RetiredGySgt
Diamond Member
Actually since the Marines bail out the Army all the time we stay near to protect you from yourself.
Attn: Veterans
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daveman
Diamond Member
My Dad was Underwater Demolitions in the Navy in WWII. He said the Army would clear an island of Japanese troops in a couple of weeks, and afterwards you could have a picnic anywhere on the island in perfect safety.
The Marines would clear an island in 2 days -- but guys would be picked off by snipers for months afterward.
RoccoR
Gold Member
RE: Attn: Veterans
⁜→ Gunny, et al,
BLUF: The thought is great, but not as easy as it seems.
This is a very tall order giver the length and breadth of the Defense Issues of the day. What the nation funds, the priorities the line items are assigned, how it imposes and implements policy often becomes entangled in the Congressional whirlwinds that traverse the marbled hallways of power in the capitol.
If we truly discuss contemporary defense and military topics, we are bound to have disagreements; some experiential, some technical, and some on matters related to personnel (training, care, and feeding).
Just My Thought,
Most Respectfully,
R
⁜→ Gunny, et al,
BLUF: The thought is great, but not as easy as it seems.
(COMMENT)
This is a very tall order giver the length and breadth of the Defense Issues of the day. What the nation funds, the priorities the line items are assigned, how it imposes and implements policy often becomes entangled in the Congressional whirlwinds that traverse the marbled hallways of power in the capitol.
If we truly discuss contemporary defense and military topics, we are bound to have disagreements; some experiential, some technical, and some on matters related to personnel (training, care, and feeding).
◈ EXAMPLE:
I remember back in the day, when the dual compensation issues were discussed, and it was decided that careerist that were disabled BEFORE reaching 20 years (injury caused them to be medical retention boarded out) would not get both DOD retired pay and their VA disability. It was decided that they would have to forfeit one or the other. But those that walked-out the door AFTER 20 years would get both. Now that got heated.
My point is, the critical topics on congressional, defense, and military discussions can get political.Just My Thought,
Most Respectfully,
R
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Just curious did you vote for trump?
Blenda
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Yes, but the Democrats running my state erased me from the voter rolls immediately after the election so I doubt my vote was counted.
Mushroom
Gold Member
This is a thread for us to identify ourselves. How about leaving the BS politics out of it? How anybody votes is really their own business, and nobody elses.
Branch: Army Signal Corps
Date/s: 1963-1966
Rank: SP5, E-5
Unit: 362nd Signal Company, Danang VN [Aug 1964-Aug 1965].
Other info: Also stationed at Ft Ord, CA [basic training], Ft Monmouth, NJ [Microwave Radio Repair school], Dominican Republic, [6 months in 1966] Ft Lewis, WA
Date/s: 1963-1966
Rank: SP5, E-5
Unit: 362nd Signal Company, Danang VN [Aug 1964-Aug 1965].
Other info: Also stationed at Ft Ord, CA [basic training], Ft Monmouth, NJ [Microwave Radio Repair school], Dominican Republic, [6 months in 1966] Ft Lewis, WA
Rust_Cohle
Diamond Member
Branch : U.S. Army
Rank : Spc
Dates : 04 - 06, MEB. Civilian Recruiter 06-07
Duty Station : Ft. Polk
Current Status : 100% T&P
MOS - 52c (never saw a heat or AC unit whole time I was in except once in FTX)
Secondary - 63b
Rank : Spc
Dates : 04 - 06, MEB. Civilian Recruiter 06-07
Duty Station : Ft. Polk
Current Status : 100% T&P
MOS - 52c (never saw a heat or AC unit whole time I was in except once in FTX)
Secondary - 63b
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RoccoR
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Rust_Cohle
Diamond Member
(COMMENT)
Thanks for becoming a member.
Most Respectfully,
R
Thanks for having me. My military career wasn't as long as I hoped. I let them operate on me which they said would be "routine" and instead left me cripple for 15 years. Thanks to the MISSION ACT I could finally go outside the VA and get it fixed that was 2019.
RoccoR
Gold Member
(COMMENT)
I know what you mean. I am at 70%, but not really. I am not allowed to receive any more than what my Army Medical Retirement pay would amount to. So every pay period, the Army sends me a bill for the overpayment the VA makes. I had my Medical Board in 1988. I thought the Army was doing me a favor by placing me on the Permanent Retired List, but it turns out, that is not so.
Anyway, hope you are doing a little bit better every day.
Most Respectfully,
R
Rust_Cohle
Diamond Member
Is that 70% for one condition or two?(COMMENT)
I know what you mean. I am at 70%, but not really. I am not allowed to receive any more than what my Army Medical Retirement pay would amount to. So every pay period, the Army sends me a bill for the overpayment the VA makes. I had my Medical Board in 1988. I thought the Army was doing me a favor by placing me on the Permanent Retired List, but it turns out, that is not so.
Anyway, hope you are doing a little bit better every day.
Most Respectfully,
R
If you have one at 70% you can file Total Disability to Individual Unemployability and get paid at 100% and the VA will treat you like a T&P 100%
RoccoR
Gold Member
(COMMENT)
Well, there are a couple little things included, but as you know, in the VA 10% + 10% does not equal 20%. But the reason I don't get 100% is that:
VA Payment - Retired Pay = Debt to the Army
So, if (as an example just to make the numbers easy) the VA were to pay me $1000/mo but my Retired Pay would only amount to $600/mo then I have to pay the Army back $400.
So in my case, no matter how much the VA would award me, the Army gets it. I have to pay for my VA Disability. The advantage is, my VA is tax-free.
This is a sleight of hand that Congress pulled.
Most Respectfully,
R
Rust_Cohle
Diamond Member
Holy shit. I was wondering about that if DoD offsets VA pay. Thanks for letting me know(COMMENT)
Well, there are a couple little things included, but as you know, in the VA 10% + 10% does not equal 20%. But the reason I don't get 100% is that:
VA Payment - Retired Pay = Debt to the Army
So, if (as an example just to make the numbers easy) the VA were to pay me $1000/mo but my Retired Pay would only amount to $600/mo then I have to pay the Army back $400.
So in my case, no matter how much the VA would award me, the Army gets it. I have to pay for my VA Disability. The advantage is, my VA is tax-free.
This is a sleight of hand that Congress pulled.
Most Respectfully,
R
RetiredGySgt
Diamond Member
That's not how it works elect to receive VA and no retirement. My retirement is 1300 my VA is 3000 I receive VA not retirement
RoccoR
Gold Member
(COMMENT)
There is no offset pay if you served 20 years or more. You get both your retired pay and VA Disability.
But if you are like me, Line-of-Duty disability at 16 years (E-7), there is a bill.
Most Respectfully,
R
RetiredGySgt
Diamond Member
Talk to DAV you are getting ripped off.
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