Burgermeister
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What the fuck is talking about? He continues to stand with them against it? Senile old doddering idiot.
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The Russians have owned that port since the 1800’s.The nearly landlocked Russians wanted the port desperately and I wonder if we just sat back and let them take it.
Total fantasy. I ignored the rest. The most pressure he faced was from Putin and from his own citizens, who did not intend to elect a leader that would roll back Ukraine's clock 30 years and start its descent back to being a russian puppet state.They were under extreme pressure from the kleptocrats in the Obama administration.
Nonsense. He was never in personal danger. His country convulsed when he tried to steer Ukraine back to being a Soviet Bloc puppet state. Now, it may have eventually reached that state of affairs, but it wasn't there yet, when he fled. And the parliament voted him out of office. Basically, impeached.LOL, “kinda”? The Ukrainian President fled the country because he would had been killed by insurgent thugs.
That's the talking point used by people all over the spectrum to bash Biden: "Biden armed neonazis in Ukraine".All these tales about neo-Nazis in power strongly resemble Russian propaganda of 2014-2015 years. The members of Svoboda party were present in the first Yatseniuk's government, indeed. But afterwards, they lost all seats in the government as well as in the Ukrainian parliament.
A military solution is not the only one always available. We should do what we did do...sanction Russia andI'm not saying that I like how Russia moved into Crimea, but it's not like we would have had much local support had we tried to mount a counteroffensive.
You people live in fantasyland.Joe Biden however is no Trump and he is more amenable to Putin than people would like to
believe
Somewhat better than sucking Putin off like tRump did though, as I'm sure you'll agree.I remember the kenyan lawn jockey telling us he scolded the Russians and told them to "cut it out!!"....
The courage displayed by that dog-eating homo muzzie was awe-inspiring....
Of course you eschew knowledge. Idiots like you choose to remain ignorant.Total fantasy. I ignored the rest.They were under extreme pressure from the kleptocrats in the Obama administration.
I mean, when you’re corrupt kleptocrat, that tends to happen.The Ukrainian President fled the country because he would had been killed by insurgent thugs.
Of course you try to blame Obama.Of course you eschew knowledge
I would agree that the vote had legitimate questions regarding accuracy and intimidation, but even before occupation, there were signs that the majority of people in Crimea didn't trust the Ukrainian government.I was never really sure about how the people in Crimea felt about it. There are lots of ethnic Russians who don't want to live under an autocratic system like Putin's. There was talk it wasn't an honest vote. The nearly landlocked Russians wanted the port desperately and I wonder if we just sat back and let them take it.What exactly can be done in a situation like that? Crimea is predominantly ethnically Russian. Stalin made sure of that a long time ago. By the time that Russia occupied the area, they had already been somewhat autonomous in authority. The majority there already seemed to have more loyalty to Russia than to Ukraine.
It's similar to when we supported Kosovo's bid for independence. Over time, Kosovo became predominantly Albanian. It eventually reached the point that they wanted independence due to their difference in loyalties and culture from the rest of Serbia.
I'm not saying that I like how Russia moved into Crimea, but it's not like we would have had much local support had we tried to mount a counteroffensive.
But it's just a question. I never trust the Russian version of events though.
Perhaps, but I'd be more worried about Biden's dealings with Ukraine. Given what we found out regarding his son, it sounds like he's more likely to be compromised by Ukrainian corruption.A military solution is not the only one always available. We should do what we did do...sanction Russia andI'm not saying that I like how Russia moved into Crimea, but it's not like we would have had much local support had we tried to mount a counteroffensive.
make the land gobbling of Putin hurt and arm Ukraine to discourage further illegal incursions by a real
monster. Joe Biden however is no Trump and he is more amenable to Putin than people would like to
believe and like Joe's latest weak equivocations he intends on doing nothing to make Putin pay.