At least two Republican DAs want to prosecute Bidens: Rep. James Comer

[bigrebnc1775]

States conduct their own elections. That is why you have state election officials dummy.

As directed by the feds

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It is a state issue. The official who was pressured was a state official.

Of course it isn't

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When you pressure state officials, it is a crime. It doesn't matter what it was over,

Repeat after me on jan.21 2025 president Donald J. Trump

 

[busybee01]

Food for thought, which our liberals won’t be able to follow:

The NY County indictment charges that the alleged crimes were committed on dates in 2017, after the 2016 election was over and after President Trump was already in office. Therefore, the persecutor is not claiming that the payments for the NDA constituted any crime. Instead, Bragg is contending that the later “book” entries (which he claims were false) were intended to conceal some other (but unidentified) supposed crime or crimes.

Since Bragg was scrupulous in not specifying what those other hypothetical crimes were, he is going to have to get pretty fucking specific in his pending Bill of Particulars.

The press conference he gave — just after President Trump’s arraignment — was a hodge podge of vague allegations (but don’t serve as a Bill of Particulars).

But the timing issue is gonna eventually screw Bragg’s legal theory to shit.

In short, Trump tried to get an NDA with a Ho and a playmate. As was legal, he arranged to pay for those NDA’s. Nothing illegal in that. But the eventual payment by Trump (repayment for Cohen’s fronting of the money) could not have been for the purpose of hiding it from the public, since the election was already over. Similarly, the supposedly “false” book entries couldn’t be to conceal anything from the voters, either. The voters had long since voted.

Bragg actually doesn’t have any case at all.

(This reserves for another day how ethically improper the persecutor’s press conference was as it was given that day. Most professional prosecutors couch their informative press releases or statements in a more professional manner. They say things like “by this indictment, it is alleged that the defendant did these things and it is alleged that he did them in order to accomplish particular goals.”

But not our lad Bragg. Oh no. He flat out declares that Trump “did” the acts and that Trump did them with particular purposes. The big oaf is trying his case in the press.)

The trouble is that he used corporate money and in a corporate filing with the state of NY that they were legal expenses. That in itself was a crime. There is no timing issue. Naturally it would be reported after the election. Bragg does have a case.

 

[busybee01]

Of course it isn't

Of course it is. State election officials administer the election laws of the state. Pressuring any state officials for favors is a state crime. You are a member of crooks for Trump.

 

[busybee01]

Repeat after me on jan.21 2025 president Donald J. Trump

Even sane Republicans know Trump will; not win.

 

[busybee01]

It's a federal crime dumbass Bragg is going after Trump .

It is a state crime to falsify information on documents filed with the state.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It is a state crime to falsify information on documents filed with the state.

Oh my goodness why didn't Bragg go after Cohen instead of the feds?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doesn't negate the point.

That Cohen is a crook - and particularly a crooked lawyer who turned on his client - means that intelligent people don't take his "evidence" as anything but self-serving, cherry picked or outright false disinformation.

No, the crimes listed are provided by prosecutors, those crimes must apply facts of the case to applicable law. Given that Cohen is a lawyer, there is no way he would confess to crimes that weren't accurate in the charging document.

You don't believe that yourself. At least I hope you don't.

Given that Cohen is a lawyer, and a crooked one, he would confess to anything, say anything, sign anything, that would get him a lighter sentence or other preferential treatment.

No, Flops, it was a metaphor. 1/6 preoccupied the DOJ, with the trying of over 1000 cases, etc., they decided to focus on 1/6 crimes with Trump the main target, since he is the top of that food chain, and at that juncture, the hush money probe is small potatoes, by comparison and note that long before all 1000 were prosecuted the statute of limitations expired on the Hush Money case.

Yes, the statute of liminations has expred on the so-called "Hush Money Case." So why are we still talking about it?

It may seem from your perspective that the prosecutorial pursuit of Trump has a Keystone Kops aspect, in which the prosecutors keep following false trails, while the proof of Trump's true and prosecutable crimes go unpunished. In actual fact, there are no true and prosecutable crimes that they could ever "get Trump" on, or they would have long since gotten him.

He did, it's in the SOF (Statement Of Facts) which accompanies the indictment which is an outline of the theory of the case.

Quote it, then.

