Atheist

[Avatar4321]

It is Christians who put billions of dollars into something that doesn't exist. A self perpetuating money train

Atheists only put time and money into preventing Christians from using public resources to force their views on them and their children

If that was true, you wouldn't care what other people do with their time and money. And yet oddly enough you not only do, but you want to force them to comply with your ideas contrary to their religion. Otherwise we wouldn't have the Hobby Lobby case.

It is Hobby Lobby that is suing to force corporate religious views on employees

You should pay attention to the actual case and not your talking points.

 

[High_Gravity]

I'm lost on where Christians are forcing anyone to do anything, if you don't believe in it don't listen, problem solved.

Becareful. I'm Christian. I may force you to find women beautiful.

Too late.

 

[Avatar4321]

How is the displaying of the Ten Commandments forcing views?

Read thefirst comandment and get back to me

How is praying in public forcing their views?

You are free to pray in public. You just can't force others in a public meeting to join in

Why should they give a shit if they don't believe in such nonsense?

They don't. They only ***** when you use public resources to force your religious views on others

No one can a person believe something they do not wish to believe in.

Then why do you force your views on others?

If they are so afraid, then their belief system isn't that strong.

If your beliefs were strong, you would not need to address them in public meetings

Simply because one of the ten commandments demands that you worship the Christian God first, foremost, and exclusively, doesn't mean that displaying the commandments is tantamount to forcing Christian views on anyone.

Just like bumper stickers that say, "Make Love, Not War" aren't attempting to force military personel to go AWOL and have sex.

Simply because a prominently displayed piece of text is in the form of a command doesn't mean it forces you into anything.

Considering that you hail from the philosophy that seeks to pass laws to ensure that everyone acts according to humanist morality, I find it interesting that you consider -this- a threshold for what is force. If displaying the ten commandments prominently represents an attempt to force others into your morality, then the democrat agenda is nothing less than moral slavery at the national level.

Maybe he is just really weak willed.

 

[rightwinger]

How is the displaying of the Ten Commandments forcing views?

Read thefirst comandment and get back to me

How is praying in public forcing their views?

You are free to pray in public. You just can't force others in a public meeting to join in

Why should they give a shit if they don't believe in such nonsense?

They don't. They only ***** when you use public resources to force your religious views on others

No one can a person believe something they do not wish to believe in.

Then why do you force your views on others?

If they are so afraid, then their belief system isn't that strong.

If your beliefs were strong, you would not need to address them in public meetings

Simply because one of the ten commandments demands that you worship the Christian God first, foremost, and exclusively, doesn't mean that displaying the commandments is tantamount to forcing Christian views on anyone.

Just like bumper stickers that say, "Make Love, Not War" aren't attempting to force military personel to go AWOL and have sex.

Simply because a prominently displayed piece of text is in the form of a command doesn't mean it forces you into anything.

Considering that you hail from the philosophy that seeks to pass laws to ensure that everyone acts according to humanist morality, I find it interesting that you consider -this- a threshold for what is force. If displaying the ten commandments prominently represents an attempt to force others into your morality, then the democrat agenda is nothing less than moral slavery at the national level.

Yes it does

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

It is Christians who put billions of dollars into something that doesn't exist. A self perpetuating money train

Atheists only put time and money into preventing Christians from using public resources to force their views on them and their children

If that was true, you wouldn't care what other people do with their time and money. And yet oddly enough you not only do, but you want to force them to comply with your ideas contrary to their religion. Otherwise we wouldn't have the Hobby Lobby case.

It is Hobby Lobby that is suing to force corporate religious views on employees

I'm sorry, but you've got this in reverse. Hobby Lobby's owners own that company. It is theirs. Employees can choose to work for them or not. To simply not offer a certain type of compensation isn't tantamount to forcing your views on -anyone- so long as you aren't forcing them to work for you. Luckily for Hobby Lobby's employees, those that want their birth control to be covered as a condition of employment are free to go apply at any of the thousands of businesses that offer that sort of thing.

No offense, but your ideas regarding whose responsible for what have no logic to them, they're all based in your dogma. If you straightened out your understanding of who owns what and who is responsible for what, you'd catch onto this shit pretty easily.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

How is the displaying of the Ten Commandments forcing views?

Read thefirst comandment and get back to me

How is praying in public forcing their views?

You are free to pray in public. You just can't force others in a public meeting to join in

Why should they give a shit if they don't believe in such nonsense?

They don't. They only ***** when you use public resources to force your religious views on others

No one can a person believe something they do not wish to believe in.

Then why do you force your views on others?

