Bachmann signs The Family Lead pledge

[Si modo]

Edited the OP to include the following update:

OPINION: Relax. Bachmann Didn't Pledge To Ban Pornography* - News - Talk Radio News Service: News, Politics, Media

When reached for comment, Bob Vander Plaats, the organization’s president, appeared surprised that the language has been interpreted as a call to outlaw adult entertainment.

“We are not calling for a nationwide band on pornography,” Vander Plaats said during a phone interview. “The bullet point doesn’t even come close to calling for that.”

Vander Plaats explained that the language was meant to imply opposition to women being forced into pornography or prostitution, a far cry from the Think Progress headline: BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

Yeah, 17 hrs later. Nice that you have that option and it doesn't even tell us when your edit was.

Did you also delete the posts where you look like an idiot?

 

[Trajan]

Edited the OP to include the following update:

OPINION: Relax. Bachmann Didn't Pledge To Ban Pornography* - News - Talk Radio News Service: News, Politics, Media

When reached for comment, Bob Vander Plaats, the organization’s president, appeared surprised that the language has been interpreted as a call to outlaw adult entertainment.

“We are not calling for a nationwide band on pornography,” Vander Plaats said during a phone interview. “The bullet point doesn’t even come close to calling for that.”

Vander Plaats explained that the language was meant to imply opposition to women being forced into pornography or prostitution, a far cry from the Think Progress headline: BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

Yeah, 17 hrs later. Nice that you have that option and it doesn't even tell us when your edit was.

Did you also delete the posts where you look like an idiot?

thats not an update either. an update is , well at least imho, when you get new information unavailable at the time of posting....but thats just me.

 

[Susan45]

This is my favorite part of the pledge:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA‟s first African-American President."

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_marriage.html

This is just mind boggling and has swept through the black blogs. Here is one response, part of which I found hilarious.

To the extent that the black family was even allowed to exist, it was under constant attack by state-supported and sanctioned terrorism. "A child born into slavery was more likely to be raised by his mother and father..." Really? A child born into slavery was the property of its master. The operative word was slavery. Period. Any relationship to its biological parents was far less respected than its commercial relationship to the American economy.

Why stop at two-parent households? Let's celebrate the free housing, healthcare and meal plan offered to every black slave! You know what else slavery did for black people? Exercise! Oh it was just great! We even got to work outside. Speaking of work, today, African-American unemployment is over 16 percent. In Milwauke, Wisc., over one-third of black men are unemployed. But during slavery times, every black man had a job! See? Things were better in the past, and now things are bad. Ah, the good old days...

Michelle Bachmann is running for president on a pro-slavery, anti-porn platform? - Blog - baratunde.com

 

[Trajan]

i was not talking to you, but to jarhead.
i also did not mention banning anything.
you can continue pissing in the wind, caesar.

do you mean Kaiser?

no, but kaiser is derived from caesar as is czar.

trajan was a caesar.

the poster who poses as trajan via handle and avatar, however, is just a blimp.

ahhhhhh tsk tsk. jerkoffitis....it may treatable, you should check.

its Zeppelin bozo,,,

 

[Stephanie]

This thread was a perfect example of dirty politics.

Post something about someone that smears them, then turn around and post a update that isn't what they meant..

 

[Trajan]

This is my favorite part of the pledge:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA‟s first African-American President."

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_marriage.html

This is just mind boggling and has swept through the black blogs. Here is one response, part of which I found hilarious.

To the extent that the black family was even allowed to exist, it was under constant attack by state-supported and sanctioned terrorism. "A child born into slavery was more likely to be raised by his mother and father..." Really? A child born into slavery was the property of its master. The operative word was slavery. Period. Any relationship to its biological parents was far less respected than its commercial relationship to the American economy.

Why stop at two-parent households? Let's celebrate the free housing, healthcare and meal plan offered to every black slave! You know what else slavery did for black people? Exercise! Oh it was just great! We even got to work outside. Speaking of work, today, African-American unemployment is over 16 percent. In Milwauke, Wisc., over one-third of black men are unemployed. But during slavery times, every black man had a job! See? Things were better in the past, and now things are bad. Ah, the good old days...

Michelle Bachmann is running for president on a pro-slavery, anti-porn*platform? - Blog - baratunde.com

here, have a party-

The Moynihan Report (1965) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

 

[Salt Jones]

This is my favorite part of the pledge:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA‟s first African-American President."

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_marriage.html

This is just mind boggling and has swept through the black blogs. Here is one response, part of which I found hilarious.

To the extent that the black family was even allowed to exist, it was under constant attack by state-supported and sanctioned terrorism. "A child born into slavery was more likely to be raised by his mother and father..." Really? A child born into slavery was the property of its master. The operative word was slavery. Period. Any relationship to its biological parents was far less respected than its commercial relationship to the American economy.

