Bill Clinton in Hot Tub with Mystery Woman / Epstein files

 
So Trump didn’t say that about Miss Teen USA. He said it about Miss USA

Yes he is a creep

And then there are five TEENS from the Miss USA Pageant who said he DID do that whether he bragged about it on the radio or not

Yes

He’s a sexual creep
 
No there are not - no first hand accounts, nor by anyone else - see AI. aka no proof.

E.g. the Pilates letters send to Tiberius (Jesus trial) are written by another person - so no first hand account!!!
but factually a forgery.

And factual history is NOT based on a single word/story source and "sold" as a "historic account" - but several independent sources based onto several stories, and material/archeological proof, e.g. Egyptian papyrus texts, that are found as well on a granite Steele or sarcophagus - become "proof" towards a factual historic account.

That is why the words of the "Jewish" bible have no historic relevance - since no other historical accounts from e.g the Egyptians, Hittites, Philistines, Assyrians, etc. ever mentioned a state of Israel, nor a King David nor a King Solomon presiding over a State called Israel - even the rulers names and buildings are in dispute.

Only the OT, written/composed entirely by Jews/Hebrews, and constantly "amended" through centuries mentions/claims all this.

Tacitus records that the Roman populace during Nero, called "them" Chrestiani, a term associated with a "mischievous superstition" or "deadly superstition" - it is this Latin description term that around 200 B.C. led to the term Christian. However Chrestiani has nothing to do with "Christ" thus becoming Christian. But simply an invention by the later Roman Catholic Church.

But anyway - wrong thread - and wouldn't make sense to discuss such a topic with a "believer".
Already answered. "First hand" is your arbitrary construct. After that, we are forced to decide if we trust the conveyors of this first hand account. Was it really a first hand account or did somebody just claim it was? Then there are the translators. the political officials, the church officials. Such items would pass through dozens of hands to reach us 2000 years later, each with the possibility of altering or dilution. That's why it's silly to assign such importance to an alleged first-hand account. In the end, you have to choose to believe or not what somebody said somebody said somebody said.
 
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What we know is that 25 women have accused Trump of either sexual assault or rape, and that he owes several million to a woman as judged by the court for defaming her after he sexually assaulted her.
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Based on reports and legal proceedings, multiple billionaires have faced consistent, public allegations or formal charges of rape or sexual assault, particularly in the wake of the #MeToo movement and investigations into Jeffrey Epstein’s network. While the exact number of individuals currently under accusation varies.
Investigations related to the #MeToo movement identified over 425 prominent individuals (including, but not limited to, billionaires) accused of sexual misconduct in its first year alone.
 
And then there are five TEENS from the Miss USA Pageant who said he DID do that whether he bragged about it on the radio or not

While there is no evidence that Trump boasted about viewing minors unclothed as this Facebook post claims, five Miss Teen USA 1997 contestants did allege in 2016 that Trump walked into the dressing room as contestants — some as young as 15 years old — were changing.

BuzzFeed News reported that
11 other contestants from the 1997 pageant said they did not remember Trump entering the dressing room, with some expressing doubt that it occurred.

Are you also saying he often is?
According to you and others............. :biggrin:
 
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While there is no evidence that Trump boasted about viewing minors unclothed as this Facebook post claims, five Miss Teen USA 1997 contestants did allege in 2016 that Trump walked into the dressing room as contestants — some as young as 15 years old — were changing.

BuzzFeed News reported that 11 other contestants from the 1997 pageant said they did not remember Trump entering the dressing room, with some expressing doubt that it occurred.


According to you and others............. :biggrin:
Wait… you mean he didn’t perv on ALL of the teens so that’s evidence he didn’t perv on any?

Interesting logic
 
Notice it says 'liable' and not convicted?

That's the lawsuit paid for by one of Epstein's Islander perverts......

Wait… you mean he didn’t perv on ALL of the teens so that’s evidence he didn’t perv on any?

Interesting logic
From your article........... :auiqs.jpg:
 
Notice it says 'liable' and not convicted?

That's the lawsuit paid for by one of Epstein's Islander perverts......


From your article........... :auiqs.jpg:
A jury found him liable

They say he sexually assaulted that woman
 
Never said that. They guy who paid for all the legal representation was a Dem Epstein Islander pervert.

Isn't that interesting?
Not really.

The jury considered the evidence and the defense and found that he sexually assaulted that woman
 
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Dems wanted it. They've got it. Who is the mystery woman? How old is she in the photo? :dunno:


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Lefty: "no proof"
 
The usual answer from the left is "That's just Bill being Bill" Ole slick Willie will never be held accountable even though women should be believed. Unless they are accusing Hillary's husband.
 
Not really.

The jury considered the evidence and the defense and found that he sexually assaulted that woman
Yes really.

Jean Carrolls entire legal representation was bought and paid for by a Dem Epstein Islander pervert.

Very interesting....
 
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