Answered above. Over 1000 cases, and it is still going on , being tried, indicted, prosecuted, and now the brass in the 1/6 crime chain are being handled by Special Counsel Jack Smith. The Hush Money, I mean, with 1/6, why bother with the hush money case? No matter, it's passed the statute of limitations, anyway.

Odd that they pursued over 1,000 cases against people not name "Trump," when this peach of a case was just waiting for them in Manhatten. With Bragg resisting all efforts to to pressure him to prosecute they could have swooped in and said,

We're from the federal government and we're here to help! You've neglected the ironclad evidence and testimony provided by an outstanding and honest former officer of the court (on visiting day), and this fine young entreprenurial woman (when her mouth wasn't full). We'll take this case and you'll be sorry when you see how good it makes us look!

The reason that they never said that is because the case is a non-starter and they knew it.

I suspect you are metaphor challenged?

I have a rather pesky habit of taking what people say at face value.

Time to offer a wager:

I bet that Trump is not convicted of any of these 34 counts before election day 2024. If he is, I leave this board for good. If he is not, you do the same.

 

[BackAgain]

The trouble is that he used corporate money and in a corporate filing

You mean his own trust?

with the state of NY that they were legal expenses.

If you get a bill from your attorney, you should pay it.

That in itself was a crime.

No. It’s not.

There is no timing issue.

Yea. There is. I knew it would sail over your head.

Naturally it would be reported after the election. Bragg does have a case.

If it wasn’t a crime to pay for the NDA (and it wasn’t) and if the expense got reported based on a lawyer’s invoice (and it was) then there is no crime. Even if the claim is that Trump was knowingly repaying for thE NDA, that’s still ok. And if it’s labeled by Bragg as a “campaign contribution” (which isn’t even true), there was no limit on how much Trump could contribute to his own campaign. No crime.

Bragg is a dolt.

 

[Rumpole]

That Cohen is a crook - and particularly a crooked lawyer who turned on his client - means that intelligent people don't take his "evidence" as anything but self-serving, cherry picked or outright false disinformation.

Criminal prosecutions rely on criminal's testimonies all the time. The prosecutor will squash that argument with ease.

You don't believe that yourself. At least I hope you don't.

I believe it. Why would Cohen, a lawyer, confess to bogus charges? Answer, they are not bogus.

Given that Cohen is a lawyer, and a crooked one, he would confess to anything, say anything, sign anything, that would get him a lighter sentence or other preferential treatment.

No, he'd fight it, that's what he would do.

Yes, the statute of liminations has expred on the so-called "Hush Money Case." So why are we still talking about it?

Because the SOL is a moot point for Bragg's case.

It may seem from your perspective that the prosecutorial pursuit of Trump has a Keystone Kops aspect, in which the prosecutors keep following false trails, while the proof of Trump's true and prosecutable crimes go unpunished. In actual fact, there are no true and prosecutable crimes that they could ever "get Trump" on, or they would have long since gotten him.

First, I didn't support the Bragg case, but I am curious to see what the outcome will be.
I want to see GA case an the DOJ case.

Quote it, then.

The above is a screenshot from the SOF, where Cohen describes the crimes he violated in the Cohen indictment, where Lawyer A is Cohen, and defendant is Trump, the crimes listed in the Cohen indictment of which were;

Campaign finance violation
Title 52, United States Code, Section 30101

Causing an unlawful corporate campaign contribution
(Title 52, United States Code, Sections 30118(a) and
30109(d) (1) (A), and Title 18, United States Code, Section 2(b}


Excessive campaign contribution:
Title 52, United States Code, Sections 30116(a) (1) (A),
30116(a) (7), and 30109(d) (1) (A), and Title 18, United States
Code, Section 2(b)

Odd that they pursued over 1,000 cases against people not name "Trump," when this peach of a case was just waiting for them in Manhatten. With Bragg resisting all efforts to to pressure him to prosecute they could have swooped in and said,

You can figure all day long, but we are not privy to the granular details which the prosecutors base their 'prosecutorial discretion' upon.

We're from the federal government and we're here to help!

Yes, a quote from the fellow who said wealth would trickle down. Brilliant!

You've neglected the ironclad evidence and testimony provided by an outstanding and honest former officer of the court (on visiting day), and this fine young entreprenurial woman (when her mouth wasn't full). We'll take this case and you'll be sorry when you see how good it makes us look!

