Bin Laden is DEAD, thread from Hell

[VaYank5150]

Well. We'll see. At this point George HW Bush looked unbeatable too.
And I'll be right there to remind you of your failure when Obama loses amidst 9+% unemployment and double digit inflation rates.

Hey, how is that whole "Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a terrorist sympathizer" meme working for you and your conservative pals right about now?

I dunno. How is that "The U.S has been guilty of arrogance in invading others" and a Nobel Peace prize working for you? I wonder if the Nobel Committee is having second thoughts.

Finally eliminating the #1 terrorist in the world, doesn't classify as advancing peace in your book????

 

[mudwhistle]

First a Birth certificate, now Bin Laden.

Several thoughts:

Demonstrations I feel are way too premature.

The very military that Obama hates was responsible for his greatest triumph.

UBL's location had been well known by the Pakastan military for years it seems.

Obama doesn't hate the military. Why lie?

I have no doubt in my mind that you idiots will soon be claiming that bin laden is living in the Lincoln room at the White House.

Obama hates the military. All true progressives do.

He's not above using them for his purposes.

They claim he gave a kill not capture order. There are also claims they've already got positive DNA evidence. This can't be due to the simple fact that tests take weeks for results.

Oh, I'm glad you didn't call me a racist. I think you're slipping a bit.

 

[California Girl]

All we did by killing Bin Laden was create more terrorists. Well done.

Nah, they were gonna hate us anyway. If we don't do the hard shit because we're scared of 'em, they win.

If we have to spend the next ten years slaughtering thousands of them - so be it. Rather that, than pretend that if we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone. That ain't gonna happen. Where do you want to fight? There or here? Because fight we must.

 

[jgarden]

Now that Obama has seen to it that Obama was not only found, but killed how are you going to continue that NONSENSICAL spin that the Left is soft on terror, that the Left is soft on war?

RWers have been reluctant to complain, but many still have complained about Obama's Drone War. He's been doing a LOT of damage in the ME. And its being sucessful.

Bush told America and the world that he'd go to the gates of Hell to get Osama, but he would step ONE foot across the Pakistani border. LoL!!!

He really wasn't serious...it was all RW bluster. Obama, on the other hand, quietly as kept, made actually getting Osama his No. 1 priority. And look where we're at today...the SOB is dead.

Guess what...Khadaffi is next, and he knows it. He lost his son and grandchildren last night and if he doesn't snap out of it and give up, it will be his A$$. Just like Saddam.

Obama is going to get two of America's greatest adversaries in his 4 years and within a year's time and you RWers can do NOTHING about it.

LOL!!!!

Obama 2012!!!

Anyway...seriously though...how do you people plan on kuntinuing to spin your swill now?

I'm curious to know.

Perhaps"MarcATL" is re-exanining the assumption that RWers think like the rest of us do and their decision to oppose President Obama should be a rational one.

For many "RWers," however, this unrelenting opposition was never based on anything what Obama has ever "said" and "done" - but "who" he is!

They are even willing to embrace and promote far less competent presidential candidates - for no other reason than that they all share the one necessaty attribute that Obama will never possess.

To put it bluntly, "Jim Crow" is alive and well in 21stC America - and is exposed for all to see in many of the threads in this forum!

 

[brokenarrow]

Was it murder? Was he directly threatening those soldiers that killed him?

 

[del]

Rabbi, the point is over your head. The point is not whether or not Clinton had a shot at Bin Laden as being "correct information," the point is that it's useless and SMALL-minded shit to bring up, on a Victorious and Happy day like today.

Useless and small minded? Like Obama taking credit for 10 years of US policy that he opposed?

yup. you and obama are like two peas in a pod.

enjoy!

 

[VaYank5150]

Your fascist punk boy hussein obama gets NO credit in my book.

And I, or the rest of the United States of America should give a shit about you and your book, why?

lol,You speak for the rest of the USA ?liberal scum like you can twist on it!
Iam PROUD to HATE obama!!!!!!!!!!!!******* fascist traitor that he is.

I asked you a question, fuckstick. Hence the "?" following the words. It is sad you are too stupid to know the difference, but speaks volumes about your intellect.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Rabbi, the point is over your head. The point is not whether or not Clinton had a shot at Bin Laden as being "correct information," the point is that it's useless and SMALL-minded shit to bring up, on a Victorious and Happy day like today.

Useless and small minded? Like Obama taking credit for 10 years of US policy that he opposed?

Today is a great day.....

It is sad what some turn it into. I will save my retorts for later. Too much to be celebrated to ruin the day debating with haters

Exactly. I don't care left or right. Spread the news UBL is sleeping with the fishes.

(Which is great news even if it proves me to have been wrong again...... I really did think he was already dead)

 

[jillian]

Just want to get a pulse on the immediate aftermath of what you guys think.

do you want to be called "deathers"? or would you prefer "laddies".

dude's dead. good riddance. the world's a better place today.

 

[jillian]

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In case your wondering, once the process is complete. This is what they plan on Osama Bin Laden to look like.



>>>>

I've met that guy.

me, too.

 

[jillian]

Just want to get a pulse on the immediate aftermath of what you guys think.

Finally....."MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"!!!!

Your fascist punk boy hussein obama gets NO credit in my book.

did they have to surgically remove parts of your brain to make you this stupid? or was it a natural occurrance?

 

[ogibillm]

Useless and small minded? Like Obama taking credit for 10 years of US policy that he opposed?

Today is a great day.....

