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Biden's administration trying to kill off Floridians by cutting monoclonal antibody Treatments

Ray From Cleveland

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He is not stiffing DeSantis.

What the Communists are worried about is if Trump doesn't run, DeSantis might. He is their second largest threat, so the worse they can make the covid records in the state of Florida (yes, that includes covid deaths) the better for them.
 

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Yeah. Unfortunately the numbers don’t seem to be backing up your argument.

Let’s look at it.

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Less than 10% of those hospitalized for COVID were vaccinated. None of the vaccinated were in ICU or on Ventilators.

It is a question of odds. By getting the vaccine you reduce the odds that you will get COVID. If you do get it then you reduce the Odds that you will need to be hospitalized. If you are hospitalized you reduce the odds for extreme treatment. And you reduce the odds you will die.

A vaccine shot is cheap. Cheaper than a few hours of care in the hospital. And it doesn’t require the use of limited life saving equipment.

I’ve used this analogy before. But it obviously needs to be explained again.

You could die in an auto accident today. Your odds of dying are reduced. Not eliminated if you wear a seat belt. Your odds are further reduced not eliminated, if your car has airbags.

But people still die every day on our roads.

If we used the silly arguments from the CT nuts on auto accidents cars would have seat belts and air bags removed because they are not 100% effective. Body armor would be taken from cops because they don’t work if the cop is shot in the face or with a rifle.
break this down by race would be interesting
 

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Want to kill them? No.

But they don't want anyone anywhere to do anything but "masks and vaccines" that's their platform and they don't want anyone to have other options. They certainly don't want a republican to promote an alternative. They went balls deep in pushing masks and their vaccines and they have to stay committed, even if their are better options out there they don't want to change their agenda.
Hogwash! The NIH and CDC have been pushing monoclonall antibody treatment since before vaccines were readily available. Our Federal govt has been buying it, at about $2000 a dose and sending it to DeSantis and other states.

Tell me, why is the vaccine objectionable and not safe, while you are promoting these lab created antibodies, with only FDA emergency use monoclonal antibodies?

Vaccines are more effective than this cloned lab creation, and only cost $19.50 a pop instead of $2000 a pop....and vaccines make you create your own, natural antibodies and last 8 months longer than these cloned in a lab, temporary antibodies?
 

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No idea what you alluding to but young athletes have acquired serious heart issues from the vaccine. As a result of the vaccine supposedly to immunize "the vulnerable," including young athletes, who are generally immune from the Fauci flu, are getting conditions which end their careers from the vaccine. Not to mention the thousands of others who are crippled or dead from the vaccine. :dunno:
That figures.
So, you believe DeSantis and Carlson, instead of doctors?
Do you know what's in the monoclonal antibody treatment elixir?
Do you know the short/long term effects?
Did you know that monoclonal antibody treatment patients are THE guinea pigs aka 'clinical trials' for the treatment.
Monoclonal antibody treatments haven't been approved by the FDA, only emergency use authorization.
The Trump flu has ended the careers, of millions of people, including millions of people who don't even have one yet.
 
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He's a loon! Put in there by loons. First firing the outstanding and renown, qualified doctor he replaced, and look at Idaho now....dying all over the place, hospitals over filled, no hospital beds left, in the whole state for even a car accident patient!!!! :eek:

The vaccines tickle your immune system to make your own antibodies.

Your own natural antibodies against covid.

Monoclonal antibody therapy, which DeSantis is touting, are antibodies created and cloned, and manufactured in a lab, that only last a week or two...when infused.

The vaccines are 1000 times better.
I keep telling you that the vaccines don't work...and you keep ignoring the facts. The Faux vaccines if they ever really worked....don't count as working till atleast 2 weeks after taking the second dose and then they quickly fade away. Within just 4 months they are already waning and not proving protection...

The antibodies that the Biden administration is trying to keep from Florida and other red states--actually helps patients----and is far more reliable than the faux vaccines.

 

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Hogwash! The NIH and CDC have been pushing monoclonall antibody treatment since before vaccines were readily available. Our Federal govt has been buying it, at about $2000 a dose and sending it to DeSantis and other states.

