Bill de Blasio Reveals That He Wants To Steal From You Using Socialism

[BWK]

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

you have no facts, only gossip. you need a superior argument not simple bigotry.

I have absolute facts and a superior argument which wrecked your delusional claims.

And you know this is true

This is what low taxes on the wealthy have done for forty years and counting; vulture chart - Google Search It's given us flat wages and a raise of 270% for the 1%. Show us where your facts paint a different picture.

You keep posting the same horse shit Bernie Sanders propaganda.

It is nothing more than childish bigotry and hatred or the successful for being successful.

Wahes are fine and healthy does everyone

The figures I posted came from the Centers for Tax Policy. If you can't counter those figures, then I just proved you wrong. There is nothing childish or hateful about it. They are simple facts. Do you have a counter rebuttal?

Not an official source you fool

As worthless as Breitbart and I already countered your crap with facts and arguments which you can only respond to with lies.

From what post?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

I have absolute facts and a superior argument which wrecked your delusional claims.

And you know this is true

This is what low taxes on the wealthy have done for forty years and counting; vulture chart - Google Search It's given us flat wages and a raise of 270% for the 1%. Show us where your facts paint a different picture.

You keep posting the same horse shit Bernie Sanders propaganda.

It is nothing more than childish bigotry and hatred or the successful for being successful.

Wahes are fine and healthy does everyone

The figures I posted came from the Centers for Tax Policy. If you can't counter those figures, then I just proved you wrong. There is nothing childish or hateful about it. They are simple facts. Do you have a counter rebuttal?

Not an official source you fool

As worthless as Breitbart and I already countered your crap with facts and arguments which you can only respond to with lies.

From what post?

All of them

 

[fncceo]

a general tax on employers.

As employers are already taxed, I'm assuming you mean an additional tax.

So, you tax an employer, here are his options:

1. Hire fewer employees ... putting more people on unemployment benefits
2. Raise the price of his goods or services ... making the minimum wage / unemployment benefits worth less
3. Keep the existing number of employees and paying them less ... meaning his best employees will leave and the quality of his goods and services (for which he now has to charge more) will decrease.
4. Go out of business
5. Take the hit and explain to his existing or potential investors (including the banks which give him operating credit) that their investment will now have less return than before and hope they will be understanding -- given that most investors have employees of their own, this reduction in ROI will only compound the same issues into a cascade effect.

In the mean time, we're paying people to stay home and watch reality TV because there are fewer jobs in the free market.

What's wrong with the employer making less by being taxed more?

The employer won't make less, he will pass on that cost by reducing the cost of doing business by hiring fewer workers or by passing the cost of doing business on to the consumer, raising inflation.

Neither higher unemployment nor higher inflation are a benefit to the unemployed.

 

[danielpalos]

You don't know what you are talking about like usual, right winger. Nobody takes y'all seriously about economics. Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy. Only the right wing would complain about solving simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of compensation for being unemployed.

You are more right wing than I am and yes I do.

You are massively ignorant and delusional here.

Once again there is no natural rate of unemployment

Redistribution and entitlements for doing nothing does nothing for our economy and never has.

It only increases dependency and creates welfare queens.

Once again. We have solved poverty through capitalism your idiotic ideas would only bring it back

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment that socialism can easily solve for in a market friendly manner with existing infrastructure in our Republic.

The right wing has a problem with it Because the Poor may benefit.

Wrong.
There is no natural rate of unemployment no matter how many times you prove your ignorance by saying there is

There is no market friendly form of socialism

Socialism increases poverty world wide which is why intelligent people oppose it

you merely appeal to ignorance of economics.

solving for simple poverty must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

No I am explaining reality to you because you are massively ignorant of economics.

Solving for poverty involves nothing more than getting out of people's way.

They will see it themselves and socialism never has a positive multiplier effect.

1929 proves you wrong. And, providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

most, of not all is already being collected via less efficient means. we could be lowering costs via a general tax on employers.

Yes and the result is an unworkable economic mess.

Your stupid and ignorant ideas would only make the problem worse.

anybody can gossip. i merely gainsay your contention since you have no economic argument.

Wrong I stated facts you stated delusion

you have no facts, only gossip. you need a superior argument not simple bigotry.

I have absolute facts and a superior argument which wrecked your delusional claims.

And you know this is true

only in right wing fantasy, are you always right.

 

[Soupnazi630]

You are more right wing than I am and yes I do.

You are massively ignorant and delusional here.

Once again there is no natural rate of unemployment

Redistribution and entitlements for doing nothing does nothing for our economy and never has.

It only increases dependency and creates welfare queens.

