Be Honest: There is only one real reason to need to carry a gun.

[Missouri_Mike]

Depends if you want to live in a civilised society. The US is the only western country that is clinging to its guns. Why is that? Necessity? Nope. Because they fear? Yep...whether it be their govt or perps...they are scared. However, I honestly believe the main reason is the woodie and stiff nips it gives the respective genders who have their peashooters.

The look in their eyes when they pull the trigger - almost orgasmic. Are exceptions, as stated...

That's some crazy rhetoric, there.

Nope. When I first started on messageboards in 2001, I had my first run in with US 2nd amendment folk. Had discourse for about 6 months. Have hardly spoken about it since, but had my opinions about it pretty much summed up in the above paragraph. Have read and seen nothing since that changes my mind.

So you hold on to stupid forever.

 

[Si modo]

Depends if you want to live in a civilised society. The US is the only western country that is clinging to its guns. Why is that? Necessity? Nope. Because they fear? Yep...whether it be their govt or perps...they are scared. However, I honestly believe the main reason is the woodie and stiff nips it gives the respective genders who have their peashooters.

The look in their eyes when they pull the trigger - almost orgasmic. Are exceptions, as stated...

That's some crazy rhetoric, there.

Nope. When I first started on messageboards in 2001, I had my first run in with US 2nd amendment folk. Had discourse for about 6 months. Have hardly spoken about it since, but had my opinions about it pretty much summed up in the above paragraph. Have read and seen nothing since that changes my mind.

When these kids shoot, they are getting sexually aroused?

That's seriously fucked up thinking.

 

[Oddball]

That's some crazy rhetoric, there.

Of course it is...That's why you don't take him seriously, just sit back and enjoy the LULZ.

And you think you're taken seriously? You would be close to, if not the, biggest hypocrite on this board. And that's saying something...

Izzatso?

At least I'm not so much of a dullard that I can't understand that gubmint is, as a matter of course, a legal monopoly on the proactive use of -deadly if need be- force.

 

[whitehall]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"...FDR. Some people, believe it or not, don't live in the city and some rural areas are hotbeds for rabid animals. Carrying a gun is good insurance. Some women are victims of domestic abuse. Carrying a gun is good insurance against rape and murder. Some people carry large sums of money every day and the police can't be everywhere. Fear is good. Only fools and a-hole bikers ridicule it.

 

[g5000]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

 

[Triton]

Why, because I can despite what some enlightened leftist foreigner says or believes.

 

[Dr Grump]

That's some crazy rhetoric, there.

Nope. When I first started on messageboards in 2001, I had my first run in with US 2nd amendment folk. Had discourse for about 6 months. Have hardly spoken about it since, but had my opinions about it pretty much summed up in the above paragraph. Have read and seen nothing since that changes my mind.

So you hold on to stupid forever.

Oh let's look at your magnificent contributions to this thread:

1) Fear? No. A well thought out action to counter the possibility something may happen, some day, in a situation you wouldn't expect where you need to defend yourself? Absolutely.
Fear is what people that didn't prepare experience as the moment unfolds. Fear is the person that didn't take the time to get a CCW and is now caught in the line of fire from a raving lunatic in a mall. Fear only comes about when you have lulled yourself to sleep in a false security blanket of protection from a police force that is nowhere to be found the moment you need them. Taking as much control of a potential situation as you can and preparing eliminates fear and replaces it with preparedness.

2) We are a land of laws. One of those laws is every citizen has a right to bear arms. You don't seem to like that one but that's your problem to live with. Most of us have no intention of giving that up.
3) Then get to your point. So far nothing you are saying makes sense.
4) Aaaand the mental tank runs dry, the engine sputters and quits. That happens a lot to you lefties.
5) Civilized with the left wing nuts is always tied to the force of the government as long as that power belongs to them. An individual is free to be an individual until he/she goes against the collective. Sometimes demonizing entire groups is used to bring the base together, up to and including mass murder of those groups they don't like. The far left is insanity on a grand scale.

