Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge

she's a white christian republican. that means she automatically racist. odd, isn't it?

No.

The fact that she signs a pledge that states that blacks had it better under slavery and she points out that "not all cultures are equal" makes her racist.

It's not at all odd.
Fact is, there is more violence against women in the present day than there was in 1918, before women could vote.

In your mind, my saying that means that I think women were better off when they couldn't vote.

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And let's still work at keeping this real. The pledge in no way said that blacks had it better under slavery. It said in effect that it is a sad thing that black children are more likely to be reared with a single parent now than was likely for a slave child. You might argue with the statistic. But no way that is a racist statement or an endorsement of slavery.

And all cultures are not equal. There is no way to say that a culture with a despotic tyrannical dictatorship in which citizens are routinely savaged, murdered, and terrorized is equal with an America, Canada, U.K., or pick your developed country of choice. There is no way to say that the culture of an inner city ghetto community in which most children live in poverty and never graduate highschool if they survive at all is equal to the culture of Mission Hills Kansas or Long Island or Fort Lauderdale or San Francisco. Nor does acknowledging that have anything to do with race.

And you're right that women were more protected in the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries than they are now. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the issue of suffrage and is not changed by the fact that women could not once vote.
 
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I'm a betting man sometimes..

You're a stupid man all the time....

And I am betting the "Turner Diaries" is your favorite book.

Is that a Harlequin romance?

My favorite book is "Man, Economy and State;" You've never heard of it.

If they would translate "Mein Kampf" to ebonics, you could have a favorite book too.....
 
This question is for those defending Bachmann and Santorum ( google it) for signing this...What was the point these people were trying to make in this "pledge", be it regarding slavery or the other "points"?
 
This question is for those defending Bachmann and Santorum ( google it) for signing this...What was the point these people were trying to make in this "pledge", be it regarding slavery or the other "points"?
It wasn't about slavery, dimwit.

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This question is for those defending Bachmann and Santorum ( google it) for signing this...What was the point these people were trying to make in this "pledge", be it regarding slavery or the other "points"?
It wasn't about slavery, dimwit.

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Didn't say it was ABOUT slavery, asshole...explain what their motivations were in bringing it up at all.
 
This question is for those defending Bachmann and Santorum ( google it) for signing this...What was the point these people were trying to make in this "pledge", be it regarding slavery or the other "points"?
It wasn't about slavery, dimwit.

:cuckoo:

Didn't say it was ABOUT slavery, asshole...explain what their motivations were in bringing it up at all.
Oh, you said it was "regarding slavery". Of course, that means something entirely different than "about slavery".

Idiot.
 
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Do you think a culture that supports slavery is equal to one that supports freedom for everyone? Can you point to exactly what she said in that video that makes her a racist? I listened to the whole video and heard nothing wrong with what she said, does that make me a racist?

I just did..the whole video is there for you to see.

She's a bigot and a racist.

Christianity is a culture that supports slavery. You won't hear me saying it's "unequal" to others.

She is talking about the culture of France, not Christianity. I guess that proves you didn't even watch the video you posted.
 
This question is for those defending Bachmann and Santorum ( google it) for signing this...What was the point these people were trying to make in this "pledge", be it regarding slavery or the other "points"?
It wasn't about slavery, dimwit.

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Didn't say it was ABOUT slavery, asshole...explain what their motivations were in bringing it up at all.

It's about her and her fellow far rightwing ilk who use and respond to such dog whistle racial division.

It also proves the woman has absolutely no class. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch. She's classless.
 
No. David Duke is the real deal. Signing this stupid thing doesn't make Bachmann a racist.

Apparently being a stupid Republican makes you a racist now.

No.

Signing racist pledges makes you a racist. Point out "all cultures are not equal" makes you a bigot.

And what's up with the ******* "pledges".

The only "pledge" that American politicians should concern themselves with is the pledge to uphold and defend the United States Constitution.

That's it.

Did David Duke put out a new pledge?
 
It wasn't about slavery, dimwit.

:cuckoo:

Didn't say it was ABOUT slavery, asshole...explain what their motivations were in bringing it up at all.
Oh, you said it was "regarding slavery". Of course, that means something entirely different than "about slavery".

Idiot.

Doushenozzle, I'm asking folks like you that are defending this, why slavery was mentioned at all. Seems like dog whistles to me...
 
Fact is, there is more violence against women in the present day than there was in 1918, before women could vote.

In your mind, my saying that means that I think women were better off when they couldn't vote.

:cuckoo:

Are you crazy?

There was massive violence against women.

It just wasn't reported.

Or even really recorded...with any sort of precision.
Assume it's true or at least assume that I believe it to be true (and I do). So, that's what I obviously mean, right? That women should no longer have the vote.

This is completely confusing.
 
Didn't say it was ABOUT slavery, asshole...explain what their motivations were in bringing it up at all.
Oh, you said it was "regarding slavery". Of course, that means something entirely different than "about slavery".

Idiot.

Doushenozzle, I'm asking folks like you that are defending this, why slavery was mentioned at all. Seems like dog whistles to me...
Because it was giving a time reference.

What a ******* moron you are.

My saying that there was much less violence against women before they had the vote than now means that I think women shouldn't have the vote to the idiots here.

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Are you crazy?

There was massive violence against women.

It just wasn't reported.

Or even really recorded...with any sort of precision.
Assume it's true or at least assume that I believe it to be true (and I do). So, that's what I obviously mean, right? That women should no longer have the vote.

This is completely confusing.
I understand completely why it does confuse you.
 
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Assume it's true or at least assume that I believe it to be true (and I do). So, that's what I obviously mean, right? That women should no longer have the vote.

This is completely confusing.
I understand completely why it does confuse you.

Well then maybe you want to clarify your post.

Why the heck would you put up that there should be voter suppression?

Are you agreeing with me?

Or is this something out of left field.

I made a pretty plain assertion that violence against women was under reported...something you seemed to agree with..

Then..you came up with the woman's suffrage thing.

You should know..that I completely agree that women are equal Americans. And should have the rights of all Americans.
 
I grew up in the 60s. I've seen racism first hand.

You?

I have seen it, and experienced it. Guess what, you are one of the people that help racism survive by diluting what it actually is.

"Diluting" it?

How exactly?

Conservatism was on the forefront of maintaining racists mores.

Still are..

It was actually unions that pushed for the laws that discriminated on the basis of race, but thanks for playing.
 
Do you think a culture that supports slavery is equal to one that supports freedom for everyone? Can you point to exactly what she said in that video that makes her a racist? I listened to the whole video and heard nothing wrong with what she said, does that make me a racist?

I just did..the whole video is there for you to see.

She's a bigot and a racist.

Christianity is a culture that supports slavery. You won't hear me saying it's "unequal" to others.

She is talking about the culture of France, not Christianity. I guess that proves you didn't even watch the video you posted.

No.

This proves you didn't understand my post.

Christianity advocates for slavery.

What part of that don't you get.
 
I have seen it, and experienced it. Guess what, you are one of the people that help racism survive by diluting what it actually is.

"Diluting" it?

How exactly?

Conservatism was on the forefront of maintaining racists mores.

Still are..

It was actually unions that pushed for the laws that discriminated on the basis of race, but thanks for playing.

Well you might be right.

And you might want to link which unions did that.
 

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