Whatever

The reason that they never said that is because the case is a non-starter and they knew it.

You, nor I, know what Bragg knows.

I have a rather pesky habit of taking what people say at face value.

Time to offer a wager:

I bet that Trump is not convicted of any of these 34 counts before election day 2024. If he is, I leave this board for good. If he is not, you do the same.

The trial won't even begin until 2024.

 

[Dragonlady]

Food for thought, which our liberals won’t be able to follow:

The NY County indictment charges that the alleged crimes were committed on dates in 2017, after the 2016 election was over and after President Trump was already in office. Therefore, the persecutor is not claiming that the payments for the NDA constituted any crime. Instead, Bragg is contending that the later “book” entries (which he claims were false) were intended to conceal some other (but unidentified) supposed crime or crimes.

Since Bragg was scrupulous in not specifying what those other hypothetical crimes were, he is going to have to get pretty fucking specific in his pending Bill of Particulars.

The press conference he gave — just after President Trump’s arraignment — was a hodge podge of vague allegations (but don’t serve as a Bill of Particulars).

But the timing issue is gonna eventually screw Bragg’s legal theory to shit.

In short, Trump tried to get an NDA with a Ho and a playmate. As was legal, he arranged to pay for those NDA’s. Nothing illegal in that. But the eventual payment by Trump (repayment for Cohen’s fronting of the money) could not have been for the purpose of hiding it from the public, since the election was already over. Similarly, the supposedly “false” book entries couldn’t be to conceal anything from the voters, either. The voters had long since voted.

Bragg actually doesn’t have any case at all.

(This reserves for another day how ethically improper the persecutor’s press conference was as it was given that day. Most professional prosecutors couch their informative press releases or statements in a more professional manner. They say things like “by this indictment, it is alleged that the defendant did these things and it is alleged that he did them in order to accomplish particular goals.”

But not our lad Bragg. Oh no. He flat out declares that Trump “did” the acts and that Trump did them with particular purposes. The big oaf is trying his case in the press.)

Grasping at straws here, but the crime is paying the hush money from the company's accounts, not personal accounts, and then claiming the payments as legitimate business expenses and evading income taxes on the money. The payments reimbursing Cohen were made AFTER the election, over a period of about a year.

As for the statute of limitations, there is no time limitation on charges of tax evasion, which is where Trump is really fucked, and not on this case. Leticia James fraud case is much more dangerous to Trump than the Stormy Daniels case. The fraud case is going to trial in September.

In terms of exposure, I would say that Leticia James fraud case is the one which will do the most damage. This is the case where Trump plead the 5th more than 400 times. This is not a criminal case, it's civil. Which is why Trump went back last week and actually sat for a deposition and answered questions, but he's really between a rock and a hard place here.

If Trump takes the 5th on questions asked, in a civil case, the jury can use that refusal as a negative inference. If he takes the 5th in answering questions about James' questions which overlap into the criminal case, the jury can legally conclude he's guilty, and if he answers the questions truthfully, his answers can be used against him in the criminal trial.

When I first heard about this farm in upstate New York and Trump's tax dodge on it, years ago, I said "How does he get away with this shit?" because the whole think stunk to high heaven. I'm really happy that his Presidency has shone the spotlight on his shady business practices and scams. He's the worst, and now it's all catching up to him.

Even in the sleaziest business in the world, Trump stood out as a real piece of shit. Trump would hire smaller sub-trades saying he wanted to help them make the move into the big leagues. Subtrades bill for work in progress. If a sub gives a progress invoice, the development holds 10% of the money until the project is completed and certified but the tradesman has to pay his workers and materials up front, before submitting a progress invoice. It can take a year or more for a big project to be completed and certified.

At the end of the project, after it was certified, the subtrades would file an invoice for the holdbacks and Trump would refuse to pay, saying their work was substandard, even though it was approved by the architect, and passed by the building inspector. He would offer them 50 cents on the dollar. The net profit margin for a construction project is 15% of the contract. Trump was holding 10% of the contract. All of the subtrades' profit for the past year are in that holdback.

