BAN AR-15 GUNS

[Auld Phart]

We the people adopted our Constitution in part to 'ensure domestic tranquility '. You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia into the right of any individual to have any weapon, in any place, for any reason! You've turned the whole country into a shooting gallery where no one is safe. When are you going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?....
Gun deaths number one cause of death for children

After the amnesty buy back period there would be no confiscation effort but if someone is caught in possession of any weapon of war they would be criminally charged.

You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia into the right of any individual to have any weapon,

no perversion.

the right was given to the people, not the militia.

 

[LibertyKid]

no perversion.

the right was given to the people, not the militia.

And if this was the case (militias only being armed), we would have historical evidence of this. But history shows otherwise. Our founding fathers were apprehensive of federally backed standing armies, and militias were formed by the states, which were comprised of armed citizens codified within state constitutions and our own Federal constitution.

 

[HeyNorm]

That didn't take very long for you to suspend habeas corpus, Adolph?

Ahhh, when I said they, I meant the anti gunners.

 

[Esdraelon]

Thereafter criminal charges for possession.

An Den? An What? Let them come...

 

[westwall]

When you have 376 cowards in the same location, a sling shot is just as effective

Now, consider the millions of people with AR-15s………..

How many cops you got?

Just the people who own AR-15's in the USA outnumber all of the armies of the world, combined.

When the caca hits the rotary oscillator, I sure don't want to be on the side trying to take them away.

 

[ding]

Ahhh, when I said they, I meant the anti gunners.

My bad. Sorry.

 

[wihosa]

Scalia found an individual right to keep and bear arms in the fact that every adult would be considered a member of the 'citizens militia' in times of war and also for home defense.

If such a militia call up occurred the 2nd Amendment makes clear it shall be "well regulated ". Today we have a professional militia - The National Guard. It is well regulated. There is no call up of the citizens militia. That really leaves home defense as the only legitimate reason according to the Supreme Court. Yes hunting is also legitimate by custom and convention.

As 'constitutional originalists' always say, we must only consider the meaning of words as they were understood at the time of their writing. Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.
Hand guns, shot guns and hunting rifles are common sense modern comparables. Modern high power, semi automatic, high capacity rifles designed for 21st century warfare are not.
The idea that the framers of the Constitution in their desire to in part "Insure domestic Tranquility " would intend the 2nd Amendment to allow one person armed with a weapon with the comparative firepower of a battalion of 18th century soldiers to enter the town square is absurd.

Weapons designed for modern warfare have no place in civil society. AR-15's and the like should be banned for civilian ownership. All citizens can joint the militia and be trained to use the weapons of today. They'll learn that well regulated militias store their arms securely in the armory, not laying around the bunkhouse...

After AR15's are banned, and the generous buyback amnesty period is over anyone found in possession would face criminal charges. No doubt many would keep their weapons but there would be no confiscation effort. The reality is that the military and NG would be the only place they could be used. If you keep yours you couldn't use it, no shooting ranges could allow them, you couldn't buy ammunition for them. If you were caught using one charges would include possession and use. Keeping yours would just become you dangerous hidden illegal secret...

In time as the madness of the gun proliferation period of American life fades into the past and common sense firearms reforms end the daily toll of mass shootings those who have worked so hard to keep gun proliferation profitable will be unable to wipe the blood from their hands.

 

[wihosa]

Just the people who own AR-15's in the USA outnumber all of the armies of the world, combined.

When the caca hits the rotary oscillator, I sure don't want to be on the side trying to take them away.

Do you know anyone who would want to live in the world you appear to eagerly await?

 

[Frankenstein]

I certainly can:
One teenager with an AR15 held 376 police officers at bay for 77 minutes.

Where did he get the weapon

 

[M14 Shooter]

Scalia found an individual right to keep and bear arms in the fact that every adult would be considered a member of the 'citizens militia' in times of war and also for home defense.

That;s not what he said.

If such a militia call up occurred the 2nd Amendment makes clear it shall be "well regulated ". Today we have a professional militia - The National Guard. It is well regulated.

The National Guard is a federal force, not state militia.
it was created under the congressional authority to raise armies, not the power to organize and arm the militia.

There is no call up of the citizens militia. That really leaves home defense as the only legitimate reason according to the Supreme Court. Yes hunting is also legitimate by custom and convention.

False. The USSC said :
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Self defense in the home is but one of the many traditionally lawful purposes for a firearm.

