Beijing warns Taiwan

[ScreamingEagle]

Beijing warns of invasion if Taiwan dares to declare its independence
March 9, 2005

CHINA increased regional tensions yesterday when the annual parliament in Beijing tabled an anti-secessionist Bill that explicitly threatens the invasion of Taiwan if the island declares independence.

Any such move by Taiwan will trigger “non-peaceful means and other necessary measures to protect China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity”, Wang Zhaoguo, a senior legislator, told the National People’s Congress.

The move prompted a furious reaction in Taiwan. “(China) has issued a blank cheque to its military for the use of force against Taiwan,” Chiu Tai-shan, vice-chairman of the policy-making Mainland Affairs Council, said.

While the Bill does not specify which actions may provoke a Chinese invasion, it is seen as a strong display of sabre-rattling. However, Mr Wang, apparently eager to nurture improving relations with the United States, emphasised that peaceful reunification was Beijing’s goal.

President Bush has vowed to protect Taiwan against attack and Washington has watched the passage of the Bill with growing concern.

In another move, Beijing suggested that Australia review its Anzus alliance with the US, under which it could agree to support American action in defence of Taiwan. Alexander Downer, the Australian Foreign Minister, said that there were no plans to modify the alliance.

Mr Wang, who sits on the Communist Party’s 24-member Politburo, told the 3,000 delegates in the Great Hall of the People: “So long as there is a glimmer of hope for peaceful reunification, we will exert our utmost to make it happen rather than give it up. Using non-peaceful means would be our last resort.” In an effort to soothe American concerns, he emphasised that peaceful reunification remained Beijing’s ultimate goal.

China’s Communist Government has always considered invasion an option when it comes to Taiwan, which is a painful thorn in the side of the surging “New China”. Resolving the Taiwan issue is considered one of the “three historic tasks of the Communist Party of China and the country”.

The legislation will sail through the largely ceremonial parliament when voting takes place on Monday, at the end of the ten-day session, which also will approve a big increase in China’s military budget.

Analysts said that “non-peaceful” was a flexible term that could allow for sanctions and blockades, rather than invasion, to force the issue. Diplomats said that there was not a timetable for the law and noted that Wen Jiabao, the Chinese Prime Minister, had emphasised peaceful means to resolve the matter during his address last Saturday.

Beijing has claimed sovereignty over Taiwan since 1949, when the Nationalists retreated to the island as the Communists swept to power.

In Taiwan, President Chen Shui-bian has called the legislation the biggest threat to regional stability. Frank Hsieh, the Prime Minister, said that he supported revising sensitive parts of the Constitution if China legalises the attacking of Taiwan and the inclusion of the island as part of the People’s Republic of China.

Thousands in Taiwan have demonstrated against the Bill. One protester carried a banner that read “No Anschluss”, a reference to the annexation of Austria by the Nazis in 1938.

Dialogue between the old enemies stalled in 1999 and Beijing has pushed Taipei into diplomatic isolation. However, China is Taiwan’s largest trading partner and the island has huge holdings on the mainland, having invested about £44 billion there in the past ten years. About one million Taiwanese live in China.

Arms have proliferated on both sides of the Taiwan Strait in recent years. Beijing has spent huge amounts of money to fortify the 2.5-million-strong People’s Liberation Army and aim rockets across the 100-mile-wide stretch of water that divides the rivals.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1516755,00.html

 

[waltky]

Granny says dey haven't been playin' nice `bout No. Korean nukes either...

China Raising Threat Level Against Taiwan, but Sparing Drastic Actions
January 16, 2017 — China flexed a military muscle and hit at Taiwan’s foreign relations over the past month as warnings against closer ties with the United States, a long-time protector of self-rule on the island that Beijing considers its own. But so far Beijing is keeping more extreme retaliation measures in reserve.

In late December and again last week, a formation including the Liaoning aircraft carrier plied waters around Taiwan, which is 160 kilometers southeast of China. Last month, the African nation Sao Tome and Principe severed two decades of formal relations with Taiwan to recognize China. Last week Nigeria cut informal ties with Taiwan, saying it’s not a country.

Warnings from China

Those moves are meant to warn Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen against growing closer with the United States since her surprise phone call Dec. 2 to U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and in light of her trip to the Americas Jan. 7-14, experts say. The United States sells Taiwan arms and has a law allowing it to help Taiwan defend itself.

