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Biden's administration trying to kill off Floridians by cutting monoclonal antibody Treatments

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SORRY BIDEN! DeSantis To Buy Antibodies DIRECT From Manufacturer After Biden Tried Crippling Florida​


Mini-Trump should get a better deal than what GSK is charging the government, $1500 - $2000.
Mini-Trump has a donor invested in it.
 

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Republicans have alternatives.
Take the horse dewormer.

Durvet Ivermectin Paste Equine Dewormer - 3 Pack (New - 3 Pack)​

$93.60
  • 3 0.21-ounce tubes apple-flavored horses dewormer
  • Removes worms and bots from horses with a single dose
  • Safe to use on all horses, including broodmares, breeding stallions, and young foals
Hmmmm...................apple flavor.

That's cheaper than monoclonal antibody treatments.
Eli Lilly has struck a deal with the federal government to provide 300,000 doses of a drug that's designed to keep people infected with COVID-19 out of the hospital. The cost per dose: $1,250.

The federal government plans to distribute the 300,000 doses at no cost, but that doesn't mean treatment will be free.

The Lilly drug, a type of monoclonal antibody, is given by intravenous infusion. Those infusions, typically given in hospitals or standalone clinics, can cost well over $1,000. People with health insurance are often required to pay hundreds of dollars in copayments.
What the Communists are worried about is if Trump doesn't run, DeSantis might. He is their second largest threat, so the worse they can make the covid records in the state of Florida (yes, that includes covid deaths) the better for them.
Chinese communist sloth was noted at the beginning when Fau Chi also stepped back from the epidemiology and got more into the mask-vaccine spotlight. Chinese are laughing in a language we Americans can’t understand, and their responsibility to uncover (the rest of the SARS-CoV-2 population [italics]) that (does not [it.]) infect Homo sapiens has been contemptuously disregarded.
 

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Newest data on Pfizer: down to 77% effectiveness EVEN ON HOSPITALIZATION and losing efficacy by the month.

AND YET

The FDA would not recommend boosters!

Gosh, maybe there's a reason no one could make a vaccine for coronaviruses, such as SARS, in the past. Maybe? They're not safe? They're not effective?
You have little room to bitch, considering that ivermectin physically attaches to the commie virus though Homo sapiens hasn’t had the intelligence to see what it does when flowing through a ventilator attached to a Wuhan lab mouse.
 

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Newest data on Pfizer: down to 77% effectiveness EVEN ON HOSPITALIZATION and losing efficacy by the month.

AND YET

The FDA would not recommend boosters!

Gosh, maybe there's a reason no one could make a vaccine for coronaviruses, such as SARS, in the past. Maybe? They're not safe? They're not effective?
Is 77% not enough? We only expected to get 50%....in order to qualify for FDA approval on a covid vaccine.... the flu vaccine is only 60%, and yes, you have to get a shot once a year for it, because of mutations.... And it only protects at 60% for just 6 months....if the flu was not just seasonal, and did not die off in the summer, people would need two flu shots a year for the 60% protection. Covid is a year round virus, not just seasonal....like the flu.

The BOOSTER SHOT WILL BE GIVEN to those with waning antibodies, (those over 65, those with risk conditions....) Per their doctor's orders is what I heard... So that it won't be Willy nilly.....won't be anyone just walking in.... I'm ok with that...for now.

I got the Moderna, and so far, so good....

What makes you think the same scientific community who create vaccines and anti virals etc, have given you a safe drug with this monoclonal antibody treatment? Why are you supporting this, while not vaccines?

Monoclonal antibodies are antibodies created in a test tube, that fight off covid when you get it infused.... So you don't need your own immune system to attack covud, your body uses these temporary antibodies to fight the virus.... A modern miracle, medical advancement, just like MRNA Vaccines....

BUT, what should be of concern, is that your own body is NOT creating its own natural antibodies to fight off covid, just these cloned test tube antibodies, that dissolve, dissipate....

....so you are not protected from any future infection....not for one month in the future.... You can catch covid again, and get sick again because you didn't use your own developed antibodies and immune system to cure yourself....like with catching covid and letting your own antibodies develop to fight it off.

