'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon

[Roadrunner]

can someone explain to me why people from Australia ---do stuff with drugs in Indonesia???

Profit.
Buy low, sell high - make cash by killing people.

Hey, death penalty for drugs keeps the price high, they played the game, they lost, and now, they become price support for the trade.

Maybe they should have thought it through a bit.

Now, they should just play their part.

 

[gtopa1]

Hot shower?? It's Bali...min temp 30oC!!!

I don't have a hot shower - who the fuck wants one here?

Exactly; I spent a lot of time in Darwin...last thing you wanted was HOT!!!

Even the bloody swimming pool was about 85oF!! And bullshit you're an extremist!!

Greg

 

[Vikrant]

I hope those poor souls get released.

 

[Indofred]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

 

[irosie91]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

 

[Roadrunner]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

 

[irosie91]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

 

[Roadrunner]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

 

[irosie91]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

 

[Roadrunner]

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

I try to avoid all shitholes.

 

[irosie91]

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

I try to avoid all shitholes.

good idea My own husband was born in a shariah shit hole-------because of him I will never see the pyramids. Not
only will he never return to the land of his birth for a visit----he
will never set foot in anything which is a shariah shithole

 

[Vikrant]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Indofred has some serious short circuit.

 

[Vikrant]

Alcohol is not allowed in Indonesia. So people turn to drugs when they need recreation stimulant.

 

[bianco]

Drugs should be cheap, legal and pure.

What folks do with them should be their own business.

Legalization would crush the cartels.

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

I try to avoid all shitholes.

good idea My own husband was born in a shariah shit hole-------because of him I will never see the pyramids. Not
only will he never return to the land of his birth for a visit----he
will never set foot in anything which is a shariah shithole

The pyramids are very overrated...IMO.

Maybe hunt around for a video tour, there must be one available somewhere.
No way I'll ever be going there, the graves have been disturbed...and besides that, it's in the Middle East...no thank you!

 

[irosie91]

'
I have difficulty addressing that issue. There are so many
self destructive behaviors from which self destructive
people choose. The fact that drugs are so much of a problem in Indonesia is not surprising -----drugs are a big problem in every shariah shit hole

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

I try to avoid all shitholes.

good idea My own husband was born in a shariah shit hole-------because of him I will never see the pyramids. Not
only will he never return to the land of his birth for a visit----he
will never set foot in anything which is a shariah shithole

The pyramids are very overrated...IMO.

Maybe hunt around for a video tour, there must be one available somewhere.
No way I'll ever be going there, the graves have been disturbed...and besides that, it's in the Middle East...no thank you!

the metropolitan museum of art------in New York-----HAS iT ALL-----including mummies and even had----for a time---I am not sure it is still there----mockups of the interiors-----of
pyramids. The metropolitan museum of art has a small replica of the PARTHENON too-------a place I have longed to see since my childhood-------the replica in the museum is small----BUT INTACT-----not the pile of rubble in Athens.

uhm------now that I think about it------I am not sure if the pyramid mock up was in the Museum of Natural history or---the met-------sorry------I have been at home too long

 

[Vikrant]

Lesson to be learned: Don't traffic in drugs through or in sharia shitholes.

lesson to be learned--- >>> STAY OUT OF SHARIAH SHITHOLES------rescue non muslims and boycott the stink

I try to avoid all shitholes.

good idea My own husband was born in a shariah shit hole-------because of him I will never see the pyramids. Not
only will he never return to the land of his birth for a visit----he
will never set foot in anything which is a shariah shithole

The pyramids are very overrated...IMO.

Maybe hunt around for a video tour, there must be one available somewhere.
No way I'll ever be going there, the graves have been disturbed...and besides that, it's in the Middle East...no thank you!

the metropolitan museum of art------in New York-----HAS iT ALL-----including mummies and even had----for a time---I am not sure it is still there----mockups of the interiors-----of
pyramids. The metropolitan museum of art has a small replica of the PARTHENON too-------a place I have longed to see since my childhood-------the replica in the museum is small----BUT INTACT-----not the pile of rubble in Athens.

uhm------now that I think about it------I am not sure if the pyramid mock up was in the Museum of Natural history or---the met-------sorry------I have been at home too long

You can watch the episodes of Ancient Aliens, it has plenty of material on Pyramids and ancient Egyptians.

 

[emilynghiem]

I support prison sentences only for drug smugglers/drug dealers, whose sins are great.

Indofred,

And if your children were to get involved in drug smuggling/drug dealing...for love, for partying at concerts, conned by the 'wrong crowd', etc?

I hope they aren't that stupid and greedy.
I'll make bloody sure they know right from wrong, unlike your drug killer (soon to be dead) bastards.

That's what all parents hope for.
They teach their kids right from wrong, but things can still go badly.

Here is Sukumaran's mother, and his sister and brother...


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Thanks bianco
if people guilty of trafficking drugs and humans
had to spend their lives in hard labor to pay restitution to victims and society
then the children enslaved in factories could go to school and let these criminals work their jobs for them.
We could replace sweatshops and places that sell women to be raped,
and use the fines and labor to convert such places into schools, daycare, and health clinics.

There are more effective sustainable means of consequences
that could be kept proportional to the crimes.
otherwise once you are already sentenced to death,
what motivation do you have to stop committing more and more crimes.

If the punishment is the same whether you murder one person or five,
what difference does it make if you are already going to be dead anyway?
We need to invest in restitution that breaks the cycle of crime and poverty.

I am beginning to think it is a male thing, and using death and politics
to make a statement to show off to other men who is in charge or control.

Why is it that all the people pushing for meaningful restitution
are either women or pro-women's rights.
There is something about patriarchal politics that is censoring the solutions.

Thank you for standing up and saying there is a better way.
I think this is censored because it is an approach that makes
more sense to women working to rebuild communities, while men are conditioned to one up each other
to the death and don't care who has to pay the social costs of war they wage on each other.

to them, death is a political solution, when to women it causes more burden
and cost on the families and doesn't solve the root cause.

as long as women pick up the tab in society, what motivation
do the men have to stop these war games?

Until we make it "safe" for men to stand up for something different,
they are considered cowards if they don't kill the bad guy to make a public statement.

What craziness is this? No wonder humanity is in such a mess.

 

[Indofred]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Police confirm death driver under influence of LSD The Jakarta Post

and the secondary victims.

People killed and injured for a dealer's profits.

I'm happy to report, the Australian drug murderers' final appeal has been rejected so they're as good as dead.

 

[emilynghiem]

I hope those poor souls get released.

I hope all their victims come back to life - but it isn't going to happen

whose "victims" I live in an area where anyone can buy drugs----I don't. People who DECIDE to take drugs are their
own victims

Police confirm death driver under influence of LSD The Jakarta Post

and the secondary victims.

People killed and injured for a dealer's profits.

I'm happy to report, the Australian drug murderers' final appeal has been rejected so they're as good as dead.

Still would prefer life sentences at hard labor
to pay financial restitution to the families and communities affected.

two or three people working for life
could help dozens of kids go to school
and get out of slave labor and sex and drug trafficking for money

Laster Global Consulting Human Trafficking Training and Consulting
for community education on reclaiming property as restitution for trafficking under RICO laws

PACE Universal - Teach a girl feed a village
for setting up schools and daycares to help create jobs and center for women and children
to end poverty and exploitation by trafficking

 

[Indofred]

two or three people working for life
could help dozens of kids go to school
and get out of slave labor and sex and drug trafficking for money

or get people off drugs?
I'm using these bastards to teach kids what happens when you're stupid. They're excellent teachers, even better when the fuckers are dead.