Law suits over these holdbacks is what drove up Trump's numbers in law suits. Throughout the suits, Trump would stonewall and use the same delaying tactics that we've seen him use in oversight hearings. Dragging things out and running up the little guy's legal bills, until he was forced to settle for what he could get. Often 25 cents on the dollar. Some of the guys who tried to make the jump into the big leagues lost everything. They'd put their homes up for collateral on the loans they used to pay their workers and turned away paying contracts, to do this work for Trump.

Trump destroyed these people because he could. The cruelty is a feature, not a bug.

 

[Dragonlady]

You mean his own trust?

If you get a bill from your attorney, you should pay it.

No. It’s not.


Yea. There is. I knew it would sail over your head.

If it wasn’t a crime to pay for the NDA (and it wasn’t) and if the expense got reported based on a lawyer’s invoice (and it was) then there is no crime. Even if the claim is that Trump was knowingly repaying for thE NDA, that’s still ok. And if it’s labeled by Bragg as a “campaign contribution” (which isn’t even true), there was no limit on how much Trump could contribute to his own campaign. No crime.

Bragg is a dolt.

Not his "own trust". His own corporation. And then he claimed a tax deduction for the money's paid. That's tax evasion.

 

[JoeB131]

Comer is leading a House Republican investigation into Joe Biden’s role in his family’s international business dealings in countries such as China and Ukraine. The lawmaker’s staff recently reviewed Suspicious Activity Reports filed by banks to the Treasury Department regarding possible criminal activity by the Biden family.

Wow... it amaze me that people this stupid could graduate law school and get elected as DA's in Inbred County.

The first problem here is JURISDICTION!

The reason Bragg can go after Trump is because Trump ACTUALLY COMMITTED HIS CRIMES IN MANHATTEN.

The second is that Trump ACTUALLY COMMITTED CRIMES.

International business dealings aren't a crime. In fact, they are highly regulated, usually requiring several governments to sign off on them.

 

[BackAgain]

Grasping at straws here, but the crime is paying the hush money from the company's accounts, not personal accounts,

False. There is no crime involved in the NDA at all. And paying it out of his own trust fund is also not illegal, you moron.

and then claiming the payments as legitimate business expenses and evading income taxes on the money.

How he reported it is irrelevant. He got a bill from his lawyer and paid it. Perfectlyblegal.

The payments reimbursing Cohen were made AFTER the election, over a period of about a year.

Irrelevant as to when he paid it except for the fact that it necessarily means that he isn’t charged at all for paying for the NDA.

As for the statute of limitations, there is no time limitation on charges of tax evasion,

He wasn’t charged with tax evasion, you dolt.

which is where Trump is really fucked, and not on this case.

Zzz. No. He’s not. One can’t be “fucked” for not committing a crime (especially one that isn’t even charged).

Leticia James fraud case is much more dangerous to Trump than the Stormy Daniels case. The fraud case is going to trial in September.

Nonsense. It’s not even a criminal case you ignorant twerp.

In terms of exposure, I would say that Leticia James fraud case is the one which will do the most damage. This is the case where Trump plead the 5th more than 400 times.

Ignorant foreigners like you don’t grasp that legally no adverse inference can be drawn against any person for invoking our Constitutional right to remain silent.

This is not a criminal case, it's civil.

Glad you figured that out.

Which is why Trump went back last week and actually sat for a deposition and answered questions, but he's really between a rock and a hard place here.

Is that why?

If Trump takes the 5th on questions asked, in a civil case, the jury can use that refusal as a negative inference.

That’s not an accurate statement on the law, at least not as stated by you. While it may be true in certain circumstances that a civil trial jury is allowed to draw an inference in such a case, it depends on the context of the case. Here, it is probable that a fair judge following the law will not instruct the jury that it is permitted to draw any adverse inference.

If he takes the 5th in answering questions about James' questions which overlap into the criminal case, the jury can legally conclude he's guilty, and if he answers the questions truthfully, his answers can be used against him in the criminal trial.

Not true.

When I first heard about this farm in upstate New York and Trump's tax dodge on it, years ago, I said "How does he get away with this shit?" because the whole think stunk to high heaven. I'm really happy that his Presidency has shone the spotlight on his shady business practices and scams. He's the worst, and now it's all catching up to him

Zzzz

…. four or five of Lizardbitch’s especially verbose mere opinion paragraphs omitted.

 

[BackAgain]

Not his "own trust". His own corporation.

Link?