Once again. We have solved poverty through capitalism your idiotic ideas would only bring it back

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment that socialism can easily solve for in a market friendly manner with existing infrastructure in our Republic.

The right wing has a problem with it Because the Poor may benefit.

Wrong.
There is no natural rate of unemployment no matter how many times you prove your ignorance by saying there is

There is no market friendly form of socialism

Socialism increases poverty world wide which is why intelligent people oppose it

you merely appeal to ignorance of economics.

solving for simple poverty must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

No I am explaining reality to you because you are massively ignorant of economics.

Solving for poverty involves nothing more than getting out of people's way.

They will see it themselves and socialism never has a positive multiplier effect.

1929 proves you wrong. And, providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

No it does not actually it proves me right.

And the preamble it not law

 

[danielpalos]

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics; propaganda and rhetoric is all they know.

Being able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is as market friendly as it gets. We could have solved simple poverty Yesterday; but, the Poor may benefit.

And there's your favorite fallacy on display. You still haven't shown where you're going to get the additional trillions you'll need every year.

people with recourse to an income can pay taxes. the costs can be recovered.

Sounds like you really do believe you can fill a swimming pool by pumping water from the deep end to the shallow end.

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

only the right wing is that dumb.

Social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize employers with Cheap labor in our First World economy.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes and the result is an unworkable economic mess.

Your stupid and ignorant ideas would only make the problem worse.

anybody can gossip. i merely gainsay your contention since you have no economic argument.

Wrong I stated facts you stated delusion

you have no facts, only gossip. you need a superior argument not simple bigotry.

I have absolute facts and a superior argument which wrecked your delusional claims.

And you know this is true

only in right wing fantasy, are you always right.

No not always just this time and you are more right wing than I am


You know this is correct and you know I proved you wrong.

This causes the knee jerk reaction you have of calling anyone a right winger when they present better arguments and demonstrate your ignorance.

 

[Soupnazi630]

And there's your favorite fallacy on display. You still haven't shown where you're going to get the additional trillions you'll need every year.

people with recourse to an income can pay taxes. the costs can be recovered.

Sounds like you really do believe you can fill a swimming pool by pumping water from the deep end to the shallow end.

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

only the right wing is that dumb.

Social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize employers with Cheap labor in our First World economy.

Social services cost enormous amount beyond your false claim and only encourages depwndency

 

[there4eyeM]

Certainly, something does need to be done regarding public assistance subsidizing minimum wages.

 

[danielpalos]

a general tax on employers.

As employers are already taxed, I'm assuming you mean an additional tax.

So, you tax an employer, here are his options:

1. Hire fewer employees ... putting more people on unemployment benefits
2. Raise the price of his goods or services ... making the minimum wage / unemployment benefits worth less
3. Keep the existing number of employees and paying them less ... meaning his best employees will leave and the quality of his goods and services (for which he now has to charge more) will decrease.
4. Go out of business
5. Take the hit and explain to his existing or potential investors (including the banks which give him operating credit) that their investment will now have less return than before and hope they will be understanding -- given that most investors have employees of their own, this reduction in ROI will only compound the same issues into a cascade effect.

In the mean time, we're paying people to stay home and watch reality TV because there are fewer jobs in the free market.

What's wrong with the employer making less by being taxed more?

The employer won't make less, he will pass on that cost by reducing the cost of doing business by hiring fewer workers or by passing the cost of doing business on to the consumer, raising inflation.

Neither higher unemployment nor higher inflation are a benefit to the unemployed.

Compensation for simply being unemployed is a benefit to the unemployed, and our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment that socialism can easily solve for in a market friendly manner with existing infrastructure in our Republic.

The right wing has a problem with it Because the Poor may benefit.

Wrong.
There is no natural rate of unemployment no matter how many times you prove your ignorance by saying there is

There is no market friendly form of socialism

Socialism increases poverty world wide which is why intelligent people oppose it

you merely appeal to ignorance of economics.

solving for simple poverty must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

No I am explaining reality to you because you are massively ignorant of economics.

Solving for poverty involves nothing more than getting out of people's way.

They will see it themselves and socialism never has a positive multiplier effect.

1929 proves you wrong. And, providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

No it does not actually it proves me right.

And the preamble it not law

nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics or Constitutional law.

 

[danielpalos]

people with recourse to an income can pay taxes. the costs can be recovered.

Sounds like you really do believe you can fill a swimming pool by pumping water from the deep end to the shallow end.

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

only the right wing is that dumb.

Social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize employers with Cheap labor in our First World economy.

Social services cost enormous amount beyond your false claim and only encourages dependency

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployed merely for the bottom line; it only encourages cronyism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

a general tax on employers.

As employers are already taxed, I'm assuming you mean an additional tax.

