Atheism; An Intellectual Dead End

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I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

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Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

Great example of how religion can be used for right or wrong.

Nothing wrong if the man likes the dong

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Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

I agree about religion, there are differences so were they in need for support they could find the one for that reason and not so for those that use their religion as a cudgel against others ... not that were he an atheist could not have worked either. why there is an Almighty without the religion is much better than the religion in the long run.

That's called anarchy.

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That's called anarchy.

seriously are you that afraid to allow someone to be a free Spirit and that would cause anarchy ... and you believe living by a prescripted unverified book is the only means to reach a fulfilled life, when history casts an entirely different and verified conclusion. is most of your day spent daydreaming by chance.

Afraid? No. I'm counting on it. Yes, I believe that belief in a power greater than man leads to freedom and liberty and that anything which opposes that leads to slavery and tyranny. Unverified? Only to you. I have verified it the only way it can be verified.

 

[sealybobo]

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

I saw a dead body tonight. My neighbor most likely killed himself but something isn't right. There were guys over at his house that no one knows who they are. It turns out he was secretly gay. He may have tried to commit suicide about a year ago. If that's true he probably killed himself. Maybe feeling guilty and dirty after they left. And he just met this cute girl at work and his life was going well. I know more details than I should because my buddy is the detective in my town so he got called in. He said the angle of the bullet doesn't seem right so they are doing an autopsy and they treated it like a crime scene.

His girlfriend was worried because they were supposed to hang out at 1pm but it was 5pm and you could see in his doorwall his phone, shoes, lights were on, car in its spot.

I knew something was wrong. I volunteered to go in. I was expecting to see od'd not his brains all over the wall. No one heard a shot last night.

I went over to borrow milk last night late after poker and saw him hanging with these guys. Don't know if they had anything to do with it. Luckily my cop friend found a text saying I'm here so hopefully they can track them down. What if they murdered him? They might think I can identify them but I was drunk I don't remember what they looked like. Wish I would have paid closer attention.

I can't believe the kid did that to himself. He was a bit of an oddball.

Loved his guns and he was a huge trump fan. He was happy about inauguration this just doesn't make sense but no one knows what other people are really thinking.

What a scene. I knew something was wrong but did not expect to see that.

How'd he die?

Put a gun to his eye and blew his brains out or someone shot him. They're doing an autopsy to see if he did it himself. I can't believe no one heard the shot. I'd like to know time of death.

 

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The eye, huh?

 

[sealybobo]

The eye, huh?

I didn't think seeing that would haunt me but it has a little. Now I see a little how people who come back from war and see a lot of death come back messed up in the head.

I'm curious who those guys were that were at his place that night. Did they shoot him? Who were they? He may have met them online and they robbed him and killed him for being gay. Shits racing in my head. His poor parents either way. I'll let you know when I find out more. I just had to tell someone.

 

[sealybobo]

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

I'm starting to smell bullshit.

My cop buddy said he killed himself. He got a hold of the guys who were visiting and he doesn't think they did it.

I thought you'd call bs when I said he was a big trump fan. He was. He had trump signs all over, we talked about politics and he was so happy trump won. It was inauguration night I can't believe he killed himself Friday night/saturday morning.

 

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is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

I'm starting to smell bullshit.

My cop buddy said he killed himself. He got a hold of the guys who were visiting and he doesn't think they did it.

I thought you'd call bs when I said he was a big trump fan. He was. He had trump signs all over, we talked about politics and he was so happy trump won. It was inauguration night I can't believe he killed himself Friday night/saturday morning.

That's pretty sad.

 

[sealybobo]

The eye, huh?

Well it seems Catholicism can lead to a dead end too. I just found out his parents tried to pray the gay away and it's not the first time he tried killing himself. Rather than accept him for who he is their religion told them to tell him he's evil or immoral. When religion goes wrong

 

[sealybobo]

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

I'm starting to smell bullshit.

My cop buddy said he killed himself. He got a hold of the guys who were visiting and he doesn't think they did it.

I thought you'd call bs when I said he was a big trump fan. He was. He had trump signs all over, we talked about politics and he was so happy trump won. It was inauguration night I can't believe he killed himself Friday night/saturday morning.

That's pretty sad.

His parents said it was an accident. Same thing they said the last time he tried killing himself. They aren't having a funeral.

If he was wasted he probably didn't feel a thing. I always worry there might be ten minutes where you're alive and feeling the pain. I've shot deer before then shot them in the head and they still move for ten minutes sometimes. I just could never shoot myself. I hope he shot a good spot and he didn't feel a thing while he bled out.

I can't help feel sorry for him just laying there like that all those hours but I guess like sanatra sang he did it his way.

I wish I could have talked to him and helped but I'm also glad he didn't involve me or I would be feeling guilty right now

 

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The eye, huh?

Well it seems Catholicism can lead to a dead end too. I just found out his parents tried to pray the gay away and it's not the first time he tried killing himself. Rather than accept him for who he is their religion told them to tell him he's evil or immoral. When religion goes wrong

I was wondering how long it would take you to make your way back to this. E.L.C.

 

[sealybobo]

The eye, huh?

Well it seems Catholicism can lead to a dead end too. I just found out his parents tried to pray the gay away and it's not the first time he tried killing himself. Rather than accept him for who he is their religion told them to tell him he's evil or immoral. When religion goes wrong

I was wondering how long it would take you to make your way back to this. E.L.C.

What's elc?

 

[sealybobo]

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

I'm starting to smell bullshit.

My cop buddy said he killed himself. He got a hold of the guys who were visiting and he doesn't think they did it.

I thought you'd call bs when I said he was a big trump fan. He was. He had trump signs all over, we talked about politics and he was so happy trump won. It was inauguration night I can't believe he killed himself Friday night/saturday morning.

That's pretty sad.

I was thinking about God while we were all in the hall in shock. The only time God was brought up was when I told the best friend's mom that he's dead. She says oh lord no a few times but the girlfriend never mentioned God. The cops and paramedics never mentioned God.

This tells me God is not a good coping mechanism for suicides. We tend to feel like people who do that don't go to heaven but if I believed in a God he would take in these tortured souls.

And gays are beautiful just the way they are. I know you think you are more moral because you have a moral code written in stone but here is an example of how the ancients got it wrong. Gay is natural. They should have said God doesn't make mistakes.

A lot of Christians are OK with gays. Your religion is already evolving

 

[sealybobo]

If you want to blow a guy God bless you

 

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The eye, huh?

Well it seems Catholicism can lead to a dead end too. I just found out his parents tried to pray the gay away and it's not the first time he tried killing himself. Rather than accept him for who he is their religion told them to tell him he's evil or immoral. When religion goes wrong

I was wondering how long it would take you to make your way back to this. E.L.C.

What's elc?

External locus of control. You should do something about that.