Attempted coup d' etat underway in Venezuela.

[MisterBeale]

I usually say we should mind our own business, but if we don't take control of Venezuela China, Russia, or Iran will. Isolation policy would have us surrounded by our enemies. Only thing left is the military option. We need to take Maduro out.

That's been our excuse for decades.
"If we don't screw them over Russia will. "
It doesn't fly anymore Skippy.
The cat's out of the bag and the world's watching.

Russia and China are there buddying up to Maduro. He's broke, desperate. It is easy to imagine this becoming a puppet state to one of them. We don't want them in this neighborhood.

Why do you always just believe what ever that corporate TEE VEE tell you?

 

[OldLady]

I usually say we should mind our own business, but if we don't take control of Venezuela China, Russia, or Iran will. Isolation policy would have us surrounded by our enemies. Only thing left is the military option. We need to take Maduro out.

That's been our excuse for decades.
"If we don't screw them over Russia will. "
It doesn't fly anymore Skippy.
The cat's out of the bag and the world's watching.

Russia and China are there buddying up to Maduro. He's broke, desperate. It is easy to imagine this becoming a puppet state to one of them. We don't want them in this neighborhood.

Why do you always just believe what ever that corporate TEE VEE tell you?

Looking at this situation through the prism of class warfare does not make my view invalid, either.

 

[Aba Incieni]

The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US
The Tragedy of Venezuela is the Tragedy of the US

". . . . Knowing as well that Trump did not give a farthing for what happened in Venezuela but was concentrated on what he is always focused on, domestic politics, I knew these underlings would be allowed to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war in Venezuela so long as doing it secured Florida’s electoral votes for Trump in 2020.

What I did not know – but looking back to 2002, should have – is how utterly incompetent the CIA would be in pulling off the “soft coup d’etat” that its leaders promised Trump. The events of the past 48 hours have demonstrated that incompetence markedly, as well as the real motivations of Trump’s lackeys on Venezuela, from the shrimp-lusting-after-Cuba Marco Rubio to the bombastic former governor of Florida Rick Scott, to the pardoned criminal Abrams, to the supine and totally incompetent Juan Guaido and his backer, Leopoldo Lopez in Caracas. What a crew the GOP can muster!

And they just might have let slip the dogs of war.

And they let them slip into a potentially first-class disaster – just like Somalia in 1992, Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011, Syria in 2012, Afghanistan today and yesterday, and on and on.


Venezuelan military. (Telesur)

I know the Venezuelan military; I’ve trained some of them. They are not your usual “I want to shower after meeting them” crowd, as I would describe for instance the Honduran military. Instead, they are reasonably professional, reasonably aware of Venezuela’s historical commitment to democracy, and reasonably competent at their day jobs. They are proud of the fact that they are not Panama, i.e., a country into which the U.S. can send paratroopers overnight, kill several thousands, grab a narco-trafficker, and leave. . . . "


Larry Wilkerson is a retired colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), and former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell.

The tragedy of Venezuela is that they voted in a Socialist who promptly sank the most successful economy in South America, and took away their guns so all they had was rocks to throw at armored vehicles.

Maybe Trump should send them pallets full of unmarked cash in the middle of the night.

You know, I have looked all over the internet to find out if it was Chavez, Maduro, or the legislature that banned guns. I can't find that move anywhere.

Every report I get is just, "the government banned civilian ownership of guns. . "




PROVE that the people's representatives, like the ones in Australia, didn't do that to themselves.


SECOND, the Venezuelan economy was only working for the richest 10 percent of all of the nation. It didn't do anything for the poor and middle class.

All indices of development, from infant mortality, to literacy, to percentage of poverty have all risen since the advent of Chavezism. What does it matter how the economy works if the nation, the majority, is poor, starving, dying and suffering? What do they care?

Why do you think Maduro won the election by a larger margin, has more support than Trump, and the PM's of France, Britain, or Germany? . . . or just about any other nation you care to name.

It is NOT up to us to interfere in their internal politics. If Venuezuala was allowed to trade with the rest of the world, I am sure they would have no trouble. But they are defying the IMF, the world bank, and the globalist business cabal.

How did Venezuela change under Hugo Chávez?

The Roots of Venezuela's Economic Crisis

One search was all it took.

Venezuela bans private gun owners
Another gun ban, another bad outcome: Venezuela homicide rate rose after 2012 ban on private ownership of guns - Crime Prevention Research Center
https://truthmegasite.com/venezuela-bans-private-gun-ownership/
Venezuela: Chavez Bans Gun Ownership And Firearms Sales – OpEd
Venezuela bans civilians from private gun ownership

 

[Aletheia4u]

seems you are the one that is so concerned about YOUR beloved Venezuela

I'm thinking you must be the one with the plane ticket for Caracas

LOFL ...........