Why stop at two-parent households? Let's celebrate the free housing, healthcare and meal plan offered to every black slave! You know what else slavery did for black people? Exercise! Oh it was just great! We even got to work outside. Speaking of work, today, African-American unemployment is over 16 percent. In Milwauke, Wisc., over one-third of black men are unemployed. But during slavery times, every black man had a job! See? Things were better in the past, and now things are bad. Ah, the good old days...

Michelle Bachmann is running for president on a pro-slavery, anti-porn*platform? - Blog - baratunde.com

read this analysis:

Michele Bachmann | Marriage Vow | Slavery | Mediaite

To be fair, The Marriage Vow doesn’t appear to be arguing that slavery was good (hey, they said it was “disastrous”), but rather, that Barack Obama is worse than slavery. That’s a key difference that needs to be highlighted. Besides, they used a footnote to a study by black scholars, so shouldn’t Jill just relax a little?

For my money, this is where the story gets really disgusting. The study that they cite was published in 2005, which means that any comparison to slavery must be made, not with our first black president, but with our 43rd white one. Furthermore, the data in the study only dates back to 1880, which means they not only had to stretch their pretzel to include Barack Obama, but also to conflate the data with slavery. They appear to be basing their conclusion on these two points from the study:

…in 1880 and 1910 about 56.3 percent of Black and 66.9 percent of White households were nuclear households…(page 8)
According to the latest data, only 35 percent of Black children live with married parents whereas 76 percent of White children do. (page 9)
Any nuclear households in 1880 would have contained exactly zero children “born into slavery in 1860,” or out of slavery, because they would all have been 20 years old by then. This is important, because it demonstrates a specific intent, not just to make a revoltingly stupid comparison between the slave era and the present day (black homelessness was probably lower in slave states, too), but to tie that comparison to our first black president.

 

[Foxfyre]

IMO, it would be a tough task to judge whether ThinkProgress or Media Matters are more dishonest in their portrayal of anybody and/or the positions that they take. Each gives just enough of the truth to point to in order to authenticate themselves,and distorts or leaves out enough critical components of a truth to sucker the most gullible among us.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

 

[Salt Jones]

This is my favorite part of the pledge:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA‟s first African-American President."

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_marriage.html

This is just mind boggling and has swept through the black blogs. Here is one response, part of which I found hilarious.

To the extent that the black family was even allowed to exist, it was under constant attack by state-supported and sanctioned terrorism. "A child born into slavery was more likely to be raised by his mother and father..." Really? A child born into slavery was the property of its master. The operative word was slavery. Period. Any relationship to its biological parents was far less respected than its commercial relationship to the American economy.

Why stop at two-parent households? Let's celebrate the free housing, healthcare and meal plan offered to every black slave! You know what else slavery did for black people? Exercise! Oh it was just great! We even got to work outside. Speaking of work, today, African-American unemployment is over 16 percent. In Milwauke, Wisc., over one-third of black men are unemployed. But during slavery times, every black man had a job! See? Things were better in the past, and now things are bad. Ah, the good old days...

Michelle Bachmann is running for president on a pro-slavery, anti-porn*platform? - Blog - baratunde.com

here, have a party-

The Moynihan Report (1965) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

So you agree with the pledge's statement concerning slavery and black kids? You see that is the argument, but you try to divert with the Moynihan report.

 

[Salt Jones]

IMO, it would be a tough task to judge whether ThinkProgress or Media Matters are more dishonest in their portrayal of anybody and/or the positions that they take. Each gives just enough of the truth to point to in order to authenticate themselves,and distorts or leaves out enough critical components of a truth to sucker the most gullible among us.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

By signing the statement does she agree that black kids were better off in 1860?

 

[elvis]

Edited the OP to include the following update:

OPINION: Relax. Bachmann Didn't Pledge To Ban Pornography* - News - Talk Radio News Service: News, Politics, Media

When reached for comment, Bob Vander Plaats, the organization’s president, appeared surprised that the language has been interpreted as a call to outlaw adult entertainment.

“We are not calling for a nationwide band on pornography,” Vander Plaats said during a phone interview. “The bullet point doesn’t even come close to calling for that.”

Vander Plaats explained that the language was meant to imply opposition to women being forced into pornography or prostitution, a far cry from the Think Progress headline: BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

Yeah, 17 hrs later. Nice that you have that option and it doesn't even tell us when your edit was.

Did you also delete the posts where you look like an idiot?

He hasn't deleted any posts. he edited the first post and said which portions were edits.