As with all vaccines...the Covid vaccines trick your immune system, in to thinking you have a mild case of covid, so your own immune system creates your own antibodies to fight covid off....these antibodies against covid, that your body created, gives your body a head start, on fighting off covid, near ever time you may catch it...which for the most part, prevents hospitalization and death...

The vaccinated are 11 times more likely to prevent severe sickness and/or death 7 months from vaccination, than those who are unvaccinated that are catching covid for the first time.

Monoclonal antibodies made in the lab, gives you just two weeks of antibody protection fighting off covid.

So what if you need a booster shot for new variant mutations every 6 months to a year, before they wane?

Plus, when those vaccinated get infected with covid, they may be creating additional antibodies that last longer, without being hospitalized with severe sickness to get their bodies to create them from the real virus infection.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving monoclonal antibodies if you're infected and are at risk of severe infection, without full FDA approval, without knowing the long term side effects....

But, every which way but loose....the vaccine antibodies created are a thousand times better, than the lab created antibodies that give you antibody help for just two weeks max.

One costs $2000 a pop on the open market, the other costs $19.50.
One lasts a week or two, the other 7 months or so.
 
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Is 77% not enough? We only expected to get 50%....in order to qualify for FDA approval on a covid vaccine.... the flu vaccine is only 60%, and yes, you have to get a shot once a year for it, because of mutations.... And it only protects at 60% for just 6 months....if the flu was not just seasonal, and did not die off in the summer, people would need two flu shots a year for the 60% protection. Covid is a year round virus, not just seasonal....like the flu.

The BOOSTER SHOT WILL BE GIVEN to those with waning antibodies, (those over 65, those with risk conditions....) Per their doctor's orders is what I heard... So that it won't be Willy nilly.....won't be anyone just walking in.... I'm ok with that...for now.

I got the Moderna, and so far, so good....

What makes you think the same scientific community who create vaccines and anti virals etc, have given you a safe drug with this monoclonal antibody treatment? Why are you supporting this, while not vaccines?

Monoclonal antibodies are antibodies created in a test tube, that fight off covid when you get it infused.... So you don't need your own immune system to attack covud, your body uses these temporary antibodies to fight the virus.... A modern miracle, medical advancement, just like MRNA Vaccines....

BUT, what should be of concern, is that your own body is NOT creating its own natural antibodies to fight off covid, just these cloned test tube antibodies, that dissolve, dissipate....

....so you are not protected from any future infection....not for one month in the future.... You can catch covid again, and get sick again because you didn't use your own developed antibodies and immune system to cure yourself....like with catching covid and letting your own antibodies develop to fight it off.

As with all vaccines...the Covid vaccines trick your immune system, in to thinking you have a mild case of covid, so your own immune system creates your own antibodies to fight covid off....these antibodies against covid, that your body created, gives your body a head start, on fighting off covid, near ever time you may catch it...which for the most part, prevents hospitalization and death...

The vaccinated are 11 times more likely to prevent severe sickness and/or death 7 months from vaccination, than those who are unvaccinated that are catching covid for the first time.

Monoclonal antibodies made in the lab, gives you just two weeks of antibody protection fighting off covid.

So what if you need a booster shot for new variant mutations every 6 months to a year, before they wane?

Plus, when those vaccinated get infected with covid, they may be creating additional antibodies that last longer, without being hospitalized with severe sickness to get their bodies to create them from the real virus infection.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving monoclonal antibodies if you're infected and are at risk of severe infection, without full FDA approval, without knowing the long term side effects....

But, every which way but loose....the vaccine antibodies created are a thousand times better, than the lab created antibodies that give you antibody help for just two weeks max.

One costs $2000 a pop on the open market, the other costs $19.50.
One lasts a week or two, the other 7 months or so.

Okay, so we agree that the covid vaccines are really like flu vaccines, only MUCH more dangerous with terrible, life impacting side effects that are only now being revealed. Such as myocarditis in young men, and menstrual problems in young women (wait for the stories on miscarriages. That's next).

Great. Like flu shots, get them or don't. But don't mandate them. Because like the flu, this is a very dangerous disease if you are elderly or have co-morbidities. If not, you may choose to take your chances. Your choice, and we all get on with life.

Sounds like a great deal to me. I'm in.
 

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Let's be clear here.

