Bad Teaching is Tearing America Apart: Education’s dumbing down frays the bonds of citizenship and is hardest on the poor.

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K-higher education is focused upon hatred of America and American values.


If you have school-age children, the pandemic-induced move to online classes may give you an unusual window into their education. E.D. Hirsch expects you’ll be surprised by “how little whole-class instruction is going on,” how little knowledge is communicated, and how there is “no coherence” from day to day, let alone from year to year.

The current fashion is for teachers to be a “guide on the side, instead of a sage on the stage,” he says, quoting the latest pedagogical slogan, which means that teachers aren’t supposed to lecture students but to “facilitate” learning by nudging students to follow their own curiosity. Everything Mr. Hirsch knows about how children learn tells him that’s the wrong approach. “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction,” in which a teacher directly communicates information using a prescribed sequential curriculum. . . .

He cites both history and neuroscience in explaining how education went wrong. It began in the 1940s, when “schools unbolted the desks and kids were no longer facing the teacher.” Instead children were divided into small groups and instructed to complete worksheets independently with occasional input from teachers. “That was also when our verbal test scores went down and the relative ranking of our elementary schools declined on a national level.” On the International Adult Literacy Survey, Americans went from being No. 1 for children who were educated in the 1950s to fifth for those in the ’70s and 14th in the ’90s. And things have only gotten worse. Between 2002 and 2015, American schoolchildren went from a ranking of 15th to 24th in reading on the Program for International Student Assessment.

The problem runs deeper than the style of instruction, Mr. Hirsch says. It’s the concept at its root—“child-centered classrooms,” the notion that “education is partly a matter of drawing out a child’s inborn nature.” Mr. Hirsch says emphatically that a child’s mind is “a blank slate.” On this point he agrees with John Locke and disagrees with Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who thought children need to develop according to their nature. Both philosophers make the “Cultural Literacy” list, but “Locke has to make a comeback” among educators, Mr. Hirsch says. “The culture is up for grabs, and elementary schools are the culture makers.”

Mr. Hirsch is a man of the left—he has said he is “practically a socialist.” But he bristles at the idea that kids should read only books by people who look like them or live like them.

 

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K-higher education is focused upon hatred of America and American values.


If you have school-age children, the pandemic-induced move to online classes may give you an unusual window into their education. E.D. Hirsch expects you’ll be surprised by “how little whole-class instruction is going on,” how little knowledge is communicated, and how there is “no coherence” from day to day, let alone from year to year.

The current fashion is for teachers to be a “guide on the side, instead of a sage on the stage,” he says, quoting the latest pedagogical slogan, which means that teachers aren’t supposed to lecture students but to “facilitate” learning by nudging students to follow their own curiosity. Everything Mr. Hirsch knows about how children learn tells him that’s the wrong approach. “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction,” in which a teacher directly communicates information using a prescribed sequential curriculum. . . .

He cites both history and neuroscience in explaining how education went wrong. It began in the 1940s, when “schools unbolted the desks and kids were no longer facing the teacher.” Instead children were divided into small groups and instructed to complete worksheets independently with occasional input from teachers. “That was also when our verbal test scores went down and the relative ranking of our elementary schools declined on a national level.” On the International Adult Literacy Survey, Americans went from being No. 1 for children who were educated in the 1950s to fifth for those in the ’70s and 14th in the ’90s. And things have only gotten worse. Between 2002 and 2015, American schoolchildren went from a ranking of 15th to 24th in reading on the Program for International Student Assessment.

The problem runs deeper than the style of instruction, Mr. Hirsch says. It’s the concept at its root—“child-centered classrooms,” the notion that “education is partly a matter of drawing out a child’s inborn nature.” Mr. Hirsch says emphatically that a child’s mind is “a blank slate.” On this point he agrees with John Locke and disagrees with Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who thought children need to develop according to their nature. Both philosophers make the “Cultural Literacy” list, but “Locke has to make a comeback” among educators, Mr. Hirsch says. “The culture is up for grabs, and elementary schools are the culture makers.”

Mr. Hirsch is a man of the left—he has said he is “practically a socialist.” But he bristles at the idea that kids should read only books by people who look like them or live like them.

Is that why I am paying $750 bucks for my son's AP classes in highschool over subjects such as: English, Math and French because of the entire time he is in school they are teaching him to hate America? You are a distraught lost person and I hope you get well soon.
 
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K-higher education is focused upon hatred of America and American values.


If you have school-age children, the pandemic-induced move to online classes may give you an unusual window into their education. E.D. Hirsch expects you’ll be surprised by “how little whole-class instruction is going on,” how little knowledge is communicated, and how there is “no coherence” from day to day, let alone from year to year.

