt School to the formation in many colleges and universities of programs, and departments of African-American Studies, Ethnic Studies, Feminist Studies, Peace Studies, and LGBT (Lesbian/Gay/Bi-sexual/Transgender) Studies.

5. “The Frankfurt School of philosophers emigrated from Nazi Germany and became dyspeptic critics of American culture. Several landed in Southern California where they were disturbed by the consumer culture and the gospel of relentless cheeriness. Depressive by nature, they focused on the disappointments and venality that surrounded them and how unnecessary it all was. It could be paradise, Theodor Adorno complained, but it was only California.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/opinion/17wed4.html


Now, who helped get the Frankfurt School situated in America?


The same man who was a major critic of Senator McCarthy....

America was up for helping scholars fleeing from Germany. The guy in charge of this was Edward R. Murrow, the Emergency Committee in Aid of Displaced Foreign Scholars.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Marshall may have been a "master manipulator" as you keep saying, but I see no evidence of it in the record. He may have been wise, but he could only make decisions based on the information he had.

Having spent his entire career in the Army, Marshall knew nothing about the office politics of the State Department, or about the factions therein. He relied on Acheson who, according to Berle, headed the "pro-Russian" faction at State. Marshall had no experience of such problems, there being no "pro-Russian" faction in the Army command.

Acheson personally fired Panuch his first day on the job, then systematically got rid of everyone who opposed his faction. He told Marshall that the first order of business was to move the State Department to larger quarters, where thousands of people from hastily-vetted wartime outfits like OWI, BEA and OSS were dumped into the State Department headquarters -- among them an unbelievable number of Soviet agents. State's security hawks having been purged, these people had free reign.

Acheson trusted and believed such people, for example, publicly defending his "principal assistant" Alger Hiss even after his conviction. Such agents falsified intelligence, manipulated data, and parroted the Soviet line, that Chiang was a corrupt "fascist" while Mao was incorruptible and "democratic," that the KMT was doomed and Communism the wave of the future, etc. Those who knew better had been purged, so such counsel went unopposed.

While the Soviet agent Harry Dexter White manipulated the Chinese currency to cause economic collapse, and the Soviets massively stepped up aid to the Communists, Acheson willfully obstructed aid to Chiang in defiance of the law, and Marshall never knew what was happening.

I wonder, were the Soviets ever totally cleaned out from State? Are their descendants still operating today?

Let me add to your thesis so that some of our friends can connect the dots.

1. As damaging to the nation as the Soviet agents were, the communist philosophers were even more so. They spread the virus throughout academia. In 1923 Georg Lukacs helped establish a Marxist research center at the University of Frankfurt under the sponsorship of Felix Weil. Like Marx’s benefactor, Friedrich Engels, Weil was the son of a wealthy capitalist and an ardent Marxist who had earned a Ph.D. in political science from Frankfurt University. These rich slackers used family money to fund the Institute for Social Research, best known as the institutional home of the Frankfurt School and critical theory. http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-F...turalMarxismAndPoliticalCorrectness-part2.pdf

2. “Under Horkheimer’s leadership the Frankfurt School attracted some brilliant scholars and intellectuals such as Theodor Adorno, Eric Fromm, Wilhelm Reich, Walter Benjamin, Leo Lowenthal and Herbert Marcuse. Like Trotsky, Luxemburg, Lukacs, Bela Kun and other notable European Marxists in the early 1900s, many of the Frankfurt scholars were secular Jews, a fact that the Nazis successfully exploited in their propaganda regarding a “Jewish conspiracy” of Communist intellectuals who were perverting German society.”

3. As a result of the ascension of the Nazis, the Frankfurt School moved to Geneva, and then to New York City. The openness, freedom and liberty of the United States is all they needed to infect this society and its cultural institutions. Too many simply ignored the onslaught…”And the most dangerous thing you can do with a driven leftist intellectual clique is ignore it!” Breitbart, “Righteous Indignation,” p. 114.

4. There is a straight line from the Frankfurt School to the formation in many colleges and universities of programs, and departments of African-American Studies, Ethnic Studies, Feminist Studies, Peace Studies, and LGBT (Lesbian/Gay/Bi-sexual/Transgender) Studies.

5. “The Frankfurt School of philosophers emigrated from Nazi Germany and became dyspeptic critics of American culture. Several landed in Southern California where they were disturbed by the consumer culture and the gospel of relentless cheeriness. Depressive by nature, they focused on the disappointments and venality that surrounded them and how unnecessary it all was. It could be paradise, Theodor Adorno complained, but it was only California.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/opinion/17wed4.html


Now, who helped get the Frankfurt School situated in America?


The same man who was a major critic of Senator McCarthy....

America was up for helping scholars fleeing from Germany. The guy in charge of this was Edward R. Murrow, the Emergency Committee in Aid of Displaced Foreign Scholars.

Ed Murrow and Ernie Pyle should have traded places

 

[Mark LaRochelle]

Acheson willfully obstructed aid to Chiang in defiance of the law, and Marshall never knew what was happening.