I "love" Venezuela as much as all the members of the EU and OAS (who all call for Maduro the butcher to step down).

No need to stretch your overworked little mind out of shape trying to figure a way you can demonize my position on Venezuela. Your friend Vlad Putin (he must be your friend since he wants to prop up the butcher) is the only thing keeping the socialist government of Maduro standing.
He's a socialist authoritarian dictator (like Vlad) and he's bad for all the states in the region. With a puppet government in Venezuela all states there are in danger of destabilization and Putin's reach will be that much greater.

But on top of that there are all the humanitarian considerations which I know you really don't care about. You are the one in favor of a brutal dictatorship, after all. Don't worry about why I think Venezuela is worth saving. I have many good reasons one of those being you want the opposite outcome and to see the nation stay miserable and starving to death.

Think about that while you are sucking Danny Glover's penis.

Putin? That is Trump's butt buddy; they are BFF. Didn't you know? LOFL .......

How would you know anything about Danny Glover's penis?
You should keep your fantasies off the forum Mr. Ruby Lipps. LOFL ........

Because the Globalist are afraid if Pres.Trump joins forces with Putin. Doesn't means that we should hate Putin. The Globalist just wants to harvest organs.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Good,

Fire up the helicopters and get rid of some commies!!!

There's nothing good about this for anyone .
It's more empire fun and games by our shadow govt.

It’s apparently easier to install a puppet regime in Venezuela in order to resume Venezuelan oil production than it is to get democrats in Oregon and California to cooperate.

The only thing standing in the way of increased production is US sanctions.

Wrong.
It is the failed socialist government standing in the way

 

[Soupnazi630]

Sanctions are the right of a sovereign nation they are not an act of war.

So don't call it war.
Call it a deliberate act of aggression against the population of a sovereign nation.
The death toll is still the same.

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

You're confused about how sanctions that target one sector responsible for more than 90% of Venezuela's revenues will kill citizens of that country?

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality.

"We speak with Jeffrey Sachs in our New York studio. In the report, he writes, 'American sanctions are deliberately aiming to wreck Venezuela’s economy and thereby lead to regime change. It’s a fruitless, heartless, illegal, and failed policy, causing grave harm to the Venezuelan people.'"

500,000 Dead Children Haunt Madeleine Albright – Jacob G. Hornberger –

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

US sanctions caused those deaths, just like they did in Iraq twenty years ago:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"t started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation.

"That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control.

"And then, in this year, with this idea, very naive, very stupid, in my view, that there would be this self-proclaimed president, which was all choreographed with the United States very, very closely, another round of even tighter sanctions, essentially confiscating the earnings and the assets of the Venezuelan government, took place."

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I know the Venezuelan military; I’ve trained some of them. They are not your usual “I want to shower after meeting them” crowd, as I would describe for instance the Honduran military. Instead, they are reasonably professional, reasonably aware of Venezuela’s historical commitment to democracy, and reasonably competent at their day jobs. They are proud of the fact that they are not Panama, i.e., a country into which the U.S. can send paratroopers overnight, kill several thousands, grab a narco-trafficker, and leave. . . . "

The Venezuelan military is so committed to democracy and professional they are keeping a butcher and dictator in office as they beat, shoot and simply drive over citizens of Venezuela that want their nightmare to end as their nation has become a dystopic dysfunctional authoritarian hell hole.

 

[Grumblenuts]

a dystopic dysfunctional authoritarian hell hole.

Your warmongering brain perhaps experiencing withdrawal symptoms including flatulent hallucinations.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

This is why we often hear from folks here on USMB, "I am from Venezuela, or I heard from someone down there. . . etc." Notice they are always fluent in English? Notice they always have enough privilege to be able to talk with someone in the states?

No one every even questions the narrative that the richest and most privileged Venezuelans OF COURSE do not like the government down there taking away their privilege and destroying a system that only favors the top five percent or so. . .

How do like your mass starvation and hyperinflation as Venezuela free falls into chaos?
Chalk up another socialist nation that uses authoritarian despotic rule to justify it's criminal actions. Your racist appeals
to prejudice only makes your case all the more cowardly and disgusting.

It is their nation. I can't imagine why we would interfere with free and fair elections. Only the brain washed would tolerate such a thing.

Perhaps you could imagine why people would want to interfere with elections that were rigged and crooked from the start if you looked around just a bit and weren't so dishonest and playing your "Gee, why would people do that?" game.
You are transparently playing games with the truth.