So, you tax an employer, here are his options:

1. Hire fewer employees ... putting more people on unemployment benefits
2. Raise the price of his goods or services ... making the minimum wage / unemployment benefits worth less
3. Keep the existing number of employees and paying them less ... meaning his best employees will leave and the quality of his goods and services (for which he now has to charge more) will decrease.
4. Go out of business
5. Take the hit and explain to his existing or potential investors (including the banks which give him operating credit) that their investment will now have less return than before and hope they will be understanding -- given that most investors have employees of their own, this reduction in ROI will only compound the same issues into a cascade effect.

In the mean time, we're paying people to stay home and watch reality TV because there are fewer jobs in the free market.

What's wrong with the employer making less by being taxed more?

The employer won't make less, he will pass on that cost by reducing the cost of doing business by hiring fewer workers or by passing the cost of doing business on to the consumer, raising inflation.

Neither higher unemployment nor higher inflation are a benefit to the unemployed.

Compensation for simply being unemployed is a benefit to the unemployed, and our economy.

Wrong it only slows down the economy and makes people lazy and dependent which we know

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
There is no natural rate of unemployment no matter how many times you prove your ignorance by saying there is

There is no market friendly form of socialism

Socialism increases poverty world wide which is why intelligent people oppose it

you merely appeal to ignorance of economics.

solving for simple poverty must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

No I am explaining reality to you because you are massively ignorant of economics.

Solving for poverty involves nothing more than getting out of people's way.

They will see it themselves and socialism never has a positive multiplier effect.

1929 proves you wrong. And, providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

No it does not actually it proves me right.

And the preamble it not law

nobody t weakes the right wing seriously about economics or Constitutional law.

And they take you even less serious since you have shown massive ignorance.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Sounds like you really do believe you can fill a swimming pool by pumping water from the deep end to the shallow end.

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

only the right wing is that dumb.

Social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize employers with Cheap labor in our First World economy.

Social services cost enormous amount beyond your false claim and only encourages dependency

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployed merely for the bottom line; it only encourages cronyism.

It has no such natural rate of unemployment which is simply a made up delusional claim.

 

[sparky]

Mayor De Blah Blah ....

 

[danielpalos]

a general tax on employers.

As employers are already taxed, I'm assuming you mean an additional tax.

So, you tax an employer, here are his options:

1. Hire fewer employees ... putting more people on unemployment benefits
2. Raise the price of his goods or services ... making the minimum wage / unemployment benefits worth less
3. Keep the existing number of employees and paying them less ... meaning his best employees will leave and the quality of his goods and services (for which he now has to charge more) will decrease.
4. Go out of business
5. Take the hit and explain to his existing or potential investors (including the banks which give him operating credit) that their investment will now have less return than before and hope they will be understanding -- given that most investors have employees of their own, this reduction in ROI will only compound the same issues into a cascade effect.

In the mean time, we're paying people to stay home and watch reality TV because there are fewer jobs in the free market.

What's wrong with the employer making less by being taxed more?

The employer won't make less, he will pass on that cost by reducing the cost of doing business by hiring fewer workers or by passing the cost of doing business on to the consumer, raising inflation.

Neither higher unemployment nor higher inflation are a benefit to the unemployed.

Compensation for simply being unemployed is a benefit to the unemployed, and our economy.

Wrong it only slows down the economy and makes people lazy and dependent which we know

maybe in right wing fantasy. employment is at-will not for right wing morality.

 

[danielpalos]

you merely appeal to ignorance of economics.

solving for simple poverty must engender a positive multiplier effect upon our economy.

No I am explaining reality to you because you are massively ignorant of economics.

Solving for poverty involves nothing more than getting out of people's way.

They will see it themselves and socialism never has a positive multiplier effect.

1929 proves you wrong. And, providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

No it does not actually it proves me right.

And the preamble it not law

nobody t weakes the right wing seriously about economics or Constitutional law.

And they take you even less serious since you have shown massive ignorance.

what ignorance is that, Right Winger? you have nothing but bigotry, not any facts. and, this is Not one of your, twice a day moments.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. Only the Right Wing, never gets it.

We are discussing the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage.

Only the right wing has a capital problem with the rock bottom cost of a form of Minimum wage.

Wrong.
Anyone with average intelligence opposes minimum wage

only the right wing is that dumb.

Social services cost the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize employers with Cheap labor in our First World economy.

Social services cost enormous amount beyond your false claim and only encourages dependency

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployed merely for the bottom line; it only encourages cronyism.

It has no such natural rate of unemployment which is simply a made up delusional claim.

Anybody who knows Anything about economics understands that concept and does not appeal to ignorance of it to try to refute anything.