Red states are refusing vaccines...and then demanding an outsized apportionment of monoclonal antibody drugs to treat them when they get sick.

Nope...sorry
 

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Okay, so we agree that the covid vaccines are really like flu vaccines, only MUCH more dangerous with terrible, life impacting side effects that are only now being revealed. Such as myocarditis in young men, and menstrual problems in young women (wait for the stories on miscarriages. That's next).

Great. Like flu shots, get them or don't. But don't mandate them. Because like the flu, this is a very dangerous disease if you are elderly or have co-morbidities. If not, you may choose to take your chances. Your choice, and we all get on with life.

Sounds like a great deal to me. I'm in.

Do you promise not to take up a hospital room if you get it and are really sick, so those with cancer, or kidney disease, or heart troubles, or in a car accident, etc etc etc can get a room in their local hospital?

Do you promise to get a monoclonal antibody treatment, so that you won't take up a hospital bed for weeks with covid, while depriving your neighbors from a hospital bed they need for their chemo treatment, or car accident etc?

I don't really expect that or want that to happen....

But that is the situation you are, ( the you in general meaning) that are unvaccinated and willing to take your chances on not getting sick are putting your whole community in, because the unvaccinated ARE getting sick and hospitalized....even those who have thought, that they were healthy.


Fyi- Menstrual problems and miscarriages is fake news.

Unvaccinated Pregnant women dying during or right after childbirth who have delta covid, is the REAL news.
 

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Let's be clear here.

Red states are refusing vaccines...and then demanding an outsized apportionment of monoclonal antibody drugs to treat them when they get sick.

Nope...sorry

Correct. Why dispense the drug where it's most needed if such places are Republican led? Then you wonder why we don't want your filthy government healthcare in this country. When the Communists are in charge like today, they'd be giving less care to their political foes. No thank you.
 

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Do you promise not to take up a hospital room if you get it and are really sick, so those with cancer, or kidney disease, or heart troubles, or in a car accident, etc etc etc can get a room in their local hospital?

Do you promise to get a monoclonal antibody treatment, so that you won't take up a hospital bed for weeks with covid, while depriving your neighbors from a hospital bed they need for their chemo treatment, or car accident etc?

I don't really expect that or want that to happen....

But that is the situation you are, ( the you in general meaning) that are unvaccinated and willing to take your chances on not getting sick are putting your whole community in, because the unvaccinated ARE getting sick and hospitalized....even those who have thought, that they were healthy.


Fyi- Menstrual problems and miscarriages is fake news.

Unvaccinated Pregnant women dying during or right after childbirth who have delta covid, is the REAL news.

How did we get here? Where reasonable people are saying if you don't do X you cannot be in the hospital?

Okay, people who smoke...no treatment for lung cancer or COPD. People who are obese, same for diabetes, cancer, heart disease. How 'bout that?

You drink too much? Bad liver? No liver disease treatment for you.

Gosh, the hospitals are going to be REALLY empty now.

This article about menstrual problems is from the BBC. Are they "fake news" too?

 

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Correct. Why dispense the drug where it's most needed if such places are Republican led? Then you wonder why we don't want your filthy government healthcare in this country. When the Communists are in charge like today, they'd be giving less care to their political foes. No thank you.
it's "needed" everywhere.

You want to shortchange regions that are being responsible to over supply regions that are not.
 

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It's the supply, more people are using antibodies, those that don't get vaccinated.
Well the left loves abortion and since many of the unvaccinated are blacks.......they are just gonna kill more.....first violent ghettos, next abortion and now this....dems love to have black folk die
 

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IDK, the communist are still insisting on fraudits, hoping their dear leader will magically be installed as president.

Pennsylvania Senate Republicans undertaking a controversial review of last year’s presidential election on Wednesday authorized collecting personal information on every registered voter in the state.

The sweeping subpoena also requests all email and other written communications between the Department of State and elections officials in every Pennsylvania county; all state election directives and guidance to counties; and training materials for poll workers, election judges, and others.

That information, Senate officials said, would then be turned over to a yet-to-be-identified private company, which would carry out the review. The committee’s chair, Republican Sen. Cris Dush of Jefferson County, refused to provide any information about which companies are being vetted for the job.

At least they are not trying to get private text messages of all Republican Congress people without a warrant.
 