And then he claimed a tax deduction for the money's paid.

Did he?

That's tax evasion.

Is it? Proof? Link? Charged?

 

[surada]

While a few Republican DA's are hungry to get Biden, Hunter, et al., seems they are querying Comer for the dirt they can use to indict. Now we shall see if Comer's mouth is bigger than his plate. I suspect there's nothing on it to chew on, but it sure looks nice from a distance.

As my learned colleagues in academia are wont to say, the New York Post, founded by Alexander Hamilton, would not recognize what it has become. While it may not be a full-on tabloid, it bears all the hallmarks of one. Its appearance and style are reminiscent of the best of British tabloids, although it is not the kind of publication that garners awards for excellence in journalism. In fact, it has only managed to lay claim to one Pulitzer Prize, which is hardly an impressive record for any self-respecting journal of record. One might say that the NYPost exists somewhere between a serious news publication and a tabloid, but with its brazen and sensationalistic headlines, it sure looks like a tabloid to me. In the immortal words of that old adage, "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck,....and you know the rest."

At least two Republican DAs want to prosecute Bidens: Rep. James Comer

House Oversight chairman says Republican prosecutors want to bring a case against the Bidens after Alvin Bragg charged Trump.

nypost.com

WASHINGTON — At least two local GOP prosecutors are looking at ways to charge President Biden and his family amid Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution of former President Donald Trump, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealed Wednesday.

“I had two calls yesterday, one from a county attorney in Kentucky and one from a county attorney in Tennessee,” Comer (R-Ky.) told “Fox & Friends.” “They were Republican, obviously, both states are heavily Republican. They want to know if there are ways they can go after the Bidens now.”

Comer is leading a House Republican investigation into Joe Biden’s role in his family’s international business dealings in countries such as China and Ukraine. The lawmaker’s staff recently reviewed Suspicious Activity Reports filed by banks to the Treasury Department regarding possible criminal activity by the Biden family.

This is hilarious.. They think Comer has evidence rather than hot air.

 

[Skylar]

While a few Republican DA's are hungry to get Biden, Hunter, et al., seems they are querying Comer for the dirt they can use to indict. Now we shall see if Comer's mouth is bigger than his plate. I suspect there's nothing on it to chew on, but it sure looks nice from a distance.

As my learned colleagues in academia are wont to say, the New York Post, founded by Alexander Hamilton, would not recognize what it has become. While it may not be a full-on tabloid, it bears all the hallmarks of one. Its appearance and style are reminiscent of the best of British tabloids, although it is not the kind of publication that garners awards for excellence in journalism. In fact, it has only managed to lay claim to one Pulitzer Prize, which is hardly an impressive record for any self-respecting journal of record. One might say that the NYPost exists somewhere between a serious news publication and a tabloid, but with its brazen and sensationalistic headlines, it sure looks like a tabloid to me. In the immortal words of that old adage, "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck,....and you know the rest."

At least two Republican DAs want to prosecute Bidens: Rep. James Comer

House Oversight chairman says Republican prosecutors want to bring a case against the Bidens after Alvin Bragg charged Trump.

nypost.com

WASHINGTON — At least two local GOP prosecutors are looking at ways to charge President Biden and his family amid Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s prosecution of former President Donald Trump, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer revealed Wednesday.

“I had two calls yesterday, one from a county attorney in Kentucky and one from a county attorney in Tennessee,” Comer (R-Ky.) told “Fox & Friends.” “They were Republican, obviously, both states are heavily Republican. They want to know if there are ways they can go after the Bidens now.”

Comer is leading a House Republican investigation into Joe Biden’s role in his family’s international business dealings in countries such as China and Ukraine. The lawmaker’s staff recently reviewed Suspicious Activity Reports filed by banks to the Treasury Department regarding possible criminal activity by the Biden family.

Laughing.....good fucking luck.

GOP Oversight Chair Says He’s Lost Track of His Biden Corruption Informant

Craig Hudson/ReutersA top witness in a Republican investigation into the Biden family has apparently up and disappeared without a trace—or at least that’s what Rep. James Comer (R-KY) said Sunday on Fox News.On Wednesday, Comer—the chairman of the House Oversight Committee—held a much-hyped...

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So much for 'judgment day', eh buddy?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's been a month and Comer has produced no evidence.