Bad atheist arguments

[Questioner]

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children

Boring troll,intentionally saying stupid shit for attention.

Look up the Marquis de Sade, or Max Stirner if you're interested.

If you believe those are wrong, even if "just because" rather than "God or the Bible", that's still faith nonetheless, which ironically can't be substantiated to begin with without appealing to systems such as the Common Law system, which developed from prior systems including "religious" and Judeo-Christian ones.

"Man without morality is little removed from beasts".

And many people, even as per the law and its architects itself, such as Holmes are immoral on an interpersonal level, only not doing those things to begin without out of fear of the law and violent retribution, not out of morality, intentions, sincerity, or other notions that the law is predicated on in 1st world countries.

It never presumes that most men are moral, or anywhere on the same level of morality as an architect and preserver of the law to begin with, but that some are merely forced not to be as "immoral" as they otherwise would without it to restrain their feral passions and impulses. Though in a 1st world nation, the law gives a man or woman a right to be a sociopath in private, so long as they don't step over the fine line and violate its rules, much as the legal system is designed to prevent it from being "gamed" or weaponized by sociopaths using it for evil or malevolent intentions, such as revenge or harassment; vexatious litigants being and example of that.

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

 

[Vastator]

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children

Boring troll,intentionally saying stupid shit for attention.

Look up the Marquis de Sade, or Max Stirner if you're interested.

If you believe those are wrong, even if "just because" rather than "God or the Bible", that's still faith nonetheless, which ironically can't be substantiated to begin with without appealing to systems such as the Common Law system, which developed from prior systems including "religious" and Judeo-Christian ones.

"Man without morality is little removed from beasts".

And many people, even as per the law and its architects itself, such as Holmes are immoral on an interpersonal level, only not doing those things to begin without out of fear of the law and violent retribution, not out of morality, intentions, sincerity, or other notions that the law is predicated on in 1st world countries.

It never presumes that most men are moral, or anywhere on the same level of morality as an architect and preserver of the law to begin with, but that some are merely forced not to be as "immoral" as they otherwise would without it to restrain their feral passions and impulses. Though in a 1st world nation, the law gives a man or woman a right to be a sociopath in private, so long as they don't step over the fine line and violate its rules, much as the legal system is designed to prevent it from being "gamed" or weaponized by sociopaths using it for evil or malevolent intentions, such as revenge or harassment; vexatious litigants being and example of that.

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

 

[Questioner]

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children

Boring troll,intentionally saying stupid shit for attention.

Look up the Marquis de Sade, or Max Stirner if you're interested.

If you believe those are wrong, even if "just because" rather than "God or the Bible", that's still faith nonetheless, which ironically can't be substantiated to begin with without appealing to systems such as the Common Law system, which developed from prior systems including "religious" and Judeo-Christian ones.

"Man without morality is little removed from beasts".

And many people, even as per the law and its architects itself, such as Holmes are immoral on an interpersonal level, only not doing those things to begin without out of fear of the law and violent retribution, not out of morality, intentions, sincerity, or other notions that the law is predicated on in 1st world countries.

It never presumes that most men are moral, or anywhere on the same level of morality as an architect and preserver of the law to begin with, but that some are merely forced not to be as "immoral" as they otherwise would without it to restrain their feral passions and impulses. Though in a 1st world nation, the law gives a man or woman a right to be a sociopath in private, so long as they don't step over the fine line and violate its rules, much as the legal system is designed to prevent it from being "gamed" or weaponized by sociopaths using it for evil or malevolent intentions, such as revenge or harassment; vexatious litigants being and example of that.

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

 

[Vastator]

Boring troll,intentionally saying stupid shit for attention.

Look up the Marquis de Sade, or Max Stirner if you're interested.

If you believe those are wrong, even if "just because" rather than "God or the Bible", that's still faith nonetheless, which ironically can't be substantiated to begin with without appealing to systems such as the Common Law system, which developed from prior systems including "religious" and Judeo-Christian ones.

"Man without morality is little removed from beasts".

And many people, even as per the law and its architects itself, such as Holmes are immoral on an interpersonal level, only not doing those things to begin without out of fear of the law and violent retribution, not out of morality, intentions, sincerity, or other notions that the law is predicated on in 1st world countries.

It never presumes that most men are moral, or anywhere on the same level of morality as an architect and preserver of the law to begin with, but that some are merely forced not to be as "immoral" as they otherwise would without it to restrain their feral passions and impulses. Though in a 1st world nation, the law gives a man or woman a right to be a sociopath in private, so long as they don't step over the fine line and violate its rules, much as the legal system is designed to prevent it from being "gamed" or weaponized by sociopaths using it for evil or malevolent intentions, such as revenge or harassment; vexatious litigants being and example of that.

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

Was that your actual response? Serious question...

 

[Questioner]

Look up the Marquis de Sade, or Max Stirner if you're interested.

If you believe those are wrong, even if "just because" rather than "God or the Bible", that's still faith nonetheless, which ironically can't be substantiated to begin with without appealing to systems such as the Common Law system, which developed from prior systems including "religious" and Judeo-Christian ones.