The current fashion is for teachers to be a “guide on the side, instead of a sage on the stage,” he says, quoting the latest pedagogical slogan, which means that teachers aren’t supposed to lecture students but to “facilitate” learning by nudging students to follow their own curiosity. Everything Mr. Hirsch knows about how children learn tells him that’s the wrong approach. “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction,” in which a teacher directly communicates information using a prescribed sequential curriculum. . . .

He cites both history and neuroscience in explaining how education went wrong. It began in the 1940s, when “schools unbolted the desks and kids were no longer facing the teacher.” Instead children were divided into small groups and instructed to complete worksheets independently with occasional input from teachers. “That was also when our verbal test scores went down and the relative ranking of our elementary schools declined on a national level.” On the International Adult Literacy Survey, Americans went from being No. 1 for children who were educated in the 1950s to fifth for those in the ’70s and 14th in the ’90s. And things have only gotten worse. Between 2002 and 2015, American schoolchildren went from a ranking of 15th to 24th in reading on the Program for International Student Assessment.

The problem runs deeper than the style of instruction, Mr. Hirsch says. It’s the concept at its root—“child-centered classrooms,” the notion that “education is partly a matter of drawing out a child’s inborn nature.” Mr. Hirsch says emphatically that a child’s mind is “a blank slate.” On this point he agrees with John Locke and disagrees with Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who thought children need to develop according to their nature. Both philosophers make the “Cultural Literacy” list, but “Locke has to make a comeback” among educators, Mr. Hirsch says. “The culture is up for grabs, and elementary schools are the culture makers.”

Mr. Hirsch is a man of the left—he has said he is “practically a socialist.” But he bristles at the idea that kids should read only books by people who look like them or live like them.

Is that why I am paying $750 bucks for my son's AP classes in highschool over subjects such as: English, Math and French because of the entire time he is in school they are teaching him to hate America? You are a distraught lost person and I hope you get well soon.
Keep digging.
 

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Another troll thread by an absolutely obsessed crackpot who knows nothing about education and has never taught a class once in his life.
 

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The current fashion is for teachers to be a “guide on the side, instead of a sage on the stage,” he says, quoting the latest pedagogical slogan, which means that teachers aren’t supposed to lecture students but to “facilitate” learning by nudging students to follow their own curiosity. ....
And yet the other kind of obsessed crackpot on this site never stops whining about how American schools are soul-crushing oppressors and the enemies of individualism. Which kind of ignorant crackpot is correct, Rain Man?
 
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Another troll thread by an absolutely obsessed crackpot who knows nothing about education and has never taught a class once in his life.
Another typical troll teacher who can’t address the OP.
I'm addressing your comments. Are you unprepared to support them?
Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? A quarter for everyone under 30 rioting for no reason except love of evil?
The fruits of your work is on display right now.
 

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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
 
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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
 

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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
People die from accidents, disease, and stupid decisions every day. The fruits of doctors' treatment?
 
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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
People die from accidents, disease, and stupid decisions every day. The fruits of doctors' treatment?
Doctors younger than 30? Do they work at the weed shops handing out prescriptions?

The fruits of the education system are on display in the news.
 
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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
People die from accidents, disease, and stupid decisions every day. The fruits of doctors' treatment?
Maybe you teachers of critical thinking should stop suspending good kids for sandwiches shaped like guns and having a water pistol in the background during an online class.
 

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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
People die from accidents, disease, and stupid decisions every day. The fruits of doctors' treatment?
Maybe you teachers of critical thinking should stop suspending good kids for sandwiches shaped like guns and having a water pistol in the background during an online class.
Well, since I have never done either of those things, maybe you should kiss my ass and admit you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
 
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Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? ...
You're not qualified to assess that. You would fail a history test I am going to give high school freshmen who do not speak English as a first language. You would fail miserably. Do you also want a penny for every adult who doesn't remember basic Algebra?
Just look at the news. The fruits of your education is on display 7/24.
People die from accidents, disease, and stupid decisions every day. The fruits of doctors' treatment?
Maybe you teachers of critical thinking should stop suspending good kids for sandwiches shaped like guns and having a water pistol in the background during an online class.
Well, since I have never done either of those things, maybe you should kiss my ass and admit you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
News flash: Not everything is about you. Mr Teacher of Critical Thinking needs to learn what a generalization is.
 

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What exactly do you want taught? You want a bunch of red white and blue cheerleaders? Kids who grow up get out of bed and sing the anthem? C'mon where's your common sense. None of what you speak of is taught in our public schools here.
 

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Another troll thread by an absolutely obsessed crackpot who knows nothing about education and has never taught a class once in his life.
Another typical troll teacher who can’t address the OP.
I'm addressing your comments. Are you unprepared to support them?
Do I get a dime for every person on YouTube under 30 who doesn’t know basic history? A quarter for everyone under 30 rioting for no reason except love of evil?
The fruits of your work is on display right now.
People who do not know doesn't mean they weren't taught. When is that going to penetrate your head? You are a perfect example of someone who is taught, yet refuses to learn.
 

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