Taiwan's "frogmen" Marines perform covert landing drills just a few kilometers from mainland China on the outlying island of Kinmen, Taiwan.​

But China has spared the more salient threats of the past in case Tsai cools toward the United States and seeks talks with Beijing, experts say. “International space was given to Taiwan, quote unquote, and as someone born and brought up in Taiwan we hate to acknowledge that, but space was given to Taiwan on the basis of understanding that there is no tension across Taiwan Straits,” said Joanna Lei, chief executive officer of the Chunghua 21st Century think tank in Taiwan. “Once that tension is increased, then it’s no denial that Taiwan’s international space will be reduced, and that will be something Tsai Ing-wen’s government has to grapple with and has to have a reaction to,” she said.

China sees Taiwan as part of China

China sees Taiwan as part of its territory, despite the island’s self-rule since the 1940s, and insists the two sides eventually unify. It worries that Taiwan’s autonomy will get a boost if Taiwanese leaders deepen relations overseas, especially with the United States. In 1995 and 1996, China fired missiles into the Taiwan Strait in what was seen then as an attempt to discourage Taiwanese from electing an anti-Beijing president. As late as 2005, senior Chinese officials threatened to use force against Taiwan if needed.

People of Taiwan react

But those measures fanned anti-China sentiment in Taiwan, helping to install presidents who vowed to stand up to Beijing. Tsai, in office since May, has frustrated China for her unwillingness to hold talks on grounds that both sides belong to one country. But she has kept her tone toward Beijing polite, avoiding words or actions to upset it. Beijing is expected to avoid more drastic measures, such as buying off a series of Taiwan’s remaining 21 diplomatic allies or testing missiles, but continue with milder threats.

China waiting on Trump

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Beijing Warns Trump: One China 'Not Negotiable'
Jan 15, 2017 - Beijing on Saturday warned the U.S. that the One China policy was non-negotiable, after Donald Trump suggested he could abandon the decades-old diplomatic principle and boost ties with Taiwan.

"It is not up for negotiation," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said in a statement. "There is only one China in the world, Taiwan is an inalienable region of China, and the government of the People's Republic of China is the only legitimate government representing China." Trump has threatened to get tough with what he sees as unfair Chinese trade practices, and suggested that the One China policy could become a bargaining chip. "Everything is under negotiation, including One China," he told the Wall Street Journal in an interview published Friday.

Donald Trump speaks in Las Vegas last October.​

Trump has already irked China by accepting a congratulatory phone call from Taiwan President Tsai Ing-Wen after he won the presidential election, upending decades of diplomatic precedent in which the White House has foregone direct communication with the leader of Taiwan. Beijing considers the island to be a breakaway province to be brought back within its fold, by force if necessary. "We urge the relevant party in the United States to realize the extreme sensitivity of the Taiwan issue and to respect commitments made by previous American governments (and) avoid undermining the healthy and stable development of bilateral relations," Lu Kang added.

Beijing first warned the US president elect on the issue in December, after the billionaire businessman said he did not see why Washington must "be bound by a One China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade." The Asian giant said it could back "forces hostile to the U.S." if Trump followed through with his threats. Trump also defended his controversial call with President Tsai in his interview with the Journal. "We sold them $2 billion of military equipment last year. We can sell them $2 billion of the latest and greatest military equipment but we're not allowed to accept a phone call" he said.

Beijing Warns Trump: One China 'Not Negotiable' | Military.com

 

[waltky]

Granny says if dey don't like it - dey can just stick Chinese noodles up dey's noses...

US law affirms Taiwan as a country: Stanton
Tue, Mar 20, 2018 - TAIWAN TRAVEL ACT: The former AIT director lauded the act’s promotion of higher-level contacts and called for the abolition of the AIT Washington office

The Taiwan Travel Act “atypically recognizes, albeit indirectly, that Taiwan is in fact a ‘country,’” former American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) director William Stanton wrote on Sunday. “It is symbolically significant that [US] President [Donald] Trump has signed the Taiwan Travel Act rather than allowing it to go quietly into effect absent his positive endorsement,” wrote Stanton, a visiting professor at National Taiwan University’s International College. Stanton described Trump’s signing on Friday of the Taiwan Travel Act as a “public signal of affirmation rather than private acquiescence.” However, he also called Trump’s delay in signing the act “worrisome,” because he saw it as “another sign of the vacillation we have already witnessed in [Trump’s] policies toward China and Taiwan.”

Stanton said that during his time as AIT director, he “strongly and often advocated what the Taiwan Travel Act now calls for — expanded high-level visits and contacts” between Taiwan and the US. “All of the restrictions on the conduct of [the US’] ‘non-diplomatic’ relations with Taiwan were only the self-imposed interpretative creations of US government lawyers,” he wrote. “There was no reason why we could not simply change them,” he said, adding that with “quiet support” from Washington, he raised the US flag over the AIT for the first time since 1979, when the US broke formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan. “The Taiwan Travel Act is significant, not only because of the higher level treatment of Taiwan it calls for, but also for its ‘findings,’” Stanton wrote. These findings include “recognition of Taiwan’s ‘momentous transition to democracy,’” and that Taiwan “serves as a ‘beacon of democracy in Asia,’” he said.

