BAN AR-15 GUNS

[wihosa]

A petition on Change.org, which came up with I Googled "ban the AR15" to, once again, prove one of our resident trolls a liar
Petition: Sign the Petition
Resident lying troll: 2023: The truth about mass shootings and the AR-15

Anyway, the petition includes all the usual talking points, mindlessly regurgitated by a useful idiot who understands none of what she says.
Typical, unremarkable, and just as common on this board.

Included in this petition is a statement similar found in all such prattle:
BAN THESE WEAPONS NOW!! Sign and tell congress: we do not want these weapons available to the public for any reason

To this, I always ask, but never receive a meaningful response:
Currently, Americans own >20,000,000 AR-15s
-How will banning the AR15 accomplish anything if those 20,000,000 AR15s remain in private hands?
-How do you plan to get rid of them?

I doubt my experience this time will be any different than all the others.

Make ownership illegal. Offer buyback during an amnesty period. Thereafter criminal charges for possession. Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia (National Guard).

 

[Flash]

You have buy back programs and then amnesty hand in days over the decades. In between those, those in possession in normal every policing duties will then face confiscation, bans, fines, jail etc..

The stubborn will soon find out.

How about just saying no to any bans?

No confiscation. No buy backs. No making a gun owner a criminal. No infringing on the right to keep and bear arms like is says in the Constitution?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Make ownership illegal. Offer buyback during an amnesty period. Thereafter criminal charges for possession. Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia (National Guard).

What happens when the owners of those >20,000,000 (unregistered) ARs tell you to FO?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Make ownership illegal. Offer buyback during an amnesty period. Thereafter criminal charges for possession. Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia (National Guard).

You just created fifty or sixty MILLION new felons. You pass that law, and most AR-15 (and other gun owners) are going to ignore it. Almost all cops will refuse to enforce it.

 

[wihosa]

We the people adopted our Constitution in part to 'ensure domestic tranquility '. You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia into the right of any individual to have any weapon, in any place, for any reason! You've turned the whole country into a shooting gallery where no one is safe. When are you going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?....
Gun deaths number one cause of death for children

After the amnesty buy back period there would be no confiscation effort but if someone is caught in possession of any weapon of war they would be criminally charged.

 

[HeyNorm]

I certainly can:
One teenager with an AR15 held 376 police officers at bay for 77 minutes.

When you have 376 cowards in the same location, a sling shot is just as effective

Now, consider the millions of people with AR-15s………..

How many cops you got?

 

[M14 Shooter]

We the people adopted our Constitution in part to 'ensure domestic tranquility '.

The 2nd Amendment - amends - the constitution.
The 1nd amendment - protects - the right to keep and bear arms from the powers given to the state.

You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia....

No one has, or ever has had, the right to join the militia.
Thus, your statement is a lie.

into the right of any individual to have any weapon,

This is a lie.

You've turned the whole country into a shooting gallery where no one is safe.

This is a lie.

Gun deaths number one cause of death for children

So?

After the amnesty buy back period there would be no confiscation effort....

And so, the 20,000,000 AR15s in private hands would stay there -- and the ban on them would do nothing to reduce access to them.
As such, the ban you seek will do - nothing - affect shootings of any kind.

Conclusion: You don't care about children, you just want to ban guns.

Stack up. Try it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

When you have 376 cowards in the same location, a sling shot is just as effective
Now, consider the millions of people with AR-15s………..
How many cops you got?

The question:
How many people are liberals prepared to spend to confiscate the 20,000,000 unregistered AR15s currently in private hands?

 

[2aguy]

Make ownership illegal. Offer buyback during an amnesty period. Thereafter criminal charges for possession. Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia (National Guard).

AR-15s are not wapons of war...pump action shotguns and bolt action rifles are weapons of war

 

[2aguy]

The question:
How many people are liberals prepared to spend to confiscate the 20,000,000 unregistered AR15s currently in private hands?

The democrat leadership is justing itching to pull triggers against Americans.....