As 'constitutional originalists' always say, we must only consider the meaning of words as they were understood at the time of their writing. Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.

Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.
DC v Heller

The idea that the framers of the Constitution in their desire to in part "Insure domestic Tranquility " would intend the 2nd Amendment to allow one person armed with a weapon with the comparative firepower of a battalion of 18th century soldiers to enter the town square is absurd.

Unsupportable nonsense.

Weapons designed for modern warfare have no place in civil society.

Your opinion does not matter.

AR-15's and the like should be banned for civilian ownership.

"All bearable arms. No"."
- 2nd Amendment

 

[M14 Shooter]

Where did he get the weapon

He legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two days: May 17 — just a day after his birthday — and May 20, the Bureau of Alcohol,

Uvalde gunman legally bought AR rifles days before shooting, law enforcement says

He brought only one of the rifles with him into the elementary school, according to the briefing. The other was left in a truck he crashed nearby.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Auld Phart]

Scalia found an individual right to keep and bear arms in the fact that every adult would be considered a member of the 'citizens militia' in times of war and also for home defense.

If such a militia call up occurred the 2nd Amendment makes clear it shall be "well regulated ". Today we have a professional militia - The National Guard. It is well regulated. There is no call up of the citizens militia. That really leaves home defense as the only legitimate reason according to the Supreme Court. Yes hunting is also legitimate by custom and convention.

As 'constitutional originalists' always say, we must only consider the meaning of words as they were understood at the time of their writing. Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.
Hand guns, shot guns and hunting rifles are common sense modern comparables. Modern high power, semi automatic, high capacity rifles designed for 21st century warfare are not.
The idea that the framers of the Constitution in their desire to in part "Insure domestic Tranquility " would intend the 2nd Amendment to allow one person armed with a weapon with the comparative firepower of a battalion of 18th century soldiers to enter the town square is absurd.

Weapons designed for modern warfare have no place in civil society. AR-15's and the like should be banned for civilian ownership. All citizens can joint the militia and be trained to use the weapons of today. They'll learn that well regulated militias store their arms securely in the armory, not laying around the bunkhouse...

After AR15's are banned, and the generous buyback amnesty period is over anyone found in possession would face criminal charges. No doubt many would keep their weapons but there would be no confiscation effort. The reality is that the military and NG would be the only place they could be used. If you keep yours you couldn't use it, no shooting ranges could allow them, you couldn't buy ammunition for them. If you were caught using one charges would include possession and use. Keeping yours would just become you dangerous hidden illegal secret...

In time as the madness of the gun proliferation period of American life fades into the past and common sense firearms reforms end the daily toll of mass shootings those who have worked so hard to keep gun proliferation profitable will be unable to wipe the blood from their hands.

Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.

Don't know much about firearms, do you?

 

[westwall]

Do you know anyone who would want to live in the world you appear to eagerly await?

No one wants to live in the world you are trying to usher in.

That's why we will keep our guns away from the likes of you.

And, because you are a moron, "well regulated" at the time the Founders used the term, meant "in good working order"

It had nothing to do with laws.

 

[Frankenstein]

He legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two days: May 17 — just a day after his birthday — and May 20, the Bureau of Alcohol,

Uvalde gunman legally bought AR rifles days before shooting, law enforcement says

He brought only one of the rifles with him into the elementary school, according to the briefing. The other was left in a truck he crashed nearby.

www.texastribune.org

Were there red flags ignored in his background check?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

We the people adopted our Constitution in part to 'ensure domestic tranquility '. You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia into the right of any individual to have any weapon, in any place, for any reason! You've turned the whole country into a shooting gallery where no one is safe. When are you going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?....
Gun deaths number one cause of death for children

After the amnesty buy back period there would be no confiscation effort but if someone is caught in possession of any weapon of war they would be criminally charged.

You should read some of the writings from the Founding Fathers they are very clear that the right to bear arms resides with the people. The overwhelming majority of gun deaths in this country are committed by criminals with handguns. You don't even know what a "weapon of war" is moron so I'll ignore that one.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Were there red flags ignored in his background check?

That;s not how background checks work - they search the NICS database for a record of a conviction et al, which, under federal law, makes you a prohibited person.
if not, you pass.

 

[2aguy]

Scalia found an individual right to keep and bear arms in the fact that every adult would be considered a member of the 'citizens militia' in times of war and also for home defense.

