Never said the universe wasnt created, I said that all known physics forbids the creation of matter
If it wasn’t created then it existed forever and that’s not Thermodynamically possible.
The big bang theory says that the universe created itself and others say God created it.
You really like misusing the word thermodynamics, which is irrelevant to a universe that is not collapsing back but spreading out ever faster fueled by unseen dark matter and or energy.
I bet you want to play a game of global thermonuclear war with dr Falcons Whopper