Bill Clinton in Hot Tub with Mystery Woman / Epstein files

[Mashmont]

Trump is not Jesus

There are a number of similarities.

 

[Kruska]

Per AI:
Virtually all scholars and historians of antiquity agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a real historical person who lived in first-century Palestine. While details of his life are debated, his existence is not doubted by mainstream historians, regardless of their religious or non-religious, including atheist or agnostic, backgrounds.

You're welcome.

Not on behalf on the NT accounts - miracles, God's son, etc.

There is just agreement (no proof) that a jobless Jewish Hippy, (aka a lefty/Lib) camped around a lake, and preached against the practices of Jews and their Temple-Cult.

You're welcome.

 

[Mashmont]

Not on behalf on the NT accounts - miracles, God's son, etc.

There is just agreement (no proof) that a jobless Jewish Hippy, (aka a lefty/Lib) camped around a lake, and preached against the practices of Jews and their Temple-Cult.

You're welcome.

I believe you just moved the goal posts. Went from "he didn't exist" to "Well, He wasn't divine".

 

[Delldude]

Convicted

Not in civil court.

 

[Kruska]

I believe you just moved the goal posts. Went from "he didn't exist" to "Well, He wasn't divine".

Not just that:

AI:
there are no surviving, firsthand, "official" Roman court records (like trial transcripts) from the time of Jesus

What happened, was that later Roman writers/historians - around 100 B.C. simply took over stories, taking them personally for real (without proof) propagated by Jews, who later organized in larger groups, and became at around 200 B.C. what is termed Christians.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If only there was proof that Trump was a sexual perv

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Why does your cult need proof when you have innuendo, hypothesis and rumor?






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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Miss USA contestants claim Trump walked in on teen beauty queens changing

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"claim"





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[pknopp]

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"claim"





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Trump bragged that he did just that.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Trump bragged that he did just that.

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Show us.






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[pknopp]

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Show us.






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It's already in a link I posted.

 

[Mashmont]

Not just that:

AI:
there are no surviving, firsthand, "official" Roman court records (like trial transcripts) from the time of Jesus

What happened, was that later Roman writers/historians - around 100 B.C. simply took over stories, taking them personally for real (without proof) propagated by Jews, who later organized in larger groups, and became at around 200 B.C. what is termed Christians.

There are indeed Roman accounts of Jesus. Every ancient account means taking someone at his word by definition. Talking about first hand is silly.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's already in a link I posted.

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Easy enough to say.

You just told me something that you won't prove. That amounts to a lie.

It's okay. We expect it.






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[Delldude]

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Why does your cult need proof when you have innuendo, hypothesis and rumor?






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Looks like someone found a lump of coal in their stocking.

 

[Kruska]

There are indeed Roman accounts of Jesus.

No there are not - no first hand accounts, nor by anyone else - see AI. aka no proof.

E.g. the Pilates letters send to Tiberius (Jesus trial) are written by another person - so no first hand account!!!
but factually a forgery.

Every ancient account means taking someone at his word by definition. Talking about first hand is silly.

And factual history is NOT based on a single word/story source and "sold" as a "historic account" - but several independent sources based onto several stories, and material/archeological proof, e.g. Egyptian papyrus texts, that are found as well on a granite Steele or sarcophagus - become "proof" towards a factual historic account.

That is why the words of the "Jewish" bible have no historic relevance - since no other historical accounts from e.g the Egyptians, Hittites, Philistines, Assyrians, etc. ever mentioned a state of Israel, nor a King David nor a King Solomon presiding over a State called Israel - even the rulers names and buildings are in dispute.

Only the OT, written/composed entirely by Jews/Hebrews, and constantly "amended" through centuries mentions/claims all this.

Tacitus records that the Roman populace during Nero, called "them" Chrestiani, a term associated with a "mischievous superstition" or "deadly superstition" - it is this Latin description term that around 200 B.C. led to the term Christian. However Chrestiani has nothing to do with "Christ" thus becoming Christian. But simply an invention by the later Roman Catholic Church.

But anyway - wrong thread - and wouldn't make sense to discuss such a topic with a "believer".

 

[beagle9]

Trump bragged that he did just that.

If he's not a threat like Virginia Gufrie said, then what's the problem ?? Is it just something you idiots think about, so you figure it will make Trump appear as if he is doing something wrong when instead it is your brain's doing something wrong ???

 

[pknopp]

If he's not a threat like Virginia Gufrie said, then what's the problem ?? Is it just something you idiots think about, so you figure it will make Trump appear as if he is doing something wrong when instead it is your brain's doing something wrong ???

Im condemning what Trump said he did. Odd all of a sudden you have no issue with men in women's dressing room.

 

[Delldude]

Im condemning what Trump said he did. Odd all of a sudden you have no issue with men in women's dressing room.

No, Trump didn’t say this about the Miss Teen USA

President Donald Trump, a former beauty pageant owner, has come under fire for his behavior around contestants. But a po

www.politifact.com

 

[pknopp]

No, Trump didn’t say this about the Miss Teen USA

President Donald Trump, a former beauty pageant owner, has come under fire for his behavior around contestants. But a po

www.politifact.com

Yes, he didnt say 14-16.

 

[Delldude]

Yes, he didnt say 14-16.

There's others that said He never came in unescorted.

 

[pknopp]

There's others that said He never came in unescorted.

And he said he did. Escorted or not is irrelevant.