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Australia comes to a stark realization: It must fend off China
Reuters spoke to 19 current and former Australian government officials and two former prime ministers to track how relations with China have deteriorated



china would love to have more control over the Island nation and it is doing it .


China is seeking to 'take over' Australia's political system, former Asio chief claims

Duncan Lewis says Chinese authorities are using espionage and foreign interference to gain influence

 

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Australia comes to a stark realization: It must fend off China
Reuters spoke to 19 current and former Australian government officials and two former prime ministers to track how relations with China have deteriorated



china would love to have more control over the Island nation and it is doing it .


China is seeking to 'take over' Australia's political system, former Asio chief claims

Duncan Lewis says Chinese authorities are using espionage and foreign interference to gain influence






Yup. Anyone with a brain has been watching and warning for well over a decade now.
 

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The only question is: which would a Xi/Biden/Harris Administration surrender to China first, Australia or the USA?
 

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I read about the Fentanyl crisis Chinese have exported to Australia. Same in America. And the Chinese owned democratic party/media that sponsors civil and racial unrest in the states, well, they aren't to keen on questioning their bosses in Beijing. But they can point out police shootings and Trump's faults all day long. This election on November 2nd, if Trump wins, the Chinese overlords of the liberals democrats won't stand for that, so...ya know, riots, outrages...More civil unrest.
 

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Reuters spoke to 19 current and former Australian gun control officials and two former prime ministers to track how relations with China have deteriorated ... Duncan Lewis says Chinese authorities are using espionage and foreign interference to gain influence
Or did I misquote?
 

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Australia could turn a negative into a positive & make alot of money in the process.

Open Australia up to US mining companies for rare earth elements.

Most of those currently come from china & the USA would consider it a matter of national security and protect australia in the process.
 

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Australia could turn a negative into a positive & make alot of money in the process.

Open Australia up to US mining companies for rare earth elements.

Most of those currently come from china & the USA would consider it a matter of national security and protect australia in the process.



Yup, guess who has the concession....feinsteins husband.
 

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They have begun to expel Chinese that have infiltrated their universities.
 
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I read about the Fentanyl crisis Chinese have exported to Australia. Same in America. And the Chinese owned democratic party/media that sponsors civil and racial unrest in the states, well, they aren't to keen on questioning their bosses in Beijing. But they can point out police shootings and Trump's faults all day long. This election on November 2nd, if Trump wins, the Chinese overlords of the liberals democrats won't stand for that, so...ya know, riots, outrages...More civil unrest.
the election is on the 3 not the second
 
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Australia could turn a negative into a positive & make alot of money in the process.

Open Australia up to US mining companies for rare earth elements.

Most of those currently come from china & the USA would consider it a matter of national security and protect australia in the process.
I think there is a deal in the works already where they will ship to Texas for processing guess the Aussies can do it themself
 

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Australia could turn a negative into a positive & make alot of money in the process.

Open Australia up to US mining companies for rare earth elements.

Most of those currently come from china & the USA would consider it a matter of national security and protect australia in the process.
We are debating this right now, we seem to have a huge rare earth element potential.

Normally we sell to the highest bidder but we are talking about national security issues with this resource and may pick and choose who we let mine or sell to.
 

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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China, indeed we have a trade surplus with them. (A lot of our agriculture too goes to China as does America's for that matter.)

But Iron ore is really dependent on China.

The other is university education. Aussie students get university at very low cost because the government acts as the loan authority and regulates universities from charging too much however universities make a huge profit from Chinese students who they charge an arm and a won ton to attend.

And there is a huge demand from wealthy Chinese families to attend Aussie universities.

This has been a massive money maker.

If that dries up our universities are going to be cutting back big time.
 

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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).
 

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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
 
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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
yea blame the usa for your government standing tall like a real man would , sounds like the australian commie who blamed everything on America
 

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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
yea blame the usa for your government standing tall like a real man would , sounds like the australian commie who blamed everything on America
What are you slobbering about Bob?

Get a rabies shot.
 
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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
yea blame the usa for your government standing tall like a real man would , sounds like the australian commie who blamed everything on America
What are you slobbering about Bob?

Get a rabies shot.
your tryi g to blame your problems with china on America instead of being a real man and accepting responsibility , just another fine example of why I dislike Australians . just like the Australian commie who supported china and Iran and Russia and always took their side over his own nation
 

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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
yea blame the usa for your government standing tall like a real man would , sounds like the australian commie who blamed everything on America
What are you slobbering about Bob?

Get a rabies shot.
your tryi g to blame your problems with china on America instead of being a real man and accepting responsibility , just another fine example of why I dislike Australians . just like the Australian commie who supported china and Iran and Russia and always took their side over his own nation

Bob, international relations is not the WWF, it is not about blame.

It is about calculations and consequences.

We have a strategic alliance with the USA, now Japan, a growing one with India with the goal to contain Chinese military expansion, most importantly in the South China Sea.

Yet our most important market is China (we are the only Western nation to have a trade surplus with them), China knows this and so will turn the screws on trade trying to drive a wedge in that US alliance. China is also upset because Australia was the first nation to call for a global investigation into how the virus took off, which of course would have to focus most of all on China.

So China sends some signals think about what you are doing.

Like barely and beef export restrictions.

This is why our trade policy is now to diversify to other nations, Japan, Indonesia and India.


Now I know in Trump's America everything is a bout a primitive grunting insult or accusation, but the calculations of foreign policy and trade are more complex.
 
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We have two giant economic problems concerning China, our iron ore is a massive economic driver for us and it goes mostly to China,
China can keep getting your iron...Minnesota has the best in the world & lots of it...but we need the REE's.

We'd give you a fair price & protect you from china (as long as your politicians aren't dealing with china behind our backs...we have enough of that to deal with right here at home).

We are in a period of political disagreement with China, mostly because we back the USA concerning the South China Sea, and were the first country to call for an investigation about the pandemic, but our iron or production is indispensable to China so they are not playing games with it.

Indeed their imports are skyrocketing, it is why we are the first Western country to get our of recession in this pandemic.

My hunch is however they are stockpiling iron ore and when Brazil recovers, the only real country that can compete with Australia on iron ore export recovers from their pandemic collapse, China in future will then turn the screws.

Hence we are seeking to diversify our trade at break neck speed, we already have a free trade agreement with the USA and we are ever expanding our access to Japan which we just signed trade deal with and India.

Indonesia too will be critical for our beef exports.
yea blame the usa for your government standing tall like a real man would , sounds like the australian commie who blamed everything on America
What are you slobbering about Bob?

Get a rabies shot.
your tryi g to blame your problems with china on America instead of being a real man and accepting responsibility , just another fine example of why I dislike Australians . just like the Australian commie who supported china and Iran and Russia and always took their side over his own nation

Bob, international relations is not the WWF, it is not about blame.

It is about calculations and consequences.

We have a strategic alliance with the USA, now Japan, a growing one with India with the goal to contain Chinese military expansion, most importantly in the South China Sea.

Yet our most important market is China (we are the only Western nation to have a trade surplus with them), China knows this and so will turn the screws on trade trying to drive a wedge in that US alliance. China is also upset because Australia was the first nation to call for a global investigation into how the virus took off, which of course would have to focus most of all on China.

So China sends some signals think about what you are doing.

Like barely and beef export restrictions.

This is why our trade policy is now to diversify to other nations, Japan, Indonesia and India.


Now I know in Trump's America everything is a bout a primitive grunting insult or accusation, but the calculations of foreign policy and trade are more complex.

well you blamed the usa for your problem with china didnt you ,own up to your own words like a real man if you can, if not shut up till you become a man
 

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