You build an interesting case, but it does not substantiate Marshall and Truman as tools of Soviet infilitrators.

Are you arguing that Marshall was aware that Acheson was defying the law to obstruct US aid to China? Careful, you're starting to sound like a McCarthyite!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jake, one name.

Name one innocent ruined by McCarthy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bump to help educate the uninformed

 

[koshergrl]

Jake's a lying sack. He trolls threads, then disappears when he's asked to support his ridiculous statements.

He's been doing it for years. Don't give him credence by actually engaging with him, just neg him, point at him, and laugh.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

 

[Pogo]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

 

[Pogo]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

 

[Pogo]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

Yes, all of your posts are like that.

Only you could join a thread about an exhaustively-researched book, produce repeated posts doing nothing but blindly re-asserting the very lies debunked by the book (which you've never bothered to read), and then think YOU are the "informed" one.

Tell us the truth. You have an instruction manual explaining how to be a 100% dumbfuck douchebag in ten easy steps, don't you?

 

[koshergrl]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

Wow you're so like Jake right there. You're busted so you immediately turn around and accuse her of that which she's nailed you on....

 

[Pogo]

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

Yes, all of your posts are like that.

Only you could join a thread about an exhaustively-researched book, produce repeated posts doing nothing but blindly re-asserting the very lies debunked by the book (which you've never bothered to read), and then think YOU are the "informed" one.

Tell us the truth. You have an instruction manual explaining how to be a 100% dumbfuck douchebag in ten easy steps, don't you?

News must travel slow on your planet. We did all this TWO YEARS ago. The only reason it came back up is Frank just bumped it to take the attention off his inability to find quotes and genealogies. Check the frickin' dates.

And I've done my own research long before this, thank you very much.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

Yes, all of your posts are like that.

Only you could join a thread about an exhaustively-researched book, produce repeated posts doing nothing but blindly re-asserting the very lies debunked by the book (which you've never bothered to read), and then think YOU are the "informed" one.

Tell us the truth. You have an instruction manual explaining how to be a 100% dumbfuck douchebag in ten easy steps, don't you?

News must travel slow on your planet. We did all this TWO YEARS ago. The only reason it came back up is Frank just bumped it to take the attention off his inability to find quotes and genealogies. Check the frickin' dates.

And I've done my own research long before this, thank you very much.

Pogo did "research" LOL

did it involve cheekbones?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Ah, yes. "Everyone knows", so we'll have no truck with that whole "truth" nonsense. You lefties established a narrative, and everyone else better by God get on board and believe it!

Unless they want to end up victims of the same thing.

Bizarre post, full of nonreferenced ideas and words, signifying nothing.
Kinda like Joe McCarthy.

Yes, all of your posts are like that.

Only you could join a thread about an exhaustively-researched book, produce repeated posts doing nothing but blindly re-asserting the very lies debunked by the book (which you've never bothered to read), and then think YOU are the "informed" one.

Tell us the truth. You have an instruction manual explaining how to be a 100% dumbfuck douchebag in ten easy steps, don't you?

Mark Rochelle actually visited the thread, with a large paddle, to spank Jake and other Progressives

 

[PoliticalChic]

Update: Number of innocents ruined by McCarthy is still zero

I know one.
"Joe McCarthy".

Oh wait, you did say "innocents". Never mind.

See you on the next revisionist-desperation bump in 2017.

Fascinating how leftists always consider destroying people's lives to be nothing more than "justice" brought on oneself for the unspeakable crime of getting in their way.

Joe McCarthy destroyed himself, even aside from drinking himself to death, and got the ignominious end he deserved. And that's his right to do that. Throw all the pity parties you want but he made his bed and lied in it.

Unlike you, Senator Joseph McCarthy was a true American.
And the public understood that fact.

a. "A June 1950 poll found 45 percent expressed unqualified approval of McCarthy saying "he is anxious to rid us of communists and he is right"; 16 percent expressed qualified approval with remarks such as "there must be some foundation for his charges, but they are greatly exaggerated";31 percent disbelieved McCarthy saying he is "a rabble-rouser seeking personal glory who is trying to get reelected"; 8 percent were unsure what to make of McCarthy."
Cold War International History Conference: Paper by John White


b. "More than a dozen senators told McCarthy that they did not want to vote against him [a censure vote] but had to because of the tremendous pressure being put on them by the White House and by leaders of both political parties."
Ibid.

 

[bodecea]

So how are you guys making out on looking up the Communist spies who ran the US Treasury and State for FDR and spoke so highly of Progressive Mao, the greatest mass murder in human history?

It's pretty quiet, that can only mean Progressives chugged their STFU Juice

Here's the list of people who should have had seats alongside Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

Lauchlin Currie
Solomon Adler
V Frank Coe
Cedric Belfrage
T.A. Bisson
Harold Glasser
David Karr
Mary Jane Keeney
Leonard Mins
Franz Newmann

Lucille Ball?