Tell me, why is the vaccine objectionable and not safe, while you are promoting these lab created antibodies, with only FDA emergency use monoclonal antibodies?

Vaccines are more effective than this cloned lab creation, and only cost $19.50 a pop instead of $2000 a pop....and vaccines make you create your own, natural antibodies and last 8 months longer than these cloned in a lab, temporary antibodies?
What does any of that have to do with intentionally denying treatment to sick people?

They are denying medical treatment for those that need it now without reasonable cause.

This would have been similar to Trump denying federal resources in NY during the initial outbreak. Something that the left actually accused him of doing. Something that never occurred.

And now we have Biden doing exactly that.
 

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What the Communists are worried about is if Trump doesn't run, DeSantis might. He is their second largest threat, so the worse they can make the covid records in the state of Florida (yes, that includes covid deaths) the better for them.

De Santis doesn't need any help killing Floridians, he's doing just fine on his own.

And Democrats don't have to do anything to destroy De Santis or Abbott. They're both doing it to themselves, just like Trump did.

The American people don't want right wing idiology. They want sound governance.

Ron DeSantis signed a law that makes it legal for anti-fa to get in their cars tomorrow and drive right over the Justice for January 6th marchers, and if they die, they die.

Or for police in leftist cities to declare these demonstrations "riots", and violently attack the rioters. We have to protect the businesses and citizens of Florida from these hooligans.

Abbott's abortion ban is an offence to Constitution and to freedom loving Americans everywhere. Snitch nation. $10,000 reward to turn in your neighbours.

He can't keep the lights or the A/C on in Texas, but he can ban drive-in voting and extended hours to make it harder for wage workers to vote. Anybody who wants one can get a gun, and nobody who wants one can get an abortion.

American has truly lost its mind. Government is not about inflicting conservative morality and beliefs on the nation, it's about providing the people and the businesses the tools they need to live, work and thrive. Nothing that either of these governors is doing will help achieve any of these ends.

Keep the damn lights on or nobody can do anything. What good are you if you're not providing people with the things they need to live and thrive? The rest of the stuff conservatives are pushing, are matters of public safety and not "personal freedoms".

Republicans have abdicated their responsibility to provide for the general welfare, because if it's a matter of individual rights they don't have to do anything, and whatever happens is on you. That's the approach Trump took. He'd provide testing and vaccines and the rest was up to the individual states. That approach cost the country 500,000 lives by the time Trump left office, and his approach is still killing 1500 people a day nation wide.
 
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What does any of that have to do with intentionally denying treatment to sick people?

They are denying medical treatment for those that need it now without reasonable cause.

This would have been similar to Trump denying federal resources in NY during the initial outbreak. Something that the left actually accused him of doing. Something that never occurred.

And now we have Biden doing exactly that.
WTF?
So why doesn't mini-Trump order Regeneron himself?
 

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It's political and it's murder.

Any evidence that is actually true?

Right now 11,275 are getting the coronavirus every day. (16th August)
And 6 people died. Although for some reason 1,500 people died on one day on the 13th August and now it's 7 people dying in the 16th.

Every so often they have massive spikes in deaths. Seems their statistics are about as reliable as... who knows?

3,000 people a day were getting it this time last year with 150 deaths per day.

I doubt it's Biden that's killing these people.

Probably their own stupidity.
 

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What does any of that have to do with intentionally denying treatment to sick people?

They are denying medical treatment for those that need it now without reasonable cause.

This would have been similar to Trump denying federal resources in NY during the initial outbreak. Something that the left actually accused him of doing. Something that never occurred.

And now we have Biden doing exactly that.

Are you saying people have a right to health care?
 

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You don't understand--the antibodies are the CURE and the PREVENTION. Once, you have had covid and gotten the antibodies fighting off the virus, you are immune--really immuned unlike the faux vaccine.

So, the next time something like the Black Plague comes along we should just let these epidemics run themselves? Doesn't sound like a plan. Did diseases like Polio or Diphtheria ever show any signs of lessening their spread by letting people get infected?
 