6) Your first two posts from this thread. I stopped looking after these f*cking jewels of intellectual process. 1- I will decide on my computer settings not you. I'm sure that p*sses you off to no end but so be it.
2- Seems you found a place to troll. Trolls don't like competition now? Did you graduate with a doctorate from the troll nobody is a loser we all get participation trophies school?
3- Your inability to read anything not directed to you tells me all I need to know. You post to hear yourself talk not gain information. Try reading all reply's for more perspective.
7) I can see why guns scare you. Three shots and three misses. You don't bring much to the table do you?
8) So you hold on to stupid forever.


The first post is nothing but a gun nut's empty rhetoric trying to play on peoples' fear that the bogey man is out there so you must be armed.

The second is much the same. So much so I can almost hear the Battle Hymn of the Republic, and Old Glory being raised.

The rest are not only trolling, but vacuous to boot. So many words, yet nothing of worth being said....

 

[Dr Grump]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

Do you guys ever get sick of your OTT ramblings about 'freedom' and 'liberty', as if totalitarianism is just around the corner for you guys? What a load of shit. Seriously. Grow the **** up...

 

[Dr Grump]

That's some crazy rhetoric, there.

Nope. When I first started on messageboards in 2001, I had my first run in with US 2nd amendment folk. Had discourse for about 6 months. Have hardly spoken about it since, but had my opinions about it pretty much summed up in the above paragraph. Have read and seen nothing since that changes my mind.

When these kids shoot, they are getting sexually aroused?

That's seriously fucked up thinking.

Nope. They would be in the 1 percent that aren't.

 

[Dr Grump]

Of course it is...That's why you don't take him seriously, just sit back and enjoy the LULZ.

And you think you're taken seriously? You would be close to, if not the, biggest hypocrite on this board. And that's saying something...

Izzatso?

At least I'm not so much of a dullard that I can't understand that gubmint is, as a matter of course, a legal monopoly on the proactive use of -deadly if need be- force.

You're ******* warped in your thinkiing. Seriously...for somebody who hates the govt and authority you certainly have a funny way of showing it...

 

[Si modo]

Nope. When I first started on messageboards in 2001, I had my first run in with US 2nd amendment folk. Had discourse for about 6 months. Have hardly spoken about it since, but had my opinions about it pretty much summed up in the above paragraph. Have read and seen nothing since that changes my mind.

When these kids shoot, they are getting sexually aroused?

That's seriously fucked up thinking.

Nope. They would be in the 1 percent that aren't.

I started handling guns in my youth, as did almost everyone I know. And, a hell of a lot more than 1% of adult gun owners did the same.

I didn't even know what sex was, nor did they.

Still fucked up thinking on your part.

 

[Dr Grump]

Still fucked up thinking on your part.

Maybe I was a bit OTT with that regard. Let's put it this way - most people who I have come in contact with who are pushing that agenda - meet my criteria. BTW, the sex part was a metaphor, not literally, but you knew that, right?

 

[Oddball]

And you think you're taken seriously? You would be close to, if not the, biggest hypocrite on this board. And that's saying something...

Izzatso?

At least I'm not so much of a dullard that I can't understand that gubmint is, as a matter of course, a legal monopoly on the proactive use of -deadly if need be- force.

You're ******* warped in your thinkiing. Seriously...for somebody who hates the govt and authority you certainly have a funny way of showing it...

Your refusal to accept the facts does not make me ******* warped....It makes you willingly obtuse.

 

[Ringel05]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

Do you guys ever get sick of your OTT ramblings about 'freedom' and 'liberty', as if totalitarianism is just around the corner for you guys? What a load of shit. Seriously. Grow the **** up...

Tell ya what, I'll be short and simple with my second reply in this thread. Do you always practice fake dichotomy in all your arguments?

 

[Dr Grump]

Izzatso?

At least I'm not so much of a dullard that I can't understand that gubmint is, as a matter of course, a legal monopoly on the proactive use of -deadly if need be- force.

You're ******* warped in your thinkiing. Seriously...for somebody who hates the govt and authority you certainly have a funny way of showing it...

Your refusal to accept the facts does not make me ******* warped....It makes you willingly obtuse.

What facts have you produced? Seriously? Give me an example of what you are talking about. At the moment you come across as a Chicken Little type with not much to back it up.

Has the govt via its proxies (the police, CIA, FBI, armed forces [name your bogeyman]) used deadly force to reinforce laws? Why yes. In some cases they've had to. In some cases they've fucked up (but a rare occurance).

