Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[Iceweasel]

So it's not the cake or the wedding.

It's about who they're making a cake for and who is having the wedding.

In case you didn't know, that's discrimination and illegal.

They and you can have all the beliefs you want.

You can't violate the law.

Why do you believe you and the baker should have special rights?

The law is being wrongly applied. Not one of them said they wouldn't sell them cakes for other events, just for the wedding.

They think SSM relationships are sinful, and a wedding is an open tangible celebration and affirmation of said relationship, and they want nothing to do with it.

And you are arguing the "how", i.e. The law is the law is the law, not the why. The why is what tangible benefit does government get from ruining a baker over not wanting to bake a cake, a contracted, non-immediate, non-emergency good or service.

Why does the gay couple's butt hurt override without question the baker's butt hurt?

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

 

[rightwinger]

In private business as per free-market capitalism the government should not compel you to serve anybody. It is unconstitutional in my opinion. Screw the Commerce Clause in Art I Sec. 8 and modern Courts interpretation.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

 

[rightwinger]

The law is being wrongly applied. Not one of them said they wouldn't sell them cakes for other events, just for the wedding.

They think SSM relationships are sinful, and a wedding is an open tangible celebration and affirmation of said relationship, and they want nothing to do with it.

And you are arguing the "how", i.e. The law is the law is the law, not the why. The why is what tangible benefit does government get from ruining a baker over not wanting to bake a cake, a contracted, non-immediate, non-emergency good or service.

Why does the gay couple's butt hurt override without question the baker's butt hurt?

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

Reproduction has nothing to do with equal protection under the law

 

[Bush92]

In private business as per free-market capitalism the government should not compel you to serve anybody. It is unconstitutional in my opinion. Screw the Commerce Clause in Art I Sec. 8 and modern Courts interpretation.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

They should have been arrested and removed by authorities. I have always agreed with civil rights, but to tell a business who they can and cannot serve is a violation of the owners rights as an entrepreneur.

 

[Bush92]

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

Reproduction has nothing to do with equal protection under the law

14th Amendment is the worst that has been added to Constitution and should be repealed. Radical Republican nut jobs added it after Civil War for political purposes.

 

[Seawytch]

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

You brought race into it like you always do. You did it this time too!

Sexuality is individual. There's no Constitutional definition of marriage, it was to be left up to states, and they did and still do vary. The fact that first cousin gays can't marry in those states shows how silly the whole thing is. Plus we still discriminate against all others, polygamists, incestial, bi-sexuals. It's just moving the goal posts in the hopes of normalizing homosexuality.

Except it wasn't left up to the sates. There have been four rulings that contradict your claim. Loving v Virginia, Turner v Safely, Zablocki v Wisconsin and Obergerfell v Hodges. Only one of the three dealt with race.

Racial decisions. Then you lie and ask when you said it was racial.

LOL

Jesus H Christ on a raft. Slow down and READ. I said only ONE of those rulings had to do with race.

 

[Bush92]

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

You brought race into it like you always do. You did it this time too!

Sexuality is individual. There's no Constitutional definition of marriage, it was to be left up to states, and they did and still do vary. The fact that first cousin gays can't marry in those states shows how silly the whole thing is. Plus we still discriminate against all others, polygamists, incestial, bi-sexuals. It's just moving the goal posts in the hopes of normalizing homosexuality.

Except it wasn't left up to the sates. There have been four rulings that contradict your claim. Loving v Virginia, Turner v Safely, Zablocki v Wisconsin and Obergerfell v Hodges. Only one of the three dealt with race.

Racial decisions. Then you lie and ask when you said it was racial.

LOL

Jesus H Christ on a raft. Slow down and READ. I said only ONE of those rulings had to do with race.

The Lord needs no raft. He can walk across water.

 

[Seawytch]

The law is being wrongly applied. Not one of them said they wouldn't sell them cakes for other events, just for the wedding.

They think SSM relationships are sinful, and a wedding is an open tangible celebration and affirmation of said relationship, and they want nothing to do with it.

And you are arguing the "how", i.e. The law is the law is the law, not the why. The why is what tangible benefit does government get from ruining a baker over not wanting to bake a cake, a contracted, non-immediate, non-emergency good or service.

Why does the gay couple's butt hurt override without question the baker's butt hurt?

