Birthright Citizenship…Arguments to begin this week at the Supreme Court.

[BluesLegend]

I can have an opinion any time I damn well please. I hope you're just drunk and not really this much of an asshole.

Your unqualified opinion is dismissed.

 

[Unkotare]

Obviously an ILLEGAL anchor baby illegal invasion fan boy.

Again, what the hell are you talking about?

 

[Unkotare]

Your unqualified opinion is dismissed.

You are unwell.

 

[BluesLegend]

I hope you're just drunk and not really this much of an asshole.

You are SERIOUSLY uninformed on the topic of illegals. You flat out ignore all their killings, rapes, assaults and millions of crimes against Americans. Their scams. Their drug trafficking. Their tax fraud. Organized human trafficking. Driving around drunk as F with no license or insurance KILLING and maiming Americans. You defend the right for these assholes to jump our border illegally, then pop out a kid and claim the right to stay. Go look in the mirror, you are the one F'ed up Mr.

 

[Robert W]

excluding babies was one on the things most of the "justices" found absurd in Team Trump's arguments.

Because the constitution excludes babies???

 

[jwoodie]

Wong's parents were subjects of the empire of China which wasn't broached from what I read and couldn't be naturalized.

Just because they couldn't become citizens doesn't mean they we here illegally.

 

[Delldude]

Just because they couldn't become citizens doesn't mean they we here illegally.

Did I say that?

 

[Unkotare]

You are SERIOUSLY uninformed on the topic of illegals. ....

I'm actually much more informed than you, DrunkLegend. Just being irate is not persuasive.

 

[Unkotare]

...You defend the right for these assholes to jump our border illegally, then pop out a kid and claim the right to stay. ...

That's a lie, DrunkLegend. Go sleep it off.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sucks to be Dems, now they are getting a dose of their own medicine.

That's the most sincerely true statement you have made! Good job!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are SERIOUSLY uninformed on the topic of illegals. You flat out ignore all their killings, rapes, assaults and millions of crimes against Americans. Their scams. Their drug trafficking. Their tax fraud. Organized human trafficking. Driving around drunk as F with no license or insurance KILLING and maiming Americans. You defend the right for these assholes to jump our border illegally, then pop out a kid and claim the right to stay. Go look in the mirror, you are the one F'ed up Mr.

Where did he do any of that? You are losing it there, bud!

 

[rightwinger]

You LIE. Nobody is surprised, your lies get called out pretty much daily.

The question of whether undocumented immigrants commit murder at higher rates than native-born Americans is complex and often influenced by political narratives. However, data from Texas—the only state that tracks the immigration status of individuals arrested and convicted of crimes—provides valuable insights.

Homicide Conviction Rates in Texas (2013–2022):

• Undocumented Immigrants: Approximately 2.2 per 100,000
• Legal Immigrants: Approximately 1.2 per 100,000
• Native-Born Americans: Approximately 3.0 per 100,000

This data indicates that undocumented immigrants are about 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide compared to native-born Americans

 

[Couchpotato]

You can't even get the right post! Pathetic!

Post #446

Sure, we do. Diplomats are still breaking the law they are just shielded by diplomatic immunity; however, the US can expel them, or their country can rescind said immunity and that person can then be charged. The idea that diplomats can just go around willy nilly breaking the law without consequence is fucking moronic. The purpose of diplomatic immunity is to shield diplomats from harassment, from the host country or taking them into custody as a negotiating tactic not to place them above the law.

"Your knowledge on this topic is superficial. A diplomat or family member is usually expelled by the host country. We do it all the time to the Russians we suspect of being spies. Lethal Weapon II is a Hollyweird primer, if you're into that hype about diplomatic immunity. I figure that is about your speed."

For fucks sake you don't even know which post you quoted.....

 

[Couchpotato]

The question of whether undocumented immigrants commit murder at higher rates than native-born Americans is complex and often influenced by political narratives. However, data from Texas—the only state that tracks the immigration status of individuals arrested and convicted of crimes—provides valuable insights.

Homicide Conviction Rates in Texas (2013–2022):

• Undocumented Immigrants: Approximately 2.2 per 100,000
• Legal Immigrants: Approximately 1.2 per 100,000
• Native-Born Americans: Approximately 3.0 per 100,000

This data indicates that undocumented immigrants are about 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide compared to native-born Americans

That illegal immigrants commit murder at a lower rate is like saying 50% of the food in my refrigerator is spoiled so I went to the grocery store and bought new food only 30% of which was spoiled. And acting like there's less spoiled food now in your refrigerator.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Post #446

"Your knowledge on this topic is superficial. A diplomat or family member is usually expelled by the host country. We do it all the time to the Russians we suspect of being spies. Lethal Weapon II is a Hollyweird primer, if you're into that hype about diplomatic immunity. I figure that is about your speed."

For fucks sake you don't even know which post you quoted.....

So, what did I say that was incorrect? You can't put the words together to explain. It seems to me that I was agreeing with your superficial understanding.

 

[rightwinger]

That illegal immigrants commit murder at a lower rate is like saying 50% of the food in my refrigerator is spoiled so I went to the grocery store and bought new food only 30% of which was spoiled. And acting like there's less spoiled food now in your refrigerator.