If they are so afraid, then their belief system isn't that strong.

If your beliefs were strong, you would not need to address them in public meetings

Simply because one of the ten commandments demands that you worship the Christian God first, foremost, and exclusively, doesn't mean that displaying the commandments is tantamount to forcing Christian views on anyone.

Just like bumper stickers that say, "Make Love, Not War" aren't attempting to force military personel to go AWOL and have sex.

Simply because a prominently displayed piece of text is in the form of a command doesn't mean it forces you into anything.

Considering that you hail from the philosophy that seeks to pass laws to ensure that everyone acts according to humanist morality, I find it interesting that you consider -this- a threshold for what is force. If displaying the ten commandments prominently represents an attempt to force others into your morality, then the democrat agenda is nothing less than moral slavery at the national level.

Yes it does

Please, explain. What force is being exerted?

 

[R.C. Christian]

Atheists are sub-human vermin, worse than LGBT crowd. They'd exterminate Christians given the chance

 

[Steven_R]

Most atheists are agnostic when you get down to it. They prefer the atheist word since it has an anti-Christian implication to it, culturally speaking and opposing Christianity is the main goal. They try to play semantics when justifying the use of the term but either you don't believe God exists, you do or you don't know. I can understand those that say they aren't convinced, falling into the 'I don't know' camp but to claim God doesn't exist means that you have access to all known and unknown aspects of the universe, which is nutty.

Not really. I'm agnostic. I have no data about any supernatural beings, so I really can't say for certain if there is or isn't a god or gods or the Force or what have you. I allow for the possibility of some supernatural force, but I see no evidence of its existence nor of divine intervention. If there is a god, it is along the lines of the Deist conceptualization of God.

However, based on the archaeological. historical, geological, linguistic, and biological evidence at hand, I can say with utter certainty that Jehovah is no more real than Zeus and that while there may have been a firebrand street preacher in 1st century Judea names Joshua ben Joseph who pissed off the authorities and got dead for his efforts, Joshua would have just been a man and nothing more.

 

[thebrucebeat]

You sure have that wrong.

Christians put alot of time and money into evangelizing. When they are not doing that, they are trying to force you to convert. When they are not doing that, they are killing folks that don't.

And when they are not doing that? They are claiming to be the victim.

Christians were commissioned by Jesus to go spread his teachings to all the nations of the world.

Why are you deflecting from my questions?

Are you saying that atheist do not spend money, time and effort denouncing God and/or Christianity? These billboards are what then? A figment of our imaginations?

It's a minority push-back against the Dominionist aspirations of a growing number of Christian organizations. It was the specific goal of Falwell, it is the same for Robertson, Focus on the Family, and so on. They want an overtly Christian government, and not to expect a push-back against that is simply naive.
Most atheist live quiet lives and sit next to you at work.
Before I get caught in the crossfire, I'm not an atheist.

 

[Steven_R]

I think part of the problem we're having is that all Christians and all Atheists are being lumped into one monolithic category. Most Christians in the US are not firebreathing Evangelicals who are against everything even remotely fun and who demand we kowtow to their religious sensibilities. Most believe in a God, might take the Bible as literally true (in large part because science education in the US is lacking), but give it no real thought. Likewise, for every Richard Dawkins out there, there are dozens if not hundreds of Atheists who go happily about their business without believing in God, but who also don't go out of their way to tell anyone else why their delusions about a Magic Sky Wizard is just stupid.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Atheists are sub-human vermin, worse than LGBT crowd. They'd exterminate Christians given the chance

Once again, a true believer displaying the Fruits of the Spirit.
Peace, love, joy, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.

Can you feel the love tonight?

 

[Steven_R]

Atheists are sub-human vermin, worse than LGBT crowd. They'd exterminate Christians given the chance

Once again, a true believer displaying the Fruits of the Spirit.
Peace, love, joy, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.

Can you feel the love tonight?

I hate when cover bands change the lyrics. If you're going to sing the song, sing it as written. The original in German was so much better.

Jews are sub-human vermin, worse than Slavic crowd. They'd exterminate Germans given the chance

 

[Iceweasel]

No offense, but your ideas regarding whose responsible for what have no logic to them, they're all based in your dogma. If you straightened out your understanding of who owns what and who is responsible for what, you'd catch onto this shit pretty easily.

That isn't possible because liberals are collectivists. They all built the company, not the owner. Except when it's time to pay the bills, then it's all yours.

 

[rightwinger]

Simply because one of the ten commandments demands that you worship the Christian God first, foremost, and exclusively, doesn't mean that displaying the commandments is tantamount to forcing Christian views on anyone.