 

[Foxfyre]

IMO, it would be a tough task to judge whether ThinkProgress or Media Matters are more dishonest in their portrayal of anybody and/or the positions that they take. Each gives just enough of the truth to point to in order to authenticate themselves,and distorts or leaves out enough critical components of a truth to sucker the most gullible among us.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

By signing the statement does she agree that black kids were better off in 1860?

I don't think she would say that and I don't think the pledge even suggests that. But I'm pretty sure that she would say a black child needs a mother and father in the home as much as any child needs that and that progressive policies have created an environment denying that to millions of black children as well as consigning them to generation after generation of crushing poverty and permanent unemployment. She has probably read the works of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Shelby Steele, and other dedicated black historians.

 

[Kuros]

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

Sour grapes.

This is the American vetting process. It is that befitting a free people deciding who shall become their Caesar: criticism errs on the side of brutally piercing. Bachmann is not getting special mistreatment.

I honestly find her views to be gross and insane on the merits. She thinks homosexuality is a credible threat to the Republic. She thinks pornography should be made illegal. She has none of the economic conservative inclinations of the Tea Party, and in fact is a fraud: she worked as a tax lawyer for the IRS!

I don't want a social con for President. I want an economic con who will protect civil liberties.

 

[Jack Fate]

I think it's a compliment...HE wouldn't. And Michelle "I've been trapped in a bathroom by marauding lesbians" Bachmman would be apoplectic.

So, you WERE complimenting Bachmann and her husband.




Yup, I predicted the lie.

Bitter dyke.

I was simply stating that the homophobic Bachmman family are throwing stones from a house made of glass. The only bitterness seems to be your own.

That horrible Bachmann family. They're just a bunch of poopy pants. Right?

 

[Jack Fate]

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

Sour grapes.

This is the American vetting process. It is that befitting a free people deciding who shall become their Caesar: criticism errs on the side of brutally piercing. Bachmann is not getting special mistreatment.

It's too bad the left didn't vet their President. Do you think they will this time?

 

[Salt Jones]

IMO, it would be a tough task to judge whether ThinkProgress or Media Matters are more dishonest in their portrayal of anybody and/or the positions that they take. Each gives just enough of the truth to point to in order to authenticate themselves,and distorts or leaves out enough critical components of a truth to sucker the most gullible among us.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

By signing the statement does she agree that black kids were better off in 1860?

I don't think she would say that and I don't think the pledge even suggests that. But I'm pretty sure that she would say a black child needs a mother and father in the home as much as any child needs that and that progressive policies have created an environment denying that to millions of black children as well as consigning them to generation after generation of crushing poverty and permanent unemployment. She has probably read the works of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Shelby Steele, and other dedicated black historians.

This is what the pledge says:

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an AfricanAmerican baby born after the election of the USA‟s first African-American President."

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM187_marriage.html

By signing the pledge isn't she agreeing with the statement?

 

[Si modo]

Edited the OP to include the following update:

OPINION: Relax. Bachmann Didn't Pledge To Ban Pornography* - News - Talk Radio News Service: News, Politics, Media

Yeah, 17 hrs later. Nice that you have that option and it doesn't even tell us when your edit was.

Did you also delete the posts where you look like an idiot?

He hasn't deleted any posts. he edited the first post and said which portions were edits.

And, it's nice that he has that option 17 hours later, as I said.
And, cool. His idiotic posts are still here.

 

[Salt Jones]

Yeah, 17 hrs later. Nice that you have that option and it doesn't even tell us when your edit was.

Did you also delete the posts where you look like an idiot?

He hasn't deleted any posts. he edited the first post and said which portions were edits.

And, it's nice that he has that option 17 hours later, as I said.
And, cool. His idiotic posts are still here.

By signing the pledge isn't Michele Bachman agreeing with the slavery/black child statement?

 

[Salt Jones]

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Michelle Bachmann could be judged on her views honestly presented in their entirety and not on distorted versions of those views or that she is a Christian or a woman or a conservative or a Republican or a Tea Party darling or, God forbid, all of those things.

Sour grapes.

This is the American vetting process. It is that befitting a free people deciding who shall become their Caesar: criticism errs on the side of brutally piercing. Bachmann is not getting special mistreatment.

It's too bad the left didn't vet their President. Do you think they will this time?

By signing the pledge isn't Michele Bachman agreeing with the slavery/black child statement?

 

[Si modo]

He hasn't deleted any posts. he edited the first post and said which portions were edits.

And, it's nice that he has that option 17 hours later, as I said.
And, cool. His idiotic posts are still here.

By signing the pledge isn't Michele Bachman agreeing with the slavery/black child statement?

I agree with it, too, because it's a fact. More black kids had both their parents present in their lives than they do now.

That is probably true for white kids, too.

Do you think that is not true?