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

No, I don't. I never once said that being gay was like being a race. I said the discrimination suffered by interracial couples was exactly the same as the discrimination suffered by gay couples.

Can you tell the difference between quotes about interracial marriage and gay marriage?

Bet You Can’t Tell The Difference Between These Actual Anti-Interracial And Anti-Gay Marriage Quotes

 

[rightwinger]

In private business as per free-market capitalism the government should not compel you to serve anybody. It is unconstitutional in my opinion. Screw the Commerce Clause in Art I Sec. 8 and modern Courts interpretation.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

They should have been arrested and removed by authorities. I have always agreed with civil rights, but to tell a business who they can and cannot serve is a violation of the owners rights as an entrepreneur.

They were arrested and kept coming back. Endured abuse and harassment without lifting a finger in retaliation

American patriots

 

[Iceweasel]

We didn't care about racists that thought interracial marriage was sinful. Why should homophobes get special rights that racists don't?

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

No, I don't. I never once said that being gay was like being a race. I said the discrimination suffered by interracial couples was exactly the same as the discrimination suffered by gay couples.

Can you tell the difference between quotes about interracial marriage and gay marriage?

Bet You Can’t Tell The Difference Between These Actual Anti-Interracial And Anti-Gay Marriage Quotes

You did it again. You are brainwashed and live in denial.

 

[P@triot]

Reproduction has nothing to do with equal protection under the law

And the law says I have a right to practice my religion as I see fit - including avoiding homosexuality if I feel that it is a sin that I do not wish to support or assist. Sorry winger - as usual - you lose. The 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says so.

 

[owebo]

In private business as per free-market capitalism the government should not compel you to serve anybody. It is unconstitutional in my opinion. Screw the Commerce Clause in Art I Sec. 8 and modern Courts interpretation.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

They should have been arrested and removed by authorities. I have always agreed with civil rights, but to tell a business who they can and cannot serve is a violation of the owners rights as an entrepreneur.

They were arrested and kept coming back. Endured abuse and harassment without lifting a finger in retaliation

American patriots

The bakers are the epitome of great American patriots....standing against you fascist democrats.....

 

[Iceweasel]

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

You brought race into it like you always do. You did it this time too!

Sexuality is individual. There's no Constitutional definition of marriage, it was to be left up to states, and they did and still do vary. The fact that first cousin gays can't marry in those states shows how silly the whole thing is. Plus we still discriminate against all others, polygamists, incestial, bi-sexuals. It's just moving the goal posts in the hopes of normalizing homosexuality.

Except it wasn't left up to the sates. There have been four rulings that contradict your claim. Loving v Virginia, Turner v Safely, Zablocki v Wisconsin and Obergerfell v Hodges. Only one of the three dealt with race.

Racial decisions. Then you lie and ask when you said it was racial.

LOL

Jesus H Christ on a raft. Slow down and READ. I said only ONE of those rulings had to do with race.

That's one too many. You keep trying to obfuscate it. Human sexuality isn't a race so nothing about race applies. We can't do anything about our race but people have been known to develope sexual preferences one way or another. It's like the man is a woman if he thinks so thing. The mindset overrides reality.

 

[Seawytch]

Homosexuals are not a separate race. Repeating it over and over won't make it happen. There is no right for bisexuals to marry male and female, doesn't seem to bother you because it isn't your particular bag. Disagreeing with you isn't a phobia, it just makes you an intolerant asshole for making the claims.

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

No, I don't. I never once said that being gay was like being a race. I said the discrimination suffered by interracial couples was exactly the same as the discrimination suffered by gay couples.

Can you tell the difference between quotes about interracial marriage and gay marriage?

Bet You Can’t Tell The Difference Between These Actual Anti-Interracial And Anti-Gay Marriage Quotes

You did it again. You are brainwashed and live in denial.

What I "did again" was compare the bigots. That's why the comparisons get you so upset. It's not because I'm comparing race to sexual orientation, because I'm not. I'm just comparing the bigots. Since you're an anti gay bigot, you don't like being compared to racist bigots. Boo ******* hoo. Don't be an anti gay bigot then the comparison wouldn't upset you so.

Did you take the test? Failed it didn't you?