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What the Communists are worried about is if Trump doesn't run, DeSantis might. He is their second largest threat, so the worse they can make the covid records in the state of Florida (yes, that includes covid deaths) the better for them.
IDK, the communist are still insisting on fraudits, hoping their dear leader will magically be installed as president.

Pennsylvania Senate Republicans undertaking a controversial review of last year’s presidential election on Wednesday authorized collecting personal information on every registered voter in the state.

The sweeping subpoena also requests all email and other written communications between the Department of State and elections officials in every Pennsylvania county; all state election directives and guidance to counties; and training materials for poll workers, election judges, and others.

That information, Senate officials said, would then be turned over to a yet-to-be-identified private company, which would carry out the review. The committee’s chair, Republican Sen. Cris Dush of Jefferson County, refused to provide any information about which companies are being vetted for the job.
 

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What does any of that have to do with intentionally denying treatment to sick people?

They are denying medical treatment for those that need it now without reasonable cause.

This would have been similar to Trump denying federal resources in NY during the initial outbreak. Something that the left actually accused him of doing. Something that never occurred.

And now we have Biden doing exactly that.
Jebus, you really believe that garbage? No one is preventing Floridians from certain covid death, but DeSantis and his anti mask anti mitigation Shenanigans and not pushing vaccination....the cloned in a laboratory drug would not be needed AT ALL if these Floridians were VACCINATED in the first place.

The govt isn't stopping the monoclonal antibodies for Florida ....to kill Floridians,

there is not enough to go around for all the states in need.... Florida has used 15 times more of our nations supply than any other state in need using it.... Other states are on fire with covid deaths now.

Florida can go out and buy it, if they need more than their federal allotment.... I believe DeSantis's friend runs one of the companies making the monoclonal antibody therapies....
 

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De Santis doesn't need any help killing Floridians, he's doing just fine on his own.

And Democrats don't have to do anything to destroy De Santis or Abbott. They're both doing it to themselves, just like Trump did.

The American people don't want right wing idiology. They want sound governance.

Ron DeSantis signed a law that makes it legal for anti-fa to get in their cars tomorrow and drive right over the Justice for January 6th marchers, and if they die, they die.

Or for police in leftist cities to declare these demonstrations "riots", and violently attack the rioters. We have to protect the businesses and citizens of Florida from these hooligans.

Abbott's abortion ban is an offence to Constitution and to freedom loving Americans everywhere. Snitch nation. $10,000 reward to turn in your neighbours.

He can't keep the lights or the A/C on in Texas, but he can ban drive-in voting and extended hours to make it harder for wage workers to vote. Anybody who wants one can get a gun, and nobody who wants one can get an abortion.

American has truly lost its mind. Government is not about inflicting conservative morality and beliefs on the nation, it's about providing the people and the businesses the tools they need to live, work and thrive. Nothing that either of these governors is doing will help achieve any of these ends.

Keep the damn lights on or nobody can do anything. What good are you if you're not providing people with the things they need to live and thrive? The rest of the stuff conservatives are pushing, are matters of public safety and not "personal freedoms".

Republicans have abdicated their responsibility to provide for the general welfare, because if it's a matter of individual rights they don't have to do anything, and whatever happens is on you. That's the approach Trump took. He'd provide testing and vaccines and the rest was up to the individual states. That approach cost the country 500,000 lives by the time Trump left office, and his approach is still killing 1500 people a day nation wide.

Stop speaking for Americans and stay in your lane
 

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Jebus, you really believe that garbage? No one is preventing Floridians from certain covid death, but DeSantis and his anti mask anti mitigation Shenanigans and not pushing vaccination....the cloned in a laboratory drug would not be needed AT ALL if these Floridians were VACCINATED in the first place.

The govt isn't stopping the monoclonal antibodies for Florida ....to kill Floridians,

there is not enough to go around for all the states in need.... Florida has used 15 times more of our nations supply than any other state in need using it.... Other states are on fire with covid deaths now.

Florida can go out and buy it, if they need more than their federal allotment.... I believe DeSantis's friend runs one of the companies making the monoclonal antibody therapies....