"Man without morality is little removed from beasts".

And many people, even as per the law and its architects itself, such as Holmes are immoral on an interpersonal level, only not doing those things to begin without out of fear of the law and violent retribution, not out of morality, intentions, sincerity, or other notions that the law is predicated on in 1st world countries.

It never presumes that most men are moral, or anywhere on the same level of morality as an architect and preserver of the law to begin with, but that some are merely forced not to be as "immoral" as they otherwise would without it to restrain their feral passions and impulses. Though in a 1st world nation, the law gives a man or woman a right to be a sociopath in private, so long as they don't step over the fine line and violate its rules, much as the legal system is designed to prevent it from being "gamed" or weaponized by sociopaths using it for evil or malevolent intentions, such as revenge or harassment; vexatious litigants being and example of that.

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

Was that your actual response? Serious question...

Yes.

 

[EvMetro]

Question, if an atheist (or a nihilist to be more specific) doesn't rape or murder, does that mean he is a "good person", or that he's a "bad atheist".

It is likely that the atheist/ commie/ nihilist is just concerned about being locked up. Our country was founded upon the same set of Judeo Christian values that Western Civilization was founded on, but we still had to have laws and punishment to keep atheists and nihilists in line.

 

[Vastator]

Such assumptions are predicated upon the view of the observer.

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

As such; aforementioned people are merely observers, little more than base animals.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Restrained only by the fear of the unknown...

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

Was that your actual response? Serious question...

Yes.

I believe you...

 

[Questioner]

Some observers having a keen vision than others, much as one man may have 20/20 vision, while others are blind as a bat.

That, of course would be incorrect, a base animal only observing on the simplest sensory level, which even an infant could do.

While a superior man and women not merely passively observing, but rationalizing, calculating, judging, discerning, mathematically approximating, and so forth.

Not fear of the unknown, but fear of that which is better off not being known to begin with.

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

Was that your actual response? Serious question...

Yes.

I believe you...

I don't believe you.

 

[Vastator]

Whatever helps your fearful, ignorant ass sleep at night... Boo!!!

Facts are tough to swallow, I'm very sorry. Perhaps there's a guilty conscience at work?

Was that your actual response? Serious question...

Yes.

I believe you...

I don't believe you.

I dont care...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Theists have faith there is a God, Atheists have faith that there is not a God

Thank you for repeating yourself, that will be helpful for those who need to hear you repeat yourself. Which is nobody.

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting. All the Atheists I have ever interacted with were people of faith. Faith that there is no God.

I agree. Most of the Atheists I've known have come from theistic backgrounds; and walked when the tenants of faith failed the smell test...

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

Atheists don’t need faith to support their beliefs
They rely on facts

Atheists don’t need faith to condemn murder, rape, torture or so forth
We oppose it because it is wrong, not because some God will punish us

 

[EvMetro]

Theists have faith there is a God, Atheists have faith that there is not a God

Thank you for repeating yourself, that will be helpful for those who need to hear you repeat yourself. Which is nobody.

I bet you claim to be an atheist who does not have faith that there is no God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Theists have faith there is a God, Atheists have faith that there is not a God

Thank you for repeating yourself, that will be helpful for those who need to hear you repeat yourself. Which is nobody.

I bet you claim to be an atheist who does not have faith that there is no God.

Wow, what makes you so sure? Was it the fact that I said that already? You're like Nostradamus, but you predict the past. Amazing.

I already pointed out that we differ in our use of the word atheist. You cling to the bastardized colloquial version, because you are lazy and it is more convenient for your complaining.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Interesting. All the Atheists I have ever interacted with were people of faith. Faith that there is no God.

I agree. Most of the Atheists I've known have come from theistic backgrounds; and walked when the tenants of faith failed the smell test...

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

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Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children."


Fuk you, you stinking piece of shit!

I am so sick of fuking ignorant pieces of conservative crap like you making OUTRAGEOUS claims about EVIL BEHAVIOR of atheists simply because we are not stupid enough to believe in YOUR god.

YOU are the one who has made comments about MURDERING people simply for not embracing YOUR lunacies.

I don't believe in god.
That does NOT make me a murderer or a rapist you fukin lying sack of conservative crap.

 

[EvMetro]

Atheists don’t need faith to support their beliefs

LOL, I don't really need to piss, I just have to urinate.

 

[Questioner]

I agree. Most of the Atheists I've known have come from theistic backgrounds; and walked when the tenants of faith failed the smell test...

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

Atheists don’t need faith to support their beliefs

Which atheists? You have faith that "all atheists" do this, which is silly, since many of them have admitted that they were only atheist because their parents or immediate culture was, and probably would have been Muslim had they been born into a Muslim family.

They rely on facts

You don't know what "facts" are to begin with, facts are just pieces of information, which presumably any theory, thesis, assertion, and so forth is based on, regardless of the ultimate validity thereof.

So the idea that any system of belief in a God, or body of theology isn't based on facts, is rather silly and naïve to begin with.

