Birthright Citizenship…Arguments to begin this week at the Supreme Court.

[Care4all]

Spot-on.

That's the key phrase at-issue here.

SCOTUS has been known to re-interpret aspects of the Constitution, various statutes, and "intent" of the "framers".

For the sake of the Republic and sane border and immigration control, let's hope they eliminate the Anchor Baby interpretation.

Unlikely they will or can.

A constitutional amendment would need to be done, to change it.

I've seen no legal argument made to support what president Trump's side is arguing...that shows the writers of the amendment and senators and congress critters who voted for the amendment and debated it on the respective floors even had a notion of what we consider an illegal alien, today....they were simply " aliens" = "foreigners" vs citizens....AND they were just "aliens" (and not known as "illegal aliens") who bore children here, and their children were birthright citizens...natural born citizens.

The founder's lack of mention of an ILLEGAL alien in this amendment, no doubt in my mind, means the SC has to rule to change its plain meaning, an amendment is needed.

If it could be done well, an amendment would likely get support from both sides, at least with some new restrictions.

But here's the thing....there is no super duper rush, the amendment could take the time needed to pass because as you've seen, Trump has shut down the border, pretty much...so no new pregnant aliens are getting in to add to the problem you are concerned with imo.

 

[Delldude]

Doesn't matter at all. An American naturalized today is every bit as much an American as you (and more than some LOSERS here).

Obviously following naturalization procedures in the 1790 Naturalization Act, wouldn't you think?

 

[Foxfyre]

Why are you so full of shit? Do you have a degree in history, certified to teach social studies and a master's degree in education? If not, STFU, amateur!

You obviously have a liberal's view of the Constitution as a living, breathing document that adapts over time. A true conservative would go by what the documents says, not what you "think" it means.

No I don't have a degree in history but I am a historian. No I do not have education certification but I have enough education to know that a real educator would argue with logic, reason, and facts instead of childish personal insults and is capable of reading what another wrote instead of making up your own interpretation of what the other person said, intended and/or who he/she is.

Have a lovely day.

 

[Delldude]

A constitutional amendment would need to be done, to change it.

Explain why when one wasn't needed from a previous decision.

 

[Rawley]

We have people who are citizens of the United States and citizens of Israel.

Birthright. Focus Ratty.

 

[Rawley]

Unlikely they will or can.

A constitutional amendment would need to be done, to change it.

I've seen no legal argument made to support what president Trump's side is arguing

Yes you have. But you refuse to address it, simply cutting and pasting wiki opinions.

 

[Care4all]

'She' isn't a citizen.

Of course she is...whether born before the revolutionary war on our soil... even before citizenship existed...or after the Revolutionary war, all up to the Civil War, and after the Civil war...

All persons born on our soil, were given citizenship at birth, with only the three/four exceptions mentioned ad nauseam... Foreign Diplomat children etc, warring enemy soldier's children born on land or at sea, and Native American's children, under Tribal govt rule....and lastly, slaves....(the last two changed over time, the first two stuck.)

 

[Delldude]

Of course she is...whether born before the revolutionary war on our soil... even before citizenship existed...or after the Revolutionary war, all up to the Civil War, and after the Civil war...

All persons born on our soil, were given citizenship at birth, with only the three/four exceptions mentioned ad nauseam... Foreign Diplomat children etc, warring enemy soldier's children born on land or at sea, and Native American's children, under Tribal govt rule....and lastly, slaves....(the last two changed over time, the first two stuck.)

You said 'she' which would be the mother who is an illegal alien.

The wording in the 14th was written about slaves.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yes they are?
Can we make them pay income taxes?
Can we make them pay sales taxes?
Can we make them pay property taxes?

If so, they are subject to our jurisdiction.

Remember, diplomats don't pay taxes

Can the parasites vote in our elections and buy/own guns?

 

[postman]

Obviously following naturalization procedures in the 1790 Naturalization Act, wouldn't you think?

I'm not sure about the 1790, but the 1802 immigration act gave the states the power to naturalize aliens, and make them citizens.
It also cut the waiting period from 15 years to 5 years.

 

[Delldude]

I'm not sure about the 1790, but the 1802 immigration act gave the states the power to naturalize aliens, and make them citizens.
It also cut the waiting period from 15 years to 5 years.

It was a mophing of the 1790 and 1798 acts.
States aren't in charge of immigration.......

 

[WEATHER53]

All the illegals pandering schemes are coming to a screeching halt. The paid trolls and multiple screen name fakes will be out of a job. A lot of dishonesty has been permitted
In 6-12 months we won’t even be talking about illegals anymore and lib loons will have moved to transgender schemes.

 

[BrokeLoser]

It's going to be 9-0 in favor of birthright citizenship, so you can stop masturbating to your fantasies of burning cities and jizzing on your face, mm-kay?

Purple hair nose-ringers:
“They’ll never overturn Roe v. Wade.”
I know this because I want it to be so….soooooo bad!

 

[WEATHER53]

What makes you think all babies born today will fall prey to that? As you know, I work with a great many immigrant young people and they tend to be quiet conservative.

If they tend to be conservative then they equally tended to follow the law to arrive here and are not illegal

 

[postman]

And we can deport them too.

Diplomats can't be deported.

We can expel them, but not deport them.
We can declare them persona non grata

When a diplomat is declared persona non grata, it means the host country requests their recall to their home country. If the diplomat doesn't leave within a reasonable time, they may lose their diplomatic status and privileges, including immunity from prosecution.

 

[Unkotare]

Why do you think we have sovereignty over the illegal squirted out in the lettuce field by her illegal mother.

Were YOU "squirted out" or given birth to?

 

[MisterBeale]

By David North on January 16, 2011

Constitution written by Constitutional Convention in 1787, with key figures including James Madison, who is often called the "Father of the Constitution," George Washington, and Alexander Hamilton.


So does the date something is written nullify its relevance after a decade or so, is that your point here?

 

[postman]

If the diplomats home country waives DI, he's going to court.

And if his home country doesn't waive DI. The US can't touch him.
Not even a parking ticket.
We have no jurisdiction over diplomats.

 

[WEATHER53]

Unlikely they will or can.

A constitutional amendment would need to be done, to change it.

I've seen no legal argument made to support what president Trump's side is arguing...that shows the writers of the amendment and senators and congress critters who voted for the amendment and debated it on the respective floors even had a notion of what we consider an illegal alien, today....they were simply " aliens" = "foreigners" vs citizens....AND they were just "aliens" (and not known as "illegal aliens") who bore children here, and their children were birthright citizens...natural born citizens.

The founder's lack of mention of an ILLEGAL alien in this amendment, no doubt in my mind, means the SC has to rule to change its plain meaning, an amendment is needed.

If it could be done well, an amendment would likely get support from both sides, at least with some new restrictions.

But here's the thing....there is no super duper rush, the amendment could take the time needed to pass because as you've seen, Trump has shut down the border, pretty much...so no new pregnant aliens are getting in to add to the problem you are concerned with imo.

When you are not mentioned, you are not covered. You all are running in circles to try and create a claim that “unmentioned” is in fact mentioned. Another lib loon word change attempt to accommodate feelings

 

[Delldude]

And if his home country doesn't waive DI. The US can't touch him.
Not even a parking ticket.
We have no jurisdiction over diplomats.

You couldn't figure that out from what I said?