Barr: 'Separation Of Church & State' A Socialist Slogan To Eliminate Importance/Influence of Religion

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Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
 
The problem stems from a couple of errors in the definitions of words significant to atheists, and it is very difficult for theists to understand, as well, as the atheists; because the definitions are deeply in bedded in everybody's minds, because the tradition definitions seems so simple and logical and the correct definitions require and understanding of the differences in categorization.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
easyt65 speakum truth.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
The Founders were socialists?
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
easyt65 speakum truth.
Hey, you making fun of me being Native American? :)
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
Why should we take Right Wingers seriously about Religion? All it is, is a Talking point for right wingers to garner Audience participation.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
Why should we take Right Wingers seriously about Religion? All it is, is a Talking point for right wingers to garner Audience participation.
Thank you for the demonstration of how ignorant Socialist libs try to undermine and trample citizen's religious rights / freedoms. Was that one of your usual regurgitated talking points or an original opinion?
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
Why should we take Right Wingers seriously about Religion? All it is, is a Talking point for right wingers to garner Audience participation.
Thank you for the demonstration of how ignorant Socialist libs try to undermine and trample citizen's religious rights / freedoms. Was that one of your usual regurgitated talking points or an original opinion?
Job 34:30 applies; "God said so".
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
Why should we take Right Wingers seriously about Religion? All it is, is a Talking point for right wingers to garner Audience participation.
Thank you for the demonstration of how ignorant Socialist libs try to undermine and trample citizen's religious rights / freedoms. Was that one of your usual regurgitated talking points or an original opinion?
Job 34:30 applies; "God said so".
So it wasn't an original thought. Copy that. Thank you for the source.
 
Guy is a stone cold truth teller. So odd nowadays it catches me off guard at first.

Separation of....not separation from.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
The Founders were socialists?
Nope, but they didn't believe in this bullshit separation argument.....until the 1960s, it wasn't even an issue......hmmmmm......
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

A religious perspective does not mean imposing your religious beliefs on others. That is what the abortion debate is about. There is no scientific evidence of when a fetus becomes a life.

You also seem to think churches are above the law. Read the Bible where Jesus says to give tg Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God. Churches were treated no differently than other businesses. Churches were a major source of the spread of the coronavirus.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

A religious perspective does not mean imposing your religious beliefs on others. That is what the abortion debate is about. There is no scientific evidence of when a fetus becomes a life.

You also seem to think churches are above the law. Read the Bible where Jesus says to give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God. Churches were treated no differently than other businesses. Churches were a major source of the spread of the coronavirus.

Imposing beliefs, you guys have done that for 60 years, that's why you freak out about the court, becasue that's how you did it....IF it was cool with the founders and say pre 1960s, its' not really imposing now is it?

Life starts at conception......because from that point forward the only things you need are the same things that you need to age a year....food, water, oxygen, and time....it's not hard



I know what render unto Caesar means, except he also says if God's law conflicts with man's law, then follow God's law
(Acts 5:29), "We must obey God rather than men"
Romans 13
“Let every soul be subject unto the higher liberty. For there is no liberty but of God: the liberties that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resist the liberty, resist the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the liberty? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

Who is "attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good"? There are many religions in this world. Moreover, non-religious people, these "militant secularists," whomever they might be, have the same rights as "religious" people do. Folks who cry about "religious people" supposedly being mistreated seem to be referring only to people who follow the particular religion that they have chosen for themselves, not a universal right to freedom of religion.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

Who is "attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good"? There are many religions in this world. Moreover, non-religious people, these "militant secularists," whomever they might be, have the same rights as "religious" people do. Folks who cry about "religious people" supposedly being mistreated seem to be referring only to people who follow the particular religion that they have chosen for themselves, not a universal right to freedom of religion.
No thats not it at all.

Why are you banned from singing at church?
Why are you banned from going to church?

But lets get to the crux, why can people pray at school?
Why use holidays, when we are talking about Christmas?

What should happen is people should be able to exercise whatever religious beliefs they have (to an extent, things like human sacrifice would not be allowed...sorry aztecs).
So if I want to put a nativity scene on my desk I should be allowed to. If a Jew wants to put a minora on their desk, that's fine. If Muslims need to pray facing Mecca, I'm down for that.
The free exercise thereof should supersede anything else on religion, it is in the first amendment, separation of church and state is not in the constitution and basically means that the US cannot compel you to join a religion.......that's it...it doesn't mean if you feel left out because of your religion, you get to stop others from practicing theirs.....which is what is happening now.

It’s true that various groups have in the past sued to prevent state or federal governments from erecting religious monuments on public property. In 2001, for example, the ACLU of Southern California sued for removal of the Mojave Desert Cross at Sunrise Rock, which stood on land that had become part of a national preserve run by the National Park Service. That long and tangled legal battle continues and is now before the U.S. Supreme Court. (Update, April 28, 2010: The high court later ruled against the ACLU in that case, allowing the cross to stand. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote: "The goal of avoiding governmental endorsement [of religion] does not require eradication of all religious symbols in the public realm.")
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.
easyt65 speakum truth.
Hey, you making fun of me being Native American? :)
Alright! 1/8 Sioux on this end. For years my family was under the impression we were 1/8 Crow(eastern Montana) mixed with Norwegian & mostly Scottish ancestry. My niece subscribed to ancestry.com?(one of the online sites anyway) & educated the rest of us on just what our makeup REALLY is. Incredibly we turn out to be 48% EASTERN EUROPEAN, 26% Norwegian, 13% Scottish 12.5% Sioux(Dakota side NOT Lakota). only .5% could not be determined so they definitely zeroed our heritage. She told me that the area in eastern Europe where that part of our blood came from is today called Moldova(former eastern Romania?). I could'nt believe it. I mean Moldova could'nt rate a paragaph on the back page of a Nickel Nik monthly publication. I'll tell you easyt65 don't believe family folklore about ones heritage. In my families case we are about as much Scottish Highlander as the freakin' man in the moon is.
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

Who is "attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good"? There are many religions in this world. Moreover, non-religious people, these "militant secularists," whomever they might be, have the same rights as "religious" people do. Folks who cry about "religious people" supposedly being mistreated seem to be referring only to people who follow the particular religion that they have chosen for themselves, not a universal right to freedom of religion.
No thats not it at all.