Stanton also highlighted the fifth finding stated by the US Congress in the Taiwan Travel Act: “Visits to a country by United States Cabinet members and other high-ranking officials are an indicator of the breadth and depth of ties between the United States and such country.” He said he hopes Taiwan will take advantage of this “endorsement of higher-level contacts.” He said he welcomes the “recent shift in direction of the Trump Administration in dealing with China, and the elevation of advisors in the White House who are more willing to challenge the traditional Kissingerian view that the apparent stability of the overall US bilateral relationship with China always supersedes all individual Chinese policies no matter how harmful they are to US interests.” The Taiwan Travel Act is “an important milestone in the maturation of US policy toward Taiwan and China,” he added. The next logical step for the US administration “should be abolishing the AIT Washington office,” he said. The office “long ago ceased to have any real role in Taiwan’s relations with the United States which require no intermediaries,” he added.

US law affirms Taiwan as a country: Stanton - Taipei Times

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China urges US to ‘correct mistake’ on Taiwan rules
Mon, Mar 19, 2018 - China has called on the US to “correct its mistake” after US President Donald Trump approved new rules allowing top-level US officials to travel to Taiwan to meet with their Taiwanese counterparts.

US representatives can already travel to Taiwan and Taiwanese officials occasionally visit the White House, but meetings are usually low profile to avoid offending China. The Taiwan Travel Act, which Trump signed on Friday following its passage in the US Congress, encourages visits between Taiwanese and US officials “at all levels.” Washington cut formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan in 1979 in favor of Beijing under its “one China” policy, but it maintains trade relations with Taiwan and sells it weapons.

The emblem of the People’s Republic of China is pictured at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing yesterday.[/center[

Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Lu Kang (陸慷) said the act’s clauses, while not legally binding, “severely violate” Beijing’s “one China” principle and send “very wrong signals to the ‘pro-independence’ separatist forces in Taiwan.” “China is strongly opposed to that,” Lu said in a statement issued on Saturday. “We urge the US side to correct its mistake, stop pursuing any official ties with Taiwan or improving its current relations with Taiwan in any substantive way,” he said. In a separate statement, Chinese Ministry of National Defense spokesman Colonel Wu Qian (吳謙) said the act “interferes in China’s internal affairs.”

China urges the US to “stop pursuing any US-Taiwan military ties and stop arms sales to Taiwan, so as to avoid causing serious damage to the bilateral and military relations between China and the US, and to the peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait,” Wu’s statement said. The act describes Taiwan as “a beacon of democracy” in Asia, and states that “Taiwan’s democratic achievements inspire many countries and people in the region.” Trump’s signature, announced late on Friday — when the White House usually tries to bury news — comes amid increasing tensions between Taiwan and China. The new US law also comes amid trade tensions between Washington and Beijing as Trump mulls fresh tariff measures that have raised fears of a tit-for-tat trade war.

China urges US to ‘correct mistake’ on Taiwan rules - Taipei Times​

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[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

The Formosan's have squatters rights with regard to relations with the US. It seems to me that the US has been neglecting that relationship of late...save for one each Donald J. Trump.

 

[TheParser]

IMHO, the People's Republic of China (the mainland) is too wise to invade the Republic of China (Taiwan).

Such an invasion would not only involve the United States, but it would also involve Taiwan getting in some licks that would cause chaos in the coastal areas (Hong Kong, Shanghai, etc.).

Such chaos might actually lead to the overthrow of the Communist regime.

The Communist dictators in Beijing want stability so that they can continue their rule.

 

[Mac-7]

IMHO, the People's Republic of China (the mainland) is too wise to invade the Republic of China (Taiwan).

Such an invasion would not only involve the United States, but it would also involve Taiwan getting in some licks that would cause chaos in the coastal areas (Hong Kong, Shanghai, etc.).

Such chaos might actually lead to the overthrow of the Communist regime.

The Communist dictators in Beijing want stability so that they can continue their rule.

When it comes to predicting china’s next move your guess is as good as most

But there are no sure things

Xi is under so much pressure at home that a patriotic war could rally the public behind him

 

[zaangalewa]

Beijing warns Taiwan​

And I warn Beijing "to warn" (=to threaten) Taiwan. It is first of all unbelievable stupid to do so in the possible rise of a new world war, isn't it Xi Jing Ping? - and this will under all circumstances have bad consequences for China. Never read your own philosophers, Xi Jing Ping?