Masks do not and never did work, with the exception of a professionally fitted N or K95 that you change often and don't touch. Right, like the kids in my elementary school, some of whom are 4. Their masks are super effective and hygienic, yep
 

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I keep telling you that the vaccines don't work...and you keep ignoring the facts. The Faux vaccines if they ever really worked....don't count as working till atleast 2 weeks after taking the second dose and then they quickly fade away. Within just 4 months they are already waning and not proving protection...

The antibodies that the Biden administration is trying to keep from Florida and other red states--actually helps patients----and is far more reliable than the faux vaccines.

The vaccines don't work? HOLY CRAP Turtle!! You are LOST!!!

Just look at hospitalizations and deaths, the mass majority, are ALL the UNVACCINATED.

NOW tell us all again your bull crap that the vaccines don't work at preventing deaths...:cuckoo:


ALSO, why are YOU of all people fine with a cloned in the lab treatment without full FDA approval, with NO KNOWLEDGE of what is even in the monoclonal antibody treatment and drugs used in it,

...OKAY with it, while not okay with the vaccines that let YOU created your OWN natural antibodies against covid, but fine with a shot that manufactured antibodies in a lab???
 
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De Santis doesn't need any help killing Floridians, he's doing just fine on his own.

And Democrats don't have to do anything to destroy De Santis or Abbott. They're both doing it to themselves, just like Trump did.

The American people don't want right wing idiology. They want sound governance.

Ron DeSantis signed a law that makes it legal for anti-fa to get in their cars tomorrow and drive right over the Justice for January 6th marchers, and if they die, they die.

Or for police in leftist cities to declare these demonstrations "riots", and violently attack the rioters. We have to protect the businesses and citizens of Florida from these hooligans.

Abbott's abortion ban is an offence to Constitution and to freedom loving Americans everywhere. Snitch nation. $10,000 reward to turn in your neighbours.

He can't keep the lights or the A/C on in Texas, but he can ban drive-in voting and extended hours to make it harder for wage workers to vote. Anybody who wants one can get a gun, and nobody who wants one can get an abortion.

American has truly lost its mind. Government is not about inflicting conservative morality and beliefs on the nation, it's about providing the people and the businesses the tools they need to live, work and thrive. Nothing that either of these governors is doing will help achieve any of these ends.

Keep the damn lights on or nobody can do anything. What good are you if you're not providing people with the things they need to live and thrive? The rest of the stuff conservatives are pushing, are matters of public safety and not "personal freedoms".

Republicans have abdicated their responsibility to provide for the general welfare, because if it's a matter of individual rights they don't have to do anything, and whatever happens is on you. That's the approach Trump took. He'd provide testing and vaccines and the rest was up to the individual states. That approach cost the country 500,000 lives by the time Trump left office, and his approach is still killing 1500 people a day nation wide.
Yes but for the most part, unlike in Soviet Canada, I could walk in my house and out of my house without having the KGB coming after me. I could care less about Progs concerns. Just reading Prog selfishness about their excessive ways of living being hampered by the mean old men who promote freedoms over nazi security blaming the new Jews. People cruising out of Florida ports are a disgusting part of that.
 

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WTF?
So why doesn't mini-Trump order Regeneron himself?

Here you are.​

SORRY BIDEN! DeSantis To Buy Antibodies DIRECT From Manufacturer After Biden Tried Crippling Florida​


 

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The vaccines don't work? HOLY CRAP Turtle!! You are LOST!!!

Just look at hospitalizations and deaths, the mass majority, are ALL the UNVACCINATED.

NOW tell us all again your bull crap that the vaccines don't work at preventing deaths...:cuckoo:


ALSO, why are YOU of all people fine with a cloned in the lab treatment without full FDA approval, with NO KNOWLEDGE of what is even in the monoclonal antibody treatment and drugs used in it,

OKAY with it, while not okay with the vaccines that let YOU created your OWN natural antibodies against covid, but fine with a shot that manufactured antibodies in a lab???

Newest data on Pfizer: down to 77% effectiveness EVEN ON HOSPITALIZATION and losing efficacy by the month.

AND YET

The FDA would not recommend boosters!

Gosh, maybe there's a reason no one could make a vaccine for coronaviruses, such as SARS, in the past. Maybe? They're not safe? They're not effective?
 

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