Why are you banned from singing at church?
Why are you banned from going to church?

But lets get to the crux, why can people pray at school?
Why use holidays, when we are talking about Christmas?

What should happen is people should be able to exercise whatever religious beliefs they have (to an extent, things like human sacrifice would not be allowed...sorry aztecs).
So if I want to put a nativity scene on my desk I should be allowed to. If a Jew wants to put a minora on their desk, that's fine. If Muslims need to pray facing Mecca, I'm down for that.
The free exercise thereof should supersede anything else on religion, it is in the first amendment, separation of church and state is not in the constitution and basically means that the US cannot compel you to join a religion.......that's it...it doesn't mean if you feel left out because of your religion, you get to stop others from practicing theirs.....which is what is happening now.

It’s true that various groups have in the past sued to prevent state or federal governments from erecting religious monuments on public property. In 2001, for example, the ACLU of Southern California sued for removal of the Mojave Desert Cross at Sunrise Rock, which stood on land that had become part of a national preserve run by the National Park Service. That long and tangled legal battle continues and is now before the U.S. Supreme Court. (Update, April 28, 2010: The high court later ruled against the ACLU in that case, allowing the cross to stand. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote: "The goal of avoiding governmental endorsement [of religion] does not require eradication of all religious symbols in the public realm.")

Who banned you from going to church or singing at church? Kids can pray at school as long as adults are not involved and it's not disruptive. This has already been decided. There is nothing wrong with saying "holiday." This is utter nonsense and grandstanding by people who are totally insecure. People don't know what, if anything you are celebrating. Someone you meet casually wouldn't know. Saying "holiday" avoids both confusion and insult.

I disagree with Kennedy. I think that people should come and use public space, and then pack up their stuff and take it with them. Otherwise, people will try and hog it. For instance, I remember a case, can't remember the name, when a town allotted spaces for holiday displays on public land, and held a lottery, because certain faith groups wanted all of the spaces, so the other groups would get none. If we allow permanent symbols, the space would fill up and we would have bickering as to who gets to erect what. Nobody needs to put up anything ostentatious, anyway, and there is plenty of private land on which religious symbols can be displayed.

Moreover, some people who call themselves religious are quite aggressive. If they want to build a new church, let no one try to stop them, but if another congregation wants to build a mosque, these same kooks go running to the zoning board, screaming. Wiccans have been treated badly. There was a case at a military base in Texas of Wiccans who asked for an outdoor worship area on base, and people who were not Wiccan had a tantrum. Same when the military resisted putting the Wiccan symbol on the headstone of a soldier who was killed in action. While you say that "it doesn't mean if you feel left out because of your religion, you get to stop others from practicing theirs," but it has been "religious" people who have been doing just that to people of other religions.

Don't get me started on "religious" people who use their "faith" as a reason to attack others. The attacks on the rights of LGBTs have been nothing short of shameful. They are being attacked because of their sexual orientation, and LGBTs, like all of us, get to choose what religion they wish to follow. It may not be your's.

There seems to be a thing in some religions to assume that everyone they meet or accost follows the same religion, same denomination, same sect as they do. It's an assumption that they shouldn't make, and it's really irritating to be confronted by someone who wants to put you on the spot so they can try and convert you. This sort of thing has arisen at public meetings. There should not be any sort of religious service at public meetings. Anyone who wants to pray first, however they want to do it and whomever they want to pray to, has plenty of time to do so before the meeting starts.

It's fine to practice your religion, but it's another thing to be a pain in the ass to other people just because you want to grandstand.
 
Who banned you from going to church or singing at church?
That would be DEMOCRATS...in the name of COVID-19.

No Church Services.
No DRIVE-UP Church Services.

When lessened / allowed:
- Mandatory 6-foot separation.
- Mandatory Mask Wearing
- No SINGING

The same Democrats who ordered these were the same Democrats keeping their favorite Jewelry stores and Hair Salons open so THEY could still go there, were marching literally shoulder-to-shoulder down the street with thugs/criminals/terrorists, etc....
 
Who is "attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good"? There are many religions in this world. Moreover, non-religious people, these "militant secularists," whomever they might be, have the same rights as "religious" people do. Folks who cry about "religious people" supposedly being mistreated seem to be referring only to people who follow the particular religion that they have chosen for themselves, not a universal right to freedom of religion.

Meanwhile Democrats are already attacking a Judge for being Catholic, and she hasn't even been nominated for the USSC vacancy yet.... :p
 
Finally someone said it...

“Militant secularists have long seized on that slogan as a facile justification for attempting to drive religion from the public square and to exclude religious people from bringing a religious perspective to bear on conversations about the common good,” Barr said during the virtual ceremony that had been postponed since March due to the coronavirus pandemic."

Welcome to Socialism, where parents, religion, and everything people rely on are replaved, where they are eliminated until there is nothing left but government...



Democrats have used COVID-19 as justification to violate American citizen's Constitutional and Civil Rights, perhaps none more so than the Freedom of Religion, the perfect tool to advance the socialist agenda against religion here in the US.

Trumpsters calling Jefferson a socialist. That's pretty much all we need to know, eh?
 
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