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De Santis doesn't need any help killing Floridians, he's doing just fine on his own.

And Democrats don't have to do anything to destroy De Santis or Abbott. They're both doing it to themselves, just like Trump did.

The American people don't want right wing idiology. They want sound governance.

Ron DeSantis signed a law that makes it legal for anti-fa to get in their cars tomorrow and drive right over the Justice for January 6th marchers, and if they die, they die.

Or for police in leftist cities to declare these demonstrations "riots", and violently attack the rioters. We have to protect the businesses and citizens of Florida from these hooligans.

Do you see any riots or lowlifes trying to stop cars in Florida?
 

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Man, if only there were a way for these people to have antibodies themselves without having to get a limited resource?

Like, I don’t know, by getting a vaccine or something?
 

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Jebus, you really believe that garbage? No one is preventing Floridians from certain covid death, but DeSantis and his anti mask anti mitigation Shenanigans and not pushing vaccination....the cloned in a laboratory drug would not be needed AT ALL if these Floridians were VACCINATED in the first place.
I believe what?

Did Joe biden refuse medical treatments for Florida or not?

The fact is he did, period. Nothing to 'believe' here, he is trying to limit supply of a medical treatment in Florida when there is no shortage anywhere else. That is EXACTLY like denying NY medical treatments during the initial outbreak because they were using more than their 'share.' It is flatly insane, medical treatments go to those that are in need of them, EVERY TIME.
The govt isn't stopping the monoclonal antibodies for Florida ....to kill Floridians,

there is not enough to go around for all the states in need.... Florida has used 15 times more of our nations supply than any other state in need using it.... Other states are on fire with covid deaths now.

Florida can go out and buy it, if they need more than their federal allotment.... I believe DeSantis's friend runs one of the companies making the monoclonal antibody therapies....
So, where are the massive shortfalls in other states? Who is being denied treatment because Florida has taken to much?

He is not denying treatments there to kill Floridians, he is doing it as a political attack against DeSantis. If people die in the process, seems the Biden admin does not give a shit.
 

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Do you promise not to take up a hospital room if you get it and are really sick, so those with cancer,
Depends. Is it melanoma? We have preventative measures for that, you probably did not wear enough sunscreen. You do not deserve a hospital bed. You should have taken the 5.99 cure instead. Or lung cancer? If you smoked then nope, you do not deserve one either. You more than likely gave yourself lung cancer.

or kidney disease
Again, depends. Is this a condition that is a result of another? Many people with kidney disease have it because of another problem like liver failure, Heart disease or diabetes. All caused primarily by your own actions.

So, most of these people do not get a bed either, those fuckers caused the damage.
or heart troubles,
MASSIVELY associated with your own actions. This is likely the most preventable killer in the nation along with:
or in a car accident,
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Were they speeding? Were they running a red light?

We need an inquiry first to determine who was at fault, clearly the guy that caused the car accident does not deserve a bed. There are others that did not put themselves in the hospital.

Of course, none of the above is how it works because that would be asinine in the extremes. We do not dole out care based on actions or circumstance, we administer it to anyone that needs it. Nowhere do you have the left calling out to deny care to any of these other instances, some far larger than COVID actually is. Why is that? Why NOW is it suddenly acceptable to deny care when decades have gone by with other things killing MORE and virtually all of it a direct consequence of the actions of those effected?

The fact is that most illnesses and injuries are due to decisions you have made, either in your lifestyle or actions. At no point have we decided that medical care needs to be administered based on you living the way I want you to or not. That is simply evil.
 

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Pop culture political handlers for the president apparently are under the assumption that the elderly are the enemy and most likely to be GOP supporters. Slick Andy of NY offed about 10,000 pesky senior nursing home residents at the stroke of a pen and got away with it so why not insert unvaccinated illegal aliens in Florida senior citizens neighborhoods? Hell, what could happen except good things for the DNC?
 

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Well over 70% of monoclonal antibody drugs have been going to only 7 states....that have the lowest amount of vaccination rates

Sorry,,,but states that have been responsible need that drug too
 

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Well over 70% of monoclonal antibody drugs have been going to only 7 states....that have the lowest amount of vaccination rates

Sorry,,,but states that have been responsible need that drug too
And which ones are in shortfall because of Florida?
 

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