Sorry Skippy

But doesn’t cut it

 

[Couchpotato]

Sorry Skippy

But doesn’t cut it

If all the illegal immigrants were never allowed in would there more or less murders committed?

 

[Delldude]

Everybody getting their shorts in a wad over BRC.......watch them give an opinion on the out of control district courts and punt until the next term.

 

[Nobody911]

The Supreme Court could bring about social unrest or legal uncertainty. I do hope they understand the consequences of their decisions for THE AMERICAN PEOPLES across the country.

The Supreme Court is set to hear arguments regarding President Trump's executive order aiming to end birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are in the country illegally or on temporary visas. This challenges the long-standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil 126.

If the Supreme Court were to rule in favor of the Trump administration, it would represent a fundamental shift in immigration policy and constitutional law. Such a ruling could potentially strip citizenship from hundreds of thousands of individuals born in the U.S. under the current birthright citizenship standard 67.

Regarding the potential consequences:

Civil unrest: There is concern that a ruling ending birthright citizenship could lead to significant social unrest, including protests or even riots in some cities, as affected communities and advocates respond strongly to the loss of citizenship rights for many individuals 7.

Retroactive application: If the ruling were applied retroactively, it could create legal chaos by calling into question the citizenship status of people born in the U.S. over many years. This would raise enormous practical and legal challenges 6.

Deportation and legal lineage proof: A ruling that denies citizenship based on parental status might require identifying and potentially deporting individuals deemed to have "illegal lineage." Proving legal lineage would likely involve documentation of parents' immigration status at the time of birth, which could be difficult or impossible for many families to provide, creating a large population of stateless or undocumented persons 67.

Legal and social implications: The ruling would challenge over a century of legal precedent and congressional statutes affirming birthright citizenship. It could also strain public resources and complicate national immigration policy enforcement 7.

In summary, a Supreme Court decision ending or limiting birthright citizenship would be unprecedented and could lead to widespread legal uncertainty, social unrest, and humanitarian challenges. The exact outcomes would depend on how the ruling is implemented and whether it is applied retroactively, but the potential for significant disruption is high 167.

sources:
1. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5395840/birthright-citizenship-supreme-court
2. https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/birthright-citizenship-cases-arrive-at-the-supreme-court
3. https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/02/a-history-of-birthright-citizenship-at-the-supreme-court/
4. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/s...rthright-citizenship-and-judicial-constraints
5. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases...-trump-birthright-citizenship-executive-order
6. https://www.theusconstitution.org/n...r-oral-arguments-over-birthright-citizenship/
7. https://npg.org/press-releases/pr-05-20-25/
8. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...eme-court-arguments-on-birthright-citizenship
9. https://news.wttw.com/2025/04/22/su...ments-trump-s-plan-end-birthright-citizenship

 

[Delldude]

The Supreme Court could bring about social unrest or legal uncertainty. I do hope they understand the consequences of their decisions for THE AMERICAN PEOPLES across the country.

The Supreme Court is set to hear arguments regarding President Trump's executive order aiming to end birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are in the country illegally or on temporary visas. This challenges the long-standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil 126.

If the Supreme Court were to rule in favor of the Trump administration, it would represent a fundamental shift in immigration policy and constitutional law. Such a ruling could potentially strip citizenship from hundreds of thousands of individuals born in the U.S. under the current birthright citizenship standard 67.

Regarding the potential consequences:

Civil unrest: There is concern that a ruling ending birthright citizenship could lead to significant social unrest, including protests or even riots in some cities, as affected communities and advocates respond strongly to the loss of citizenship rights for many individuals 7.

Retroactive application: If the ruling were applied retroactively, it could create legal chaos by calling into question the citizenship status of people born in the U.S. over many years. This would raise enormous practical and legal challenges 6.

Deportation and legal lineage proof: A ruling that denies citizenship based on parental status might require identifying and potentially deporting individuals deemed to have "illegal lineage." Proving legal lineage would likely involve documentation of parents' immigration status at the time of birth, which could be difficult or impossible for many families to provide, creating a large population of stateless or undocumented persons 67.

Legal and social implications: The ruling would challenge over a century of legal precedent and congressional statutes affirming birthright citizenship. It could also strain public resources and complicate national immigration policy enforcement 7.

In summary, a Supreme Court decision ending or limiting birthright citizenship would be unprecedented and could lead to widespread legal uncertainty, social unrest, and humanitarian challenges. The exact outcomes would depend on how the ruling is implemented and whether it is applied retroactively, but the potential for significant disruption is high 167.

sources:
1. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5395840/birthright-citizenship-supreme-court
2. https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/birthright-citizenship-cases-arrive-at-the-supreme-court
3. https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/02/a-history-of-birthright-citizenship-at-the-supreme-court/
4. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/s...rthright-citizenship-and-judicial-constraints
5. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases...-trump-birthright-citizenship-executive-order
6. https://www.theusconstitution.org/n...r-oral-arguments-over-birthright-citizenship/
7. https://npg.org/press-releases/pr-05-20-25/
8. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...eme-court-arguments-on-birthright-citizenship
9. https://news.wttw.com/2025/04/22/su...ments-trump-s-plan-end-birthright-citizenship

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