Venezuela's Maduro Wins Boycotted Elections Amid Charges Of Fraud

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Your warmongering brain perhaps experiencing withdrawal symptoms including flatulent hallucinations.

Absurd and imbecilic even by troll standards.

 

[georgephillip]

"Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced in the 1980s,” said Elizabeth Oglesby, an associate professor of Latin American studies at the University of Arizona.

"'People were fleeing violence and massacres and political persecution that the United States was either funding directly or at the very minimum, covering up and excusing.'

"Violence today in those countries, she said, is a directly legacy of US involvement."

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

Says a leftist political science professor, not surprisingly.

Says a leftist political science professor, not surprisingly.

Who would you consider a credible source on this topic?

"As courts, law enforcement, and the Trump administration continue to sort out what to do with the steady stream of migrants either crossing the southern border illegally or seeking asylum, the roots of the current misery are often forgotten.

"The desperate border-crossers often come from Central America’s 'Northern Triangle'—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—and are fleeing high homicide rates and violence in those countries.

"But this instability did not arise in a vacuum.

"Many historians and policy experts are quick to point out that much of the troubles in Central America were created or at least helped by the US’s interference in those countries going back decades.

"In other words, the foreign policy of the past has profoundly shaped the present immigration crisis.

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

 

[Aba Incieni]

"Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced in the 1980s,” said Elizabeth Oglesby, an associate professor of Latin American studies at the University of Arizona.

"'People were fleeing violence and massacres and political persecution that the United States was either funding directly or at the very minimum, covering up and excusing.'

"Violence today in those countries, she said, is a directly legacy of US involvement."

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

Says a leftist political science professor, not surprisingly.

Says a leftist political science professor, not surprisingly.

Who would you consider a credible source on this topic?

"As courts, law enforcement, and the Trump administration continue to sort out what to do with the steady stream of migrants either crossing the southern border illegally or seeking asylum, the roots of the current misery are often forgotten.

"The desperate border-crossers often come from Central America’s 'Northern Triangle'—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—and are fleeing high homicide rates and violence in those countries.

"But this instability did not arise in a vacuum.

"Many historians and policy experts are quick to point out that much of the troubles in Central America were created or at least helped by the US’s interference in those countries going back decades.

"In other words, the foreign policy of the past has profoundly shaped the present immigration crisis.

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

You don't see them fleeing to Cuba or Venezuela.

 

[georgephillip]

Apparently you're still ignorant of the fact that a majority of Central Americans preferred democratic socialism to the rule of rich oligarchs who depended on US support for their corrupt administrations.

What a sorry apologist you are trying to morph communism into "democratic socialism" in order to dishonestly
sugar coat what was going on during the Cold War. Pathetic!
Do you think Cuba is a democratic socialist nations too?

What a sorry apologist you are trying to morph communism into "democratic socialism" in order to dishonestly
sugar coat what was going on during the Cold War. Pathetic!
Do you think Cuba is a democratic socialist nations too?

Socialism is when the means of production is owned by society which, up to this point, has meant government ownership. Communism is when the state is abolished and the means of production are owned in common by the people. Democratic socialism has multiple meanings, but perhaps the best example today involves bringing democracy to the work place.

The Worker Self-Directed Enterprise: A "Cure" for Capitalism?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Socialism is when the means of production is owned by society which, up to this point, has meant government ownership. Communism is when the state is abolished and the means of production are owned in common by the people. Democratic socialism has multiple meanings, but perhaps the best example today involves bringing democracy to the work place.

That's not an answer, cockroach.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The Atlantic Illustrates Everything That’s Wrong With Media Coverage of Venezuela Sanctions

 

[georgephillip]

You mean some Americans (like you claim to be )are in denial of own own past.

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.

Salvadoran Civil War - Wikipedia

"On December 2, 1980, members of the Salvadoran National Guard were suspected to have raped and murdered four American, Catholic church women (three religious women, or nuns, and a laywoman).

"Maryknoll missionary sisters Maura Clarke and Ita Ford, Ursuline sister Dorothy Kazel, and laywoman Jean Donovan were on a Catholic relief mission providing food, shelter, transport, medical care, and burial to death squad victims.

"U.S. military aid was briefly cut off in response to the murders but would be renewed within six weeks.

"The outgoing Carter administration increased military aid to the Salvadoran armed forces to $10 million which included $5 million in rifles, ammunition, grenades and helicopters.[73]

"In justifying these arms shipments, the administration claimed that the regime had taken 'positive steps' to investigate the murder of four American nuns, but this was disputed by US Ambassador, Robert E. White, who said that he could find no evidence the junta was 'conducting a serious investigation.' [73]

"White was dismissed from the foreign service by the Reagan Administration after he had refused to participate in a coverup of the Salvadoran military's responsibility for the murders at the behest of Secretary of State Alexander Haig."

