BIG!!!! Latest Gruber video will finish off Obamacare

[RKMBrown]

I have to spend over $37,000 per year in premiums, deductibles, and out-of-pockets before this ******* "affordable" care act pays for a single mother ******* band aid.

That doesn't sound credible.

Sure it does. I recently went on the Obama cere website to see what it would cost. One plan I looked at for my wife and I was $1200/month and the deductible was $12000. That's $27000 Before the insurance pays a single dime.

That's why your company has to provide you with insurance where they get a group policy with a much lower premium and deductible. Plus, many companies pay a portion of the premium.

So how is Obamacare making healthcare cheaper?

It's cheap for those on low/no income.

Translation: obamacare is communism/socialism. If you work hard you are punished for it... if you are lazy you are rewarded by the state.

 

[BluesLegend]

Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

Told you so, having an Obamacare plan is like not having any insurance at all for the vast majority of people. Their annual costs won't exceed the deductible, then factor in the premiums on top of out of pocket costs.

Healthy people would be far better off just purchasing a catastrophic health plan like before BUT Obamacare won't let them because Obamatard needs those people to buy a LOT more coverage than they need to fund all his free crap for the poor. Otherwise Obamacare implodes.

People its simple, ACA is just a wealth redistribution scheme, another lying puke liberal tax in disguise.

 

[Zander]

Companies do not have to provide health insurance.

Companies with over 50 employees have to provide health insurance to full-time employees. Companies with 50 employees or fewer can provide health insurance for their employees; and often do to take advantage of group rates.

No they don't.

 

[boedicca]

Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

Told you so, having an Obamacare plan is like not having any insurance at all for the vast majority of people. Their annual costs won't exceed the deductible, then factor in the premiums on top of out of pocket costs.

Healthy people would be far better off just purchasing a catastrophic health plan like before BUT Obamacare won't let them because Obamatard needs those people to buy a LOT more coverage than they need to fund all his free crap for the poor. Otherwise Obamacare implodes.

People its simple, ACA is just a wealth redistribution scheme, another lying puke liberal tax in disguise.

Indeed. ObamaCare is yet another income and wealth transfer scheme from working middle class Americans to The Poor and Idle. Beware of any scheme where The Rich are targeted to "fairness". It's always a Trojan Horse to put working Americans under a Heavier Yoke.

 

[BluesLegend]

Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

Told you so, having an Obamacare plan is like not having any insurance at all for the vast majority of people. Their annual costs won't exceed the deductible, then factor in the premiums on top of out of pocket costs.

Healthy people would be far better off just purchasing a catastrophic health plan like before BUT Obamacare won't let them because Obamatard needs those people to buy a LOT more coverage than they need to fund all his free crap for the poor. Otherwise Obamacare implodes.

People its simple, ACA is just a wealth redistribution scheme, another lying puke liberal tax in disguise.

Indeed. ObamaCare is yet another income and wealth transfer scheme from working middle class Americans to The Poor and Idle. Beware of any scheme where The Rich are targeted to "fairness". It's always a Trojan Horse to put working Americans under a Heavier Yoke.

Great point! Ultimately its the middle class who pay the price. I'm amazed at the imbeciles who honestly think they can somehow punish the rich like the rich will just stand there and take it. lol In one form or another the middle class eventually pays the price.

 

[boedicca]

Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

Told you so, having an Obamacare plan is like not having any insurance at all for the vast majority of people. Their annual costs won't exceed the deductible, then factor in the premiums on top of out of pocket costs.

Healthy people would be far better off just purchasing a catastrophic health plan like before BUT Obamacare won't let them because Obamatard needs those people to buy a LOT more coverage than they need to fund all his free crap for the poor. Otherwise Obamacare implodes.

People its simple, ACA is just a wealth redistribution scheme, another lying puke liberal tax in disguise.

Indeed. ObamaCare is yet another income and wealth transfer scheme from working middle class Americans to The Poor and Idle. Beware of any scheme where The Rich are targeted to "fairness". It's always a Trojan Horse to put working Americans under a Heavier Yoke.

Great point! Ultimately its the middle class who pay the price. I'm amazed at the imbeciles who honestly think they can somehow punish the rich like the rich will just stand there and take it. lol In one form or another the middle class eventually pays the price.

Taxes are pretty much always justified as being a way for The Rich to pay their Fair Share. Look at the original income tax rates. The top rate was 7% for incomes above $11.86M in today's dollars. And today? The AMT aimed at Millionaires now applies to the middle class at 26% (for a married couple with joint income of $175K). The Progs claim that $175K is RICH, but in the major metro areas where the jobs are, that level of income is basic middle class in terms of housing affordability and cost of living.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"
Latest Gruber video will finish off Obamacare " is the silliest thread so far of the weekend."

 

[Zander]

The progressive dream is 100% taxation. Why allow the (stupid) people the ability to make any decisions or have "disposable" income?

 

[Faun]

That doesn't sound credible.

Sure it does. I recently went on the Obama cere website to see what it would cost. One plan I looked at for my wife and I was $1200/month and the deductible was $12000. That's $27000 Before the insurance pays a single dime.

That's why your company has to provide you with insurance where they get a group policy with a much lower premium and deductible. Plus, many companies pay a portion of the premium.