 

[P@triot]

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

Well there is some "logic". Because some idiot progressives desperate for power shredded the U.S. Constitution once, we should shred it again?

The law says I have a right to practice my religion as I see fit - including avoiding homosexuality if I feel that it is a sin that I do not wish to support or assist. Sorry wytch - you lose. The 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says so.

 

[owebo]

Where did I say that sexual orientation was a race? Oh, that's right, I didn't. What is the same is the discrimination faced by interracial couples wanting to marry and gays wanting to marry. The similarity between the two are actually in the bigots that oppose them, not the groups themselves.

We did not allow bakers, photographers or candlestick makers to discriminate against interracial couples even thought they found their relationships sinful, abhorrent, disgusting, etc. Why should anti gay bigots get to discriminate where racist bigots did not?

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

No, I don't. I never once said that being gay was like being a race. I said the discrimination suffered by interracial couples was exactly the same as the discrimination suffered by gay couples.

Can you tell the difference between quotes about interracial marriage and gay marriage?

Bet You Can’t Tell The Difference Between These Actual Anti-Interracial And Anti-Gay Marriage Quotes

You did it again. You are brainwashed and live in denial.

What I "did again" was compare the bigots. That's why the comparisons get you so upset. It's not because I'm comparing race to sexual orientation, because I'm not. I'm just comparing the bigots. Since you're an anti gay bigot, you don't like being compared to racist bigots. Boo ******* hoo. Don't be an anti gay bigot then the comparison wouldn't upset you so.

Did you take the test? Failed it didn't you?

A choice is a choice.....don't like it? Make another one....

 

[Silhouette]

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

1. The 7th Circuit federal court of appeals just found in Hively v Ivy Tech (2016), that the 1964 Civil Rights Act does not apply to homosexuals: because homosexuality is a BEHAVIOR and not a race or equal to a race or gender.

2. If a gay graphic designer was forced to print a huge highway billboard sign for a major interstate that said "Homosexuality is a sin unto God", against his deepest held beliefs, for a Christian customer, under threat of financial or licensing punishment otherwise; you'd be screaming bloody murder. And in Oregon right now, a Christian could force such a designer to do exactly that; or be fined.

 

[P@triot]

What I "did again" was compare the bigots.

Freedom includes the right to be a "bigot". You don't get to play Saddam Hussein in the United States and tell people they must accept something or support something.

What's really sad is that you're not celebrating bigots. You should be grateful and thankful that you live in a nation so free, people can be bigots and you can be homosexual. You fail to realize that your idiotic belief in a government placing a gun to the head's of its citizens for what you want can be used against you. Just wait until the muslims you're trying to get into this country to win elections end up turning that gun on you because of your homosexuality. You'll wish you had embraced freedom. Including the freedom to be a bigot.

 

[Seawytch]

In private business as per free-market capitalism the government should not compel you to serve anybody. It is unconstitutional in my opinion. Screw the Commerce Clause in Art I Sec. 8 and modern Courts interpretation.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

They should have been arrested and removed by authorities. I have always agreed with civil rights, but to tell a business who they can and cannot serve is a violation of the owners rights as an entrepreneur.

So what are YOU doing to get rid of Title II of the Civil Rights Act?

 

[Seawytch]

So, you're saying people can make a choice as to what race they are? Do tell...

She thinks homosexuality is a race. Anything that applies to race should apply to homosexuals. Except that they didn't want blacks marrying whites because the races would be mixed. She's too stupid to understand that like genders don't reproduce.

No, I don't. I never once said that being gay was like being a race. I said the discrimination suffered by interracial couples was exactly the same as the discrimination suffered by gay couples.

Can you tell the difference between quotes about interracial marriage and gay marriage?

Bet You Can’t Tell The Difference Between These Actual Anti-Interracial And Anti-Gay Marriage Quotes

You did it again. You are brainwashed and live in denial.

What I "did again" was compare the bigots. That's why the comparisons get you so upset. It's not because I'm comparing race to sexual orientation, because I'm not. I'm just comparing the bigots. Since you're an anti gay bigot, you don't like being compared to racist bigots. Boo ******* hoo. Don't be an anti gay bigot then the comparison wouldn't upset you so.

Did you take the test? Failed it didn't you?

A choice is a choice.....don't like it? Make another one....

Gays aren't making a choice, bigots are.