But as I said, for being such an anti [insert anything here], you have a funny way of showing it. You actual distain of authority is somewhat tempered by your current standing on this board, which I find very hypocritical....

 

[Clementine]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Actually, taking precautions eliminates fear. I think most people would breath much easier knowing they've taken every precaution and are as prepared as possible for the unexpected.

People who live in high crime areas or those who live alone in rural places likely feel safer if they have the means to defend themselves, if need be. Of course, that is the reason for most. Same reason we lock our doors, install smoke detectors and wear seatbelts. Smart people not only strive to reduce the risk in their lives, but also see it necessary to have a back up plan, just in case. You can have the best locks installed and alarm system, but if someone does break in, you need to be able to defend yourself. Or have a panic room. Something.

In countries where guns are banned, the criminals must be happy knowing they can break in with their illegally gotten guns and not worry about encountering a prepared home owner. I doubt a gun-toting rapist or burglar will be stopped by a baseball bat, knife or threat that the police have been called. They know they have time before police arrive.

 

[Dr Grump]

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

Do you guys ever get sick of your OTT ramblings about 'freedom' and 'liberty', as if totalitarianism is just around the corner for you guys? What a load of shit. Seriously. Grow the **** up...

Tell ya what, I'll be short and simple with my second reply in this thread. Do you always practice fake dichotomy in all your arguments?

Tell ya what. How about not answering at all if you're going to be deliberately obtuse? Take up the 'fake' dichotomy with g5000. It borders on tin-foil hat territory....

 

[Oddball]

You're ******* warped in your thinkiing. Seriously...for somebody who hates the govt and authority you certainly have a funny way of showing it...

Your refusal to accept the facts does not make me ******* warped....It makes you willingly obtuse.

What facts have you produced? Seriously? Give me an example of what you are talking about. At the moment you come across as a Chicken Little type with not much to back it up.

Has the govt via its proxies (the police, CIA, FBI, armed forces [name your bogeyman]) used deadly force to reinforce laws? Why yes. In some cases they've had to. In some cases they've fucked up (but a rare occurance).

But as I said, for being such an anti [insert anything here], you have a funny way of showing it. You actual distain of authority is somewhat tempered by your current standing on this board, which I find very hypocritical....

Your labeling me as an anti- [insert anything here] is your simple minded cognitive hallucination....I'm in favor of the greatest amount of individual freedom possible, which necessarily puts me at odds with arrogant, do-gooder, know-it-all nannies like you about 99% of the time....But that doesn't automatically make me the anarchist that intellectually arrested demagogues like to portray people like myself.

My current position with the forum is entirely irrelevant to any of that....But I guess whatever you need to tell yourself of be convinced of your moral piety is just jake.

Grow the **** up.

 

[g5000]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

Do you guys ever get sick of your OTT ramblings about 'freedom' and 'liberty', as if totalitarianism is just around the corner for you guys? What a load of shit. Seriously. Grow the **** up...

I am a grown up. That's why I don't demand the State do something every time a problem is encountered.

 

[Si modo]

FEAR

Seriously. Think about it. If there was no FEAR of being robbed and/or assaulted there is no reason to carry a gun, right?

We buy auto insurance and wear seat belts because we FEAR that at some point in time we may be involved in an accident. (Ok, and in most cases the law requires it and we fear getting a ticket too.)

Hey!! I'm not knocking it. Illinois will soon finally join everyone else in passing a CC law. When we do that I will get one so I can carry it in any areas known for high crime rates. But since I don't FEAR being robbed and/or assaulted in my small hometown I don't feel the need to carry it around.

Now I also realize that there are those who simply want to carry one around like a playtoy. But I suspect that they are simply making up for other "shortcomings".

So if anyone disagrees that FEAR is the primary motivation to carry a gun please explain why it's not.

.

Pretty funny.

The mindset behind this kind of post is one that believes we should all be good little sheep and depend on the totalitarian State for all our security needs. Food security, health security, personal security, job security...

A mindset gripped by the fear of liberty.

Do you guys ever get sick of your OTT ramblings about 'freedom' and 'liberty', as if totalitarianism is just around the corner for you guys? What a load of shit. Seriously. Grow the **** up...

Totalitarianism is not just around the corner BY DESIGN.