Bilingual Ed

[Unkotare]

California will bring back bilingual education as Proposition 58 cruises to victory


The passage of prop 58 in CA opens the door for the reintroduction of bilingual ed in the state. The law still requires that students become proficient in English as quickly as possible, but leaves a lot open.

 

[Slade3200]

Good deal

 

[Unkotare]

Good deal

It remains to be seen.

 

[Slade3200]

Good deal

It remains to be seen.

True, ideas and execution are two different things, but surely expanding on language education is an extremely valuable skill set that has tremendous positive impacts on children's lives.

 

[OldLady]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

 

[anotherlife]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

 

[OldLady]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

Why do 90% of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school? I'm glad you had no problems, though.

 

[Anathema]

My parents would never have allowed me to be in a classroom where anything other than English was spoken. Nor would any child of mine be in any educational multilingual situation.

 

[Slade3200]

My parents would never have allowed me to be in a classroom where anything other than English was spoken. Nor would any child of mine be in any educational multilingual situation.

Why? Do you not understand the bennefits or are you just one of those close minded nationalists?

 

[anotherlife]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

Why do 90% of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school? I'm glad you had no problems, though.

Nobody has problems with this, except political trouble makers. The reason for the 90 % is that 90 % of all the ~ 200 countries is a formal colony with hundreds of tribes in them whose languages can't be tracked so they all agree to just continue in the old colonial language for the schools. Then there are even more people, and I am in this category, who are members of some ethnic minority or another, and are actively denied an education in their native languages. The purpose of this is to loot and rob them off of their money, off of their ability to do business, and off of their identities and traditions. Centralized governments that operate popular democracies all realize that they can sell in a new market when they kill off the local language of that market. Check out France.

 

[Unkotare]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

"Cruel"?

 

[Unkotare]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

90%? Link?

 

[anotherlife]

My parents would never have allowed me to be in a classroom where anything other than English was spoken. Nor would any child of mine be in any educational multilingual situation.

They could do with a little Chinese bilinguality for the 21st century, don't you think?

 

[anotherlife]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

90%? Link?

Link blink. You need to purchase a real world interface.

 

[Unkotare]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

90%? Link?

Link blink. You need to purchase a real world interface.

Can you support your claim or not?

 

[OldLady]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

"Cruel"?

I'd be lost. Yes it seems cruel.

 

[Unkotare]

My parents would never have allowed me to be in a classroom where anything other than English was spoken. Nor would any child of mine be in any educational multilingual situation.

They could do with a little Chinese bilinguality for the 21st century, don't you think?

An interesting question...

 

[Anathema]

Why? Do you not understand the bennefits or are you just one of those close minded nationalists?

I see no use for it. I am an American. I have no need to leave the USA. Therefore I find no need to speak any language other than English.

 

[OldLady]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

90 % of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school. I am one of them. Believe me, if it is just a fact of your life, you will do it too, with no problems.

Why do 90% of the world's school children learn everything in a foreign language from the very 1st day in school? I'm glad you had no problems, though.

Nobody has problems with this, except political trouble makers. The reason for the 90 % is that 90 % of all the ~ 200 countries is a formal colony with hundreds of tribes in them whose languages can't be tracked so they all agree to just continue in the old colonial language for the schools. Then there are even more people, and I am in this category, who are members of some ethnic minority or another, and are actively denied an education in their native languages. The purpose of this is to loot and rob them off of their money, off of their ability to do business, and off of their identities and traditions. Centralized governments that operate popular democracies all realize that they can sell in a new market when they kill off the local language of that market. Check out France.

Where did you live?

 

[Unkotare]

I can't imagine trying to learn ANYTHING when the teacher and everyone around me is speaking a foreign language. I just can't. One of my half brothers was adopted from Colombia when he was 6 or so. They offered bilingual ed and my Dad insisted no. Poor kid did somehow make it (my stepmom spoke Spanish so at least at home he got a bit of a break) but I can't imagine what it must have been like. Seems to me the law before was pretty damned cruel.

"Cruel"?

I'd be lost. Yes it seems cruel.

It's certainly not easy, but "cruel"?