 

[zaangalewa]

IMHO, the People's Republic of China (the mainland) is too wise to invade the Republic of China (Taiwan).

1½ years ago I thought Putin is a rational man. But now I fear autocrats are never wise.

 

[Bleipriester]

And I warn Beijing "to warn" (=to threaten) Taiwan. It is first of all unbelievable stupid to do so in the possible rise of a new world war, isn't it Xi Jing Ping? - and this will under all circumstances have bad consequences for China. Never read your own philosophers, Xi Jing Ping?

Taiwan has been separated from China by nationalist separatists, who lost the struggle against the communists. The country is still called Republic of China (on Taiwan) and is not even recognized by the US. Once again we see you holding views that contradict your official stances. In times of a western denial of neutrality, people are always threatened to get busted for nothing. Also, I always prefer going to where I want over driving to where they want. You, on the other hand, are completely stripped of an own mind.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Taiwan has been separated from China by nationalist separatists, who lost the struggle against the communists. The country is still called Republic of China (on Taiwan) and is not even recognized by the US. Once again we see you holding views that contradict your official stances. In times of a western denial of neutrality, people are always threatened to get busted for nothing. Also, I always prefer going to where I want over driving to where they want. You, on the other hand, are completely stripped of an own mind.

China will get boycotted worse than BudLight

 

[Bleipriester]

China will get boycotted worse than BudLight

I don´t think so. There are plenty of alternatives to Bud Light but in many cases none to Made in China. There is no work around except for relocating the production means to our countries.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I don´t think so. There are plenty of alternatives to Bud Light but in many cases none to Made in China. There is no work around except for relocating the production means to our countries.

Just watch

 

[zaangalewa]

Taiwan has been separated from China ...

Taiwan never had been a part of China.

 

[zaangalewa]

Taiwan ... is not even recognized by the US.

I am a real German, fake German. For me and my country is Taiwan a totally normal democracy. Our parlamentarians and the parlamentarians of the republic Taiwan have very good relations. The "Parlamentarische Freundeskreis Berlin-Taipeh" (My translation now: Parliamentary Circle of Friends Berlin-Taipei) exists since 1989.

 

[Bleipriester]

Taiwan never had been a part of China.

I am a real German, fake German. For me and my country is Taiwan a totally normal democracy. Our parlamentarians and the parlamentarians of the republic Taiwan have very good relations. The "Parlamentarische Freundeskreis Berlin-Taipeh" (My translation now: Parliamentary Circle of Friends Berlin-Taipei) exists since 1989.

You can´t be this clueless, real German.

Taiwan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Chinese Civil War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[zaangalewa]

You can´t be this clueless, real German. ...

I'm able to be much more clueless than anyone in the world is able ot imagine, Chinese. I had for example not any clue that we are able to send fighters - including all necessarry equipment - into every region of the world within less than 48 hours, although we have no aircraft carriers and our military defense system has to be called "bad".

 

[Bleipriester]

I'm able to be much more clueless than anyone in the world is able ot imagine, Chinese. I had for example not any clue that we are able to send fighters - including all necessarry equipment - into every region of the world within less than 48 hours, although we have no aircraft carriers and our military defense system has to be called "bad".

You just need a plane to do so. You can send the soldiers, but they would be very few and their ongoing supply would be constantly at risk. For example, the Russian airborne forces are just as large as the entire German army. And such methods resulted in the military defeat of the US forces in Vietnam - with over 8000 lost aircraft.
For real, the German military has been cut and neglected since the begin of the 80´s. And now we can see here how the rest of this "military" has been transferred into the Ukraine, including 22 million rounds for firearms:

Military support for Ukraine | Federal Government

War in Ukraine: This list provides an overview of Germany’s lethal and non-lethal military support for Ukraine.

www.bundesregierung.de

They also seem to refuse to oder replacements for donated stuff.

 

[zaangalewa]

You just need a plane to do so. ...

You have plumbum in your unwashen ears - what's perhaps enough plumbum to destroy the whole planet, 24/7-idiot with lifelong anti-wisdom guarantee.

 

[Bleipriester]

You have plumbum in your unwashen ears - what's perhaps enough plumbum to destroy the whole planet, 24/7-idiot with lifelong anti-wisdom guarantee.

That is really a welcome change. Always that stupid nazi loop, it started to make you look like a 24/7-moron.

 

[zaangalewa]

That is really a welcome change. Always that stupid nazi loop, it started to make you look like a 24/7-moron.

You needed a very long time and many different themes to convince me that you are a real Nazi. And suddenly you like to be an honorful man without to show any real change - except that you perfected a new mimicry strategy? No - this I do not see. I'm pretty sure you are still a Nazi - and thousand times more dangerous than the old Nazis.