 

[Bell Huey]

A petition on Change.org, which came up with I Googled "ban the AR15" to, once again, prove one of our resident trolls a liar
Petition: Sign the Petition
Resident lying troll: 2023: The truth about mass shootings and the AR-15

Anyway, the petition includes all the usual talking points, mindlessly regurgitated by a useful idiot who understands none of what she says.
Typical, unremarkable, and just as common on this board.

Included in this petition is a statement similar found in all such prattle:
BAN THESE WEAPONS NOW!! Sign and tell congress: we do not want these weapons available to the public for any reason

To this, I always ask, but never receive a meaningful response:
Currently, Americans own >20,000,000 AR-15s
-How will banning the AR15 accomplish anything if those 20,000,000 AR15s remain in private hands?
-How do you plan to get rid of them?

I doubt my experience this time will be any different than all the others.

Pretty soon you won’t have to worry about It.

That is the MCX SPEAR, the civilian version of the new Army XM 7

 

[M14 Shooter]

Pretty soon you won’t have to worry about It.

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That is the MCX SPEAR, the civilian version of the new Army XM 7

Maybe once the price comes down...

 

[wihosa]

The 2nd Amendment - amends - the constitution.
The 1nd amendment - protects - the right to keep and bear arms from the powers given to the state.

No one has, or ever has had, the right to join the militia.
Thus, your statement is a lie.

This is a lie.

This is a lie.

So?

And so, the 20,000,000 AR15s in private hands would stay there -- and the ban on them would do nothing to reduce access to them.
As such, the ban you seek will do - nothing - affect shootings of any kind.

Conclusion: You don't care about children, you just want to ban guns.

Stack up. Try it.

The voice of denialism"...

 

[M14 Shooter]

The voice of denialism"...

You hate the truth.

 

[ding]

well regulated

Well regulated means in proper working order. The militia is every peaceable citizen not an officer of the country.

 

[ding]

The voice of denialism"...

Why do you want to punish peaceful law abiding citizens for the bad acts of a few?

 

[HeyNorm]

Why do you want to punish peaceful law abiding citizens for the bad acts of a few?

Perhaps they ARE the bad actors.

 

[ding]

Perhaps they ARE the bad actors.

That didn't take very long for you to suspend habeas corpus, Adolph?

 

[LibertyKid]

We the people adopted our Constitution in part to 'ensure domestic tranquility '. You gun freaks have perverted the right of every American to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia into the right of any individual to have any weapon, in any place, for any reason!

You misunderstand history. The right to bear arms for all citizens was tantamount to our formation and liberty. At the formation of our country, states like Massachusetts and Pennsylvania codified the individual right for citizens to bear arms.
Article XIII of the Pennsylvania Declaration of Rights of 1776 read:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE_00013262/

That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.6

Similarly, as another example, Massachusetts’s Declaration of Rights from 1780 provided

The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.7

Read the following link and or do some historical research and tell us how the 2A is only for militias.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE_00013262/

You've turned the whole country into a shooting gallery where no one is safe.

I've never been shot at. You?

When are you going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?....

You could be hit by a drunk driver. You could be run over or hit by someone looking at their phone. You could be sucker punched, fall, and hit your head and die. You could be stabbed to death. You could have a rock thrown on your car as you drive under an overpass. You could be a victim of an IED. You could trip and fall down some stairs. You're house could explode from a gas leak, or succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning. So many ways to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Do you live in absolute terror?

Gun deaths number one cause of death for children

That's because the narrative likes to pull in the under 18 criminal ghetto gang crimes to push the agenda.

After the amnesty buy back period there would be no confiscation effort but if someone is caught in possession of any weapon of war they would be criminally charged.

And this is where ignorance of our countries founding and belief that our gov't should never be trusted is evident with you. The right of the people to remove tyranny is tantamount. By removing the people's right to remove a tyrannical threat, domestic or foreign, you remove the ability of the people to hold gov't accountable and immediately give the gov't full power. That was never the intent of our founding fathers and framers of the constitution.

 

[Auld Phart]

Make ownership illegal. Offer buyback during an amnesty period. Thereafter criminal charges for possession. Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia (National Guard).

Weapons of war only for those in military or official militia

weapons of war?

like flintlocks, Colt.45s, 9mm handguns, sabers, swords, etc?