It is sad what some turn it into. I will save my retorts for later. Too much to be celebrated to ruin the day debating with haters

Exactly. I don't care left or right. Spread the news UBL is sleeping with the fishes.

(Which is great news even if it proves me to have been wrong again...... I really did think he was already dead)

well at least i know i was in good company - i was sure he was dead too. thought the years of running and hiding would have taken their toll on him and he would have died of something like a heart attack or kidney failure or something.

glad that wasn't the case. the knowledge that he was dead wouldn't compare to the knowledge that he had been killed.

 

[brokenarrow]

Agreed. It was not an assassination. Bin Laden declared war on the U.S. and led the campaign to kill thousands of Americans. We finally got him.

And note that assassination is a political act. Taking out Bin Laden is not political; it is a national security action.

An assassination is "to murder (a usually prominent person) by a sudden and/or secret attack, often for political reasons."[1][2] An additional definition is "the act of deliberately killing someone especially a public figure, usually for hire or for political reasons."

Assassinations may be prompted by religious, ideological, political, or military motives. Additionally, assassins may be prompted by financial gain, revenge for perceived grievances, a desire to acquire fame or notoriety (that is, a psychological need to garner personal public recognition), a wish to form some kind of "relationship" with the public figure, a wish or at least willingness to be killed or commit suicide in the attack.

I would define assassination as a deliberate execution of a person regardless if he was threatening anyone to prompt the his killing.

 

[Jack Fate]

Obama had nothing to do with it. The problem is he will ride this pony as long as he can because he needs something to run on. Thanks to the US Military, he now has it. He's lived off other people his entire life. Other people do the dirty work and he takes all the credit.

 

[jillian]

Was it murder? Was he directly threatening those soldiers that killed him?

according to the reports, he took the first shot and used a woman as a shield

did he ask if the people who were killed because of him were a direct threat (or any threat) to him?

screw him. i'm glad he's dead. and idiots trying to make it anything else need help.

 

[del]

Now that the the man is dead the question is moot. But this operation also raises a question that I am sure will be asked in the coming days. Were the operators given instructions to kill on sight or only in response to a threat. In other words, was this an assassination?

I am sure that over the coming days some details of the operations will be released but due to the nature of the operatives and the possible use of these tactics in the future details might be sparse.

And of course Hollywood is already rushing to make a movie.....

Let's see...I try to imagine what I might do if I'd been one of the guys trying to capture Osama.

Would I shoot him down in cold blood?

Probably not.

But I certainly wouldn't take ANY" chances, either.

The slightest threat and I'd start shooting and would not stop until any possible threat was gone.

So would that make me an assassin?

I don't think so.

CApturing Osama wasn't worth even one life (or even one wounding) of the lowest ranking man in uniform.

Now your question has merit, of course.

Did America really want Osama alive as prisoner?

I don't think so.

So let's just say that Osama's death, if not entirely on purpose, was still a fortuitious outcome.

Can you imagine the shitstorm of terror that his incarceration and trial would have caused?

Would a trial have been worth that?

I rather doubt it.

What if a live bin Laden confirmed that 9-11 was done to remove US forces from the Mexican border and was financed by Latin Americans?

what if superman was a nazi?

fuckwit

 

[tigerbob]

Was it an assassination? No. It was justice.

I think it was both.

 

[boedicca]

Agreed. It was not an assassination. Bin Laden declared war on the U.S. and led the campaign to kill thousands of Americans. We finally got him.

And note that assassination is a political act. Taking out Bin Laden is not political; it is a national security action.

An assassination is "to murder (a usually prominent person) by a sudden and/or secret attack, often for political reasons."[1][2] An additional definition is "the act of deliberately killing someone especially a public figure, usually for hire or for political reasons."

Assassinations may be prompted by religious, ideological, political, or military motives. Additionally, assassins may be prompted by financial gain, revenge for perceived grievances, a desire to acquire fame or notoriety (that is, a psychological need to garner personal public recognition), a wish to form some kind of "relationship" with the public figure, a wish or at least willingness to be killed or commit suicide in the attack.

I would define assassination as a deliberate execution of a person regardless if he was threatening anyone to prompt the his killing.

Spin it however you want. He declared war, we brought it to him.

I call it an act of war. If you want to make it political, do so. Perhaps you can find an ACLU attorney to sue the U.S.

 

[Cuyo]

Was it an assassination? No. It was justice.

Can't it be both?

It wasn't an assassination.

Well the way you phrased your reply seemed to suggest they were mutually exclusive... But by what definition do you say it wasn't an assassination? Does the suggestion that it was or wasn't an assassination make it more or less just? Not imo. It seemed to be carried out in assassination fashion to me; But I don't know that defining it one way or the other is relevant.

 

[bodecea]

I never credit any politician - left or right - for work that other people have done. I thank those who are actually responsible for doing it. That's just the way I roll. I couldn't give a shit whether it's Bush, Obama or anyone else. Credit goes where it is due. That is rarely to a politician. They do jack shit other than get in the way and make life more difficult for those who actually do the job.

Obama is the CinC, not just a politician, He deserves credit.

Really?

How many years did he serve in uniform, and in what branch? Marines? Army? USAF? Navy? Which?

He's just a politician. Commander in Chief is a title he has not earned by experience. That's fine, many others haven't either. But... all he did was take advice and say 'go'. He did nothing more.

The President is ALWAYS the CinC, CA Girl. One of the things to be PROUD of in our country that our military is controlled by civilians...not the other way around like in Military Juntas.