So how is Obamacare making healthcare cheaper?

It's cheap for those on low/no income.

Translation: obamacare is communism/socialism. If you work hard you are punished for it... if you are lazy you are rewarded by the state.

Words have meaning. Communism and Socialism are societies where the people collectively own production. Obamacare is not that.

 

[Faun]

The progressive dream is 100% taxation. Why allow the (stupid) people the ability to make any decisions or have "disposable" income?

And yet, the highest income tax rates occurred under a Republican administration.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Don't ask the far right for consistency and clarity.

If they do that, they lose, and that they know.

 

[Zander]

The progressive dream is 100% taxation. Why allow the (stupid) people the ability to make any decisions or have "disposable" income?

And yet, the highest income tax rates occurred under a Republican administration.

Not true. The highest rate was in 1944- under a Democrat. Here 8217 s the US tax rate on your income for every year since 1913 8211 Quartz

It wasn't until the 1960's that JFK cut tax rates.... he'd be a Republican today.

Liberals invented the "income tax" ....

 

[bripat9643]

Sure it does. I recently went on the Obama cere website to see what it would cost. One plan I looked at for my wife and I was $1200/month and the deductible was $12000. That's $27000 Before the insurance pays a single dime.

That's why your company has to provide you with insurance where they get a group policy with a much lower premium and deductible. Plus, many companies pay a portion of the premium.

So how is Obamacare making healthcare cheaper?

It's cheap for those on low/no income.

Translation: obamacare is communism/socialism. If you work hard you are punished for it... if you are lazy you are rewarded by the state.

Words have meaning. Communism and Socialism are societies where the people collectively own production. Obamacare is not that.

Socialism is where society (the government) controls production. Having some worthless piece of paper called a "title" that confers no authority to determine how the property is used is meaningless. The more government controls the use of private property, the more socialist it is. Obamacare is a big step in that direction. It has partially nationalized the insurance companies.

 

[Siete]

BIG !!!!

NOTHING FINISHES OFF ACA.


LOL.

 

[bripat9643]

Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

Told you so, having an Obamacare plan is like not having any insurance at all for the vast majority of people. Their annual costs won't exceed the deductible, then factor in the premiums on top of out of pocket costs.

Healthy people would be far better off just purchasing a catastrophic health plan like before BUT Obamacare won't let them because Obamatard needs those people to buy a LOT more coverage than they need to fund all his free crap for the poor. Otherwise Obamacare implodes.

People its simple, ACA is just a wealth redistribution scheme, another lying puke liberal tax in disguise.

Yes, and that explains why healthcare costs aren't rising as fast under Obamacare: because no one can afford to go to the doctor anymore.

 

[bripat9643]

Yep, and $823 is a hell of a lot less than $2000 or even $1200. Plus I only have a $2000 deductable, and that's also my maximum total out-of-pocket. The Obamacare plan has a $12000 deductible.

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

BUt Corbra only goes that low because your employer and the government subsidize it.

Wrong. Under COBRA I pay the full cost of the insurance. The only benefit I get is I pay the group rate rather than the rate for a single policy.

 

[bripat9643]

I have to spend over $37,000 per year in premiums, deductibles, and out-of-pockets before this ******* "affordable" care act pays for a single mother ******* band aid.

That doesn't sound credible.

Sure it does. I recently went on the Obama cere website to see what it would cost. One plan I looked at for my wife and I was $1200/month and the deductible was $12000. That's $27000 Before the insurance pays a single dime.

That's why your company has to provide you with insurance where they get a group policy with a much lower premium and deductible. Plus, many companies pay a portion of the premium.

So how is Obamacare making healthcare cheaper?

It's cheap for those on low/no income.

Right, because the rest of us are being shaken down to subsidize their rates. It's welfare, in other words.

 

[Siete]

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

SSSSHHHHHHHHH ... Don't tell anyone, but ....

The ACA is designed for people who don't have any insurance. Something or nothing.

Millions of people who aren't dumb as a rock RW's prefer something.... Keep that quiet.

 

[Zander]

That doesn't sound credible.

Sure it does. I recently went on the Obama cere website to see what it would cost. One plan I looked at for my wife and I was $1200/month and the deductible was $12000. That's $27000 Before the insurance pays a single dime.

That's why your company has to provide you with insurance where they get a group policy with a much lower premium and deductible. Plus, many companies pay a portion of the premium.

So how is Obamacare making healthcare cheaper?

It's cheap for those on low/no income.

Right, because the rest of us are being shaken down to subsidize their rates. It's welfare, in other words.

That was always the goal - more redistribution of wealth.

 

[bripat9643]

Why would anyone prefer Obamacare?

SSSSHHHHHHHHH ... Don't tell anyone, but ....

The ACA is designed for people who don't have any insurance. Something or nothing.

Millions of people who aren't dumb as a rock RW's prefer something.... Keep that quiet.

By anyone, I meant a tax paying citizen, not a tick on the ass of society.

Obama promised all the suckers like you who voted for him that Obamacare would be cheaper than your current insurance. He also promised you could keep your plan if you like and keep your doctor.

In short, nothing Obama said was true, but like the worst kind of sucker, you continue to defend him and his scheme.