Just like bumper stickers that say, "Make Love, Not War" aren't attempting to force military personel to go AWOL and have sex.

Simply because a prominently displayed piece of text is in the form of a command doesn't mean it forces you into anything.

Considering that you hail from the philosophy that seeks to pass laws to ensure that everyone acts according to humanist morality, I find it interesting that you consider -this- a threshold for what is force. If displaying the ten commandments prominently represents an attempt to force others into your morality, then the democrat agenda is nothing less than moral slavery at the national level.

Yes it does

Please, explain. What force is being exerted?

You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Sounds forceful to me

 

[Iceweasel]

Most atheists are agnostic when you get down to it. They prefer the atheist word since it has an anti-Christian implication to it, culturally speaking and opposing Christianity is the main goal. They try to play semantics when justifying the use of the term but either you don't believe God exists, you do or you don't know. I can understand those that say they aren't convinced, falling into the 'I don't know' camp but to claim God doesn't exist means that you have access to all known and unknown aspects of the universe, which is nutty.

Not really. I'm agnostic. I have no data about any supernatural beings, so I really can't say for certain if there is or isn't a god or gods or the Force or what have you. I allow for the possibility of some supernatural force, but I see no evidence of its existence nor of divine intervention. If there is a god, it is along the lines of the Deist conceptualization of God.

However, based on the archaeological. historical, geological, linguistic, and biological evidence at hand, I can say with utter certainty that Jehovah is no more real than Zeus and that while there may have been a firebrand street preacher in 1st century Judea names Joshua ben Joseph who pissed off the authorities and got dead for his efforts, Joshua would have just been a man and nothing more.

What exactly did you disagree with? I don't get it.

 

[Steven_R]

I'm lost on where Christians are forcing anyone to do anything, if you don't believe in it don't listen, problem solved.

It's when they pass laws based on their religion that it becomes problematic. Abortion laws, God in science classes, Blue laws all come from a religious reasoning.

 

[Iceweasel]

I hate when cover bands change the lyrics. If you're going to sing the song, sing it as written. The original in German was so much better.

Jews are sub-human vermin, worse than Slavic crowd. They'd exterminate Germans given the chance

Wait a second, you can't fool me. That's not German!

 

[Steven_R]

Most atheists are agnostic when you get down to it. They prefer the atheist word since it has an anti-Christian implication to it, culturally speaking and opposing Christianity is the main goal. They try to play semantics when justifying the use of the term but either you don't believe God exists, you do or you don't know. I can understand those that say they aren't convinced, falling into the 'I don't know' camp but to claim God doesn't exist means that you have access to all known and unknown aspects of the universe, which is nutty.

Not really. I'm agnostic. I have no data about any supernatural beings, so I really can't say for certain if there is or isn't a god or gods or the Force or what have you. I allow for the possibility of some supernatural force, but I see no evidence of its existence nor of divine intervention. If there is a god, it is along the lines of the Deist conceptualization of God.

However, based on the archaeological. historical, geological, linguistic, and biological evidence at hand, I can say with utter certainty that Jehovah is no more real than Zeus and that while there may have been a firebrand street preacher in 1st century Judea names Joshua ben Joseph who pissed off the authorities and got dead for his efforts, Joshua would have just been a man and nothing more.

What exactly did you disagree with? I don't get it.

Namely the idea that Atheists are simply anti-Jesus and that destroying Christianity is the goal and that claiming God doesn't exist is just some form of mental masturbation because we don't know for a fact one way or another.

I'm not anti-religion. I think it's childish to believe in invisible friends as an adult, but I'm not going to tell you not to believe if it makes you happy. That said, I'm going to fight tooth and nail to make sure you don't ram your believe system down my throat via the law.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Atheists are sub-human vermin, worse than LGBT crowd. They'd exterminate Christians given the chance

Once again, a true believer displaying the Fruits of the Spirit.
Peace, love, joy, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.

Can you feel the love tonight?

I hate when cover bands change the lyrics. If you're going to sing the song, sing it as written. The original in German was so much better.

Jews are sub-human vermin, worse than Slavic crowd. They'd exterminate Germans given the chance

Not following this post at all.

 

[Steven_R]

I hate when cover bands change the lyrics. If you're going to sing the song, sing it as written. The original in German was so much better.

Jews are sub-human vermin, worse than Slavic crowd. They'd exterminate Germans given the chance

Wait a second, you can't fool me. That's not German!

Let's see if I can remember enough German to translate.

Juden sind untermensch ungeziefir, schlimmer als die Slawen.