Most likely by "facts", you don't mean what facts or information actually is in the broadest sense of the word, you merely mean specific pieces of information which are components of specific theories (e.x. components of archaic 19th century natural scientific theories, or Bacon's outdated 15th century method), generally simply because you were taught, or indoctrinated into them, such as by teachers, authority figures, media personalities, not based on having invented or mathematically approximated the theories yourself.

Much as were alchemy, or the various theories of the Catholic Church the popular methods or bodies of knowledge of your day and age, you would have believed them simply because you were taught they were so, or lack the intelligence and thought capacity to imagine life or the miniscule world as you know it without them, barely knowing even that much, beyond perhaps rote memorization and regurgitation, as opposed to deeper thought and comprehension, as taught by fellows such as the Rhodes Scholar Edward De Bono - as opposed to fellows of the more inquisitive variety, such as Galileo, Newton, Einstein, and various thinkers who question popular or firmly established bodies of knowledge and simple folk believes of their day and age and so forth.

Not that the two things have anything to do with each other to begin with, since faith in Bacon's scientific method or its theories has nothing to do with "atheism" to begin with, given that atheists have existed since the dawn of history, such as in the case of Epicurus and others, regardless of what theories or bodies of knowledge were popular during that day and age.

Atheists don’t need faith to condemn murder, rape, torture or so forth
We oppose it because it is wrong, not because some God will punish us

You oppose it because you have faith that it's wrong, regardless of facts, yes, false as that dichotomy is.

And many of you are immoral and only avoid doing those things out of fear of the law, even if not of God.

 

[Vastator]

I agree. Most of the Atheists I've known have come from theistic backgrounds; and walked when the tenants of faith failed the smell test...

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

"
Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children."


Fuk you, you stinking piece of shit!

I am so sick of fuking ignorant pieces of conservative crap like you making OUTRAGEOUS claims about EVIL BEHAVIOR of atheists simply because we are not stupid enough to believe in YOUR god.

YOU are the one who has made comments about MURDERING people simply for not embracing YOUR lunacies.

I don't believe in god.
That does NOT make me a murderer or a rapist you fukin lying sack of conservative crap.

Incedentaly... As an atheist; I rape, and murder as many people as I'm inclined to. Which has amounted to a sum total of zero so far...

 

[Questioner]

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

"
Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children."


Fuk you, you stinking piece of shit!

I am so sick of fuking ignorant pieces of conservative crap like you making OUTRAGEOUS claims about EVIL BEHAVIOR of atheists simply because we are not stupid enough to believe in YOUR god.

YOU are the one who has made comments about MURDERING people simply for not embracing YOUR lunacies.

I don't believe in god.
That does NOT make me a murderer or a rapist you fukin lying sack of conservative crap.

Incedentaly... As an atheist; I rape, and murder as many people as I'm inclined to. Which has amounted to a sum total of zero so far...

Per psychologists, such as Phillip Zimbardo, even "normal" people, as opposed to better ones motivated by a higher life purpose or cause than mere fear of punishment, as is in the case of the fear, law-abiding immoral, who the law allows to exist despite having no morality of their own beyond mere fear of punishment and the law, even "normal" people, if in a bad situation could potentially do immoral things they normally wouldn't imagine themselves to do intentionally, such as if being instructed to torture prison inmates by an authority figure.

Part of this is because, as the common law rightfully documents and asserts, there are different factors in crime; such as "2nd degree murder", which is done in the heat of the moment, or by the "passions", as opposed to "1st degree murder", which is done methodically, rationally, intentionally.

 

[EvMetro]

I agree. Most of the Atheists I've known have come from theistic backgrounds; and walked when the tenants of faith failed the smell test...

Most of the atheists you have known are agnostic atheists. No faith required.

Wrong, Atheisism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Wrong if you oremus. Athiesm is the stance that tbr existence of a god/creator by theists, hasn't met the burden of proof required for all other beliefs.

Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children.

So by whatever axiom, whether it invokes a "god" or not, that they use to substantiate a belief in the wrongness or murder, rape, torture, or so forth, is their faith indeed.

"
Whatever else atheists believe in, is their faith - not the "lack of belief", or if they truly believe in "nothing" at all, they're a nihilist who would have no qualms about raping, murdering, torturing's children."


Fuk you, you stinking piece of shit!

I am so sick of fuking ignorant pieces of conservative crap like you making OUTRAGEOUS claims about EVIL BEHAVIOR of atheists simply because we are not stupid enough to believe in YOUR god.

YOU are the one who has made comments about MURDERING people simply for not embracing YOUR lunacies.

I don't believe in god.
That does NOT make me a murderer or a rapist you fukin lying sack of conservative crap.

Wow, you sure resent Christianity. When it comes to comparing legal vs illegal to right vs wrong, Christianity is the foundation of determining right vs wrong. Laws are in place to keep people like you from doing illegal things.

 

[alang1216]

Atheism is specifically faith that there are no deities.

Atheism for me is the conviction that I don't know if there is a creator and the certainty that neither does anyone else.