Asylum seekers fled US-supported death squad violence like this and the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero which occurred while he was delivering Mass.

When the migrants arrived in Los Angeles they were preyed upon by local gangs. MS-13 began as collective defense against US gangs. As usual the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World blames its victims.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support

Maybe you live long enough to comprehend the difference between hired killers and their victims

Israel's shadowy role in Guatemala's dirty war

"Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced in the 1980s,” said Elizabeth Oglesby, an associate professor of Latin American studies at the University of Arizona.

"'People were fleeing violence and massacres and political persecution that the United States was either funding directly or at the very minimum, covering up and excusing.'

"Violence today in those countries, she said, is a directly legacy of US involvement."

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

Displaced = fled. They formed MS13. May they flay you alive one day.

Displaced = fled. They formed MS13. May they flay you alive one day.

May you sleep with the (red) octopus

"In the 1950s, Guatemala attempted to end exploitative labor practices and give land to Mayan Indians in the highlands.

"The move, according to now-unclassified CIA documents, threatened US interests like the United Fruit Company, which controlled a good portion of land in Guatemala.

"But instead of citing economic factors, many in the US cried 'communism,' saying the labor reforms were a threat to democracy.

"Wisconsin Senator Alexander Wiley, chair of the Foreign Relations Committee at the time, said he believed that a 'Communist octopus' had used its tentacles to control events in Guatemala.

"In 1954, the CIA helped organize a military coup to overthrow Guatemala’s democratically elected government, and continued to train the Guatemalan military well into the 70s."

 

[Aba Incieni]

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.

Danny Ortega, via Castro and Russia, was trying to spread communism throughout Central America. The death squads were fighting them, along with the Contras in Honduras.

When the commies got their asses kicked they ran to SoCal and formed the MaraSalvatrucha, MS13.

Salvadoran Civil War - Wikipedia

"On December 2, 1980, members of the Salvadoran National Guard were suspected to have raped and murdered four American, Catholic church women (three religious women, or nuns, and a laywoman).

"Maryknoll missionary sisters Maura Clarke and Ita Ford, Ursuline sister Dorothy Kazel, and laywoman Jean Donovan were on a Catholic relief mission providing food, shelter, transport, medical care, and burial to death squad victims.

"U.S. military aid was briefly cut off in response to the murders but would be renewed within six weeks.

"The outgoing Carter administration increased military aid to the Salvadoran armed forces to $10 million which included $5 million in rifles, ammunition, grenades and helicopters.[73]

"In justifying these arms shipments, the administration claimed that the regime had taken 'positive steps' to investigate the murder of four American nuns, but this was disputed by US Ambassador, Robert E. White, who said that he could find no evidence the junta was 'conducting a serious investigation.' [73]

"White was dismissed from the foreign service by the Reagan Administration after he had refused to participate in a coverup of the Salvadoran military's responsibility for the murders at the behest of Secretary of State Alexander Haig."

Asylum seekers fled US-supported death squad violence like this and the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero which occurred while he was delivering Mass.

When the migrants arrived in Los Angeles they were preyed upon by local gangs. MS-13 began as collective defense against US gangs. As usual the Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World blames its victims.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support.

Carter. Typical Democrat warmonger.

Good to see you support MS13, though. Maybe they'll skin you alive for your support

Maybe you live long enough to comprehend the difference between hired killers and their victims

Israel's shadowy role in Guatemala's dirty war

"Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced in the 1980s,” said Elizabeth Oglesby, an associate professor of Latin American studies at the University of Arizona.

"'People were fleeing violence and massacres and political persecution that the United States was either funding directly or at the very minimum, covering up and excusing.'

"Violence today in those countries, she said, is a directly legacy of US involvement."

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

Displaced = fled. They formed MS13. May they flay you alive one day.

Displaced = fled. They formed MS13. May they flay you alive one day.

May you sleep with the (red) octopus

"In the 1950s, Guatemala attempted to end exploitative labor practices and give land to Mayan Indians in the highlands.

"The move, according to now-unclassified CIA documents, threatened US interests like the United Fruit Company, which controlled a good portion of land in Guatemala.

"But instead of citing economic factors, many in the US cried 'communism,' saying the labor reforms were a threat to democracy.

"Wisconsin Senator Alexander Wiley, chair of the Foreign Relations Committee at the time, said he believed that a 'Communist octopus' had used its tentacles to control events in Guatemala.