If such a militia call up occurred the 2nd Amendment makes clear it shall be "well regulated ". Today we have a professional militia - The National Guard. It is well regulated. There is no call up of the citizens militia. That really leaves home defense as the only legitimate reason according to the Supreme Court. Yes hunting is also legitimate by custom and convention.

As 'constitutional originalists' always say, we must only consider the meaning of words as they were understood at the time of their writing. Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.
Hand guns, shot guns and hunting rifles are common sense modern comparables. Modern high power, semi automatic, high capacity rifles designed for 21st century warfare are not.
The idea that the framers of the Constitution in their desire to in part "Insure domestic Tranquility " would intend the 2nd Amendment to allow one person armed with a weapon with the comparative firepower of a battalion of 18th century soldiers to enter the town square is absurd.

Weapons designed for modern warfare have no place in civil society. AR-15's and the like should be banned for civilian ownership. All citizens can joint the militia and be trained to use the weapons of today. They'll learn that well regulated militias store their arms securely in the armory, not laying around the bunkhouse...

After AR15's are banned, and the generous buyback amnesty period is over anyone found in possession would face criminal charges. No doubt many would keep their weapons but there would be no confiscation effort. The reality is that the military and NG would be the only place they could be used. If you keep yours you couldn't use it, no shooting ranges could allow them, you couldn't buy ammunition for them. If you were caught using one charges would include possession and use. Keeping yours would just become you dangerous hidden illegal secret...

In time as the madness of the gun proliferation period of American life fades into the past and common sense firearms reforms end the daily toll of mass shootings those who have worked so hard to keep gun proliferation profitable will be unable to wipe the blood from their hands.

The idea that if the Founders knew that the governments around the world murdered 200 million innocent men, women and children since 1917, and the Europeans murdered 20 million of them in just 6 years.......fully automatic military rifles would have been required in the Constitution .........

 

[2aguy]

Scalia found an individual right to keep and bear arms in the fact that every adult would be considered a member of the 'citizens militia' in times of war and also for home defense.

If such a militia call up occurred the 2nd Amendment makes clear it shall be "well regulated ". Today we have a professional militia - The National Guard. It is well regulated. There is no call up of the citizens militia. That really leaves home defense as the only legitimate reason according to the Supreme Court. Yes hunting is also legitimate by custom and convention.

As 'constitutional originalists' always say, we must only consider the meaning of words as they were understood at the time of their writing. Therefore the proper meaning of the word firearm is a single shot muzzle loading flintlock.
Hand guns, shot guns and hunting rifles are common sense modern comparables. Modern high power, semi automatic, high capacity rifles designed for 21st century warfare are not.
The idea that the framers of the Constitution in their desire to in part "Insure domestic Tranquility " would intend the 2nd Amendment to allow one person armed with a weapon with the comparative firepower of a battalion of 18th century soldiers to enter the town square is absurd.

Weapons designed for modern warfare have no place in civil society. AR-15's and the like should be banned for civilian ownership. All citizens can joint the militia and be trained to use the weapons of today. They'll learn that well regulated militias store their arms securely in the armory, not laying around the bunkhouse...

After AR15's are banned, and the generous buyback amnesty period is over anyone found in possession would face criminal charges. No doubt many would keep their weapons but there would be no confiscation effort. The reality is that the military and NG would be the only place they could be used. If you keep yours you couldn't use it, no shooting ranges could allow them, you couldn't buy ammunition for them. If you were caught using one charges would include possession and use. Keeping yours would just become you dangerous hidden illegal secret...

In time as the madness of the gun proliferation period of American life fades into the past and common sense firearms reforms end the daily toll of mass shootings those who have worked so hard to keep gun proliferation profitable will be unable to wipe the blood from their hands.

Yes.....Europe banned and confiscated guns, for the very reasons you say you want them banned......and in 1939, over 6 years, murdered 20 million innocent men, women and children....

Meanwhile, in the U.S., over our entire 247 year history, gun murder?

Around 2,470,000


How many hundreds of years will it take us to catch up to Europe with their gun control?

 

[2aguy]

Do you know anyone who would want to live in the world you appear to eagerly await?

How about the 200 million people murdered by their governments since 1917.........?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You have buy back programs and then amnesty hand in days over the decades. In between those, those in possession in normal every policing duties will then face confiscation, bans, fines, jail etc..

The stubborn will soon find out.

Criminals aren't going to turn in their illegal firearms. Damn, you people are dumb...lol