"In 1954, the CIA helped organize a military coup to overthrow Guatemala’s democratically elected government, and continued to train the Guatemalan military well into the 70s."

Poor dodge. They still aren't fleeing to Cuba or Venezuela.

Or Nicaragua, for that matter.

 

[georgephillip]

So don't call it war.
Call it a deliberate act of aggression against the population of a sovereign nation.
The death toll is still the same.

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

You're confused about how sanctions that target one sector responsible for more than 90% of Venezuela's revenues will kill citizens of that country?

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality.

"We speak with Jeffrey Sachs in our New York studio. In the report, he writes, 'American sanctions are deliberately aiming to wreck Venezuela’s economy and thereby lead to regime change. It’s a fruitless, heartless, illegal, and failed policy, causing grave harm to the Venezuelan people.'"

500,000 Dead Children Haunt Madeleine Albright – Jacob G. Hornberger –

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

US sanctions caused those deaths, just like they did in Iraq twenty years ago:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"t started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation.

"That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control.

"And then, in this year, with this idea, very naive, very stupid, in my view, that there would be this self-proclaimed president, which was all choreographed with the United States very, very closely, another round of even tighter sanctions, essentially confiscating the earnings and the assets of the Venezuelan government, took place."

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

Illegal US sanctions are the biggest problem confronting Venezuela:

"Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017"
Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017

 

[Soupnazi630]

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

You're confused about how sanctions that target one sector responsible for more than 90% of Venezuela's revenues will kill citizens of that country?

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality.

"We speak with Jeffrey Sachs in our New York studio. In the report, he writes, 'American sanctions are deliberately aiming to wreck Venezuela’s economy and thereby lead to regime change. It’s a fruitless, heartless, illegal, and failed policy, causing grave harm to the Venezuelan people.'"

500,000 Dead Children Haunt Madeleine Albright – Jacob G. Hornberger –

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

US sanctions caused those deaths, just like they did in Iraq twenty years ago:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"t started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation.

"That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control.

"And then, in this year, with this idea, very naive, very stupid, in my view, that there would be this self-proclaimed president, which was all choreographed with the United States very, very closely, another round of even tighter sanctions, essentially confiscating the earnings and the assets of the Venezuelan government, took place."

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

Illegal US sanctions are the biggest problem confronting Venezuela:

"Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017"
Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017

Wrong.

They are legal and the biggest problem is the evil socialist government starving their people.

Then claim we caused their problem is a proven outright lie.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

Why do sanction cause deaths? Not allowing the import of products from or ale of American goods to those countries causes people to die? How is that possible?

You're confused about how sanctions that target one sector responsible for more than 90% of Venezuela's revenues will kill citizens of that country?

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"More than 40,000 people have died in Venezuela since 2017 as a result of U.S. sanctions, according to a new report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research co-authored by economists Jeffrey Sachs and Mark Weisbrot.

"The report examines how U.S. sanctions have reduced the availability of food and medicine in Venezuela and increased disease and mortality.

"We speak with Jeffrey Sachs in our New York studio. In the report, he writes, 'American sanctions are deliberately aiming to wreck Venezuela’s economy and thereby lead to regime change. It’s a fruitless, heartless, illegal, and failed policy, causing grave harm to the Venezuelan people.'"

500,000 Dead Children Haunt Madeleine Albright – Jacob G. Hornberger –

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

No one is confused.

They caused no deaths.
Those governments caused the deaths.

US sanctions caused those deaths, just like they did in Iraq twenty years ago:

Economist Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Sanctions Have Devastated Venezuela & Killed Over 40,000 Since 2017 | Democracy Now!

"t started with sanctions in 2017 that prevented, essentially, the country from accessing international capital markets and the oil company from restructuring its loans.

"That put Venezuela into a hyperinflation.

"That was the utter collapse.

"Oil earnings plummeted.

"The earnings that are used to buy food and medicine collapsed.

"That’s when the social, humanitarian crisis went spiraling out of control.

"And then, in this year, with this idea, very naive, very stupid, in my view, that there would be this self-proclaimed president, which was all choreographed with the United States very, very closely, another round of even tighter sanctions, essentially confiscating the earnings and the assets of the Venezuelan government, took place."

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

No it was not sanctions

It was the evil government of those nations in both cases which caused those deaths.

Illegal US sanctions are the biggest problem confronting Venezuela:

"Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017"
Trump’s Economic Sanctions Have Cost Venezuela About $6bn Since August 2017

Where is the line on the chart for "government confiscation of maintenance funds"?
Or the one for "socialist incompetence"?