Asking for a raise

[Darkwind]

You will do much better if you go to your boss and ask them what job advancement opportunities exist with in the company and how could you possibly be put into an advanced track for training so that you can become much of an asset. Most companies will reward additional skills with increases in pay.

 

[Manonthestreet]

It is my firm belief that you would benefit greatly by increasing my pay to $10.00 per hour to take effect on or before July 18, 2015.

Demanding. Not good.

Too lengthy. Too many pats on your own back. You can be replaced, ya know. If it were me, I would just ask to have a one on one meeting, say you worked hard and plan to stay a long time at the business, and wish for them to CONSIDER giving you a small raise if possible. Then drop it.

Thanks for the advice. I already did the one on one thing back in December 2013. I asked for $9.15 an hour but the boss only gave me $0.25 which brought me up to $8.25. That was worse than a no. I felt like my boss was smacking extremely hard in the face and telling me to never do that again. I don't think these people respond to polite requests. All they can do is say no. It is still as fun as heck to screw around with them.

Yes. I know that I can be replaced but that would require them firing me first. Asking for a raise isn't grounds for dismissal in North Carolina.

Go find someone who will pay more.....

 

[Hossfly]

Vas, take your 4 years experience, and find a job at another hotel, you will get paid more for your experience. If you live in an area that has Casinos and Casino Hotels, you could get more money than the average hotel.

You are in a dead end job with dead end owners from what you are telling us....the longer you wait to make the move, the more you will regret it...

make certain you have a new job, before you quit the old one though..... its easier to interview when you already have a job than if you are unemployed and looking for one, also easier to ask for more money from the new employer....before accepting the job offer...

good luck!

Also, if he is interested in the field, a couple of courses in Hospitality and Food Service at a Community College would be a great help. And a good hotel management might even spring for tuition and books.

 

[Care4all]

I did the Front Desk as well, for about 6 months to a year at the Holiday Inn C.C., in Miami....(my very first job in Florida, I was actually on vacation when I first took the job...it was unusually cold, I was bored cuz I could not go to the Beach, the cousin of a friend I was visiting with... just said, hey, we need some help at the hotel I work at, would you like a job? I said yes) I loved the front Desk as well and was the best front desk clerk! But as I stayed, I wanted more money with more responsibility and took a promotion to "Night Auditor" and balanced the Pit every night from 11:30 pm to 8:30 AM in the morning....after about 5-6 months of doing the midnight shift, sometimes 7 nights a week because the part time weekend auditor was unreliable and finally got fired without a replacement so I did it, I got burnt out and just quit....Midnight shift jobs are holy hell, even for a very young person, just unnatural to work that shift and sleep during the day imho...3 to 11pm is okay....

I started working the night shift 11pm-7am on Friday and Saturday night while I was going to college. After I graduated they bumped me up to working two shifts 7am-3pm along with the two shifts from 11pm-7am shifts.

Now I have become really good and dealing with everything they have me working 5 shifts from 3pm-11pm all by myself. There is no other front desk person, no management, no maintenance and no housekeeping. I run the show all by myself. Which is very entertaining to me at times but there are occasions when it isn't so fun. At my hotel the 3pm-11pm shift is the worst but it pays the same.

they, worked me to death...after my 11pm-7 am Night Auditor's shift was over I had to stay and help with the front desk check outs, there never was enough help on the Morning shift to handle them....I was young and wanted the money so I dealt with it...till I just couldn't anymore....

Unlike you, we did get paid a differential for the 3-11pm shift and an even higher differential for the midnight shift...this was decades ago though....

 

[Care4all]

Vas, take your 4 years experience, and find a job at another hotel, you will get paid more for your experience. If you live in an area that has Casinos and Casino Hotels, you could get more money than the average hotel.

You are in a dead end job with dead end owners from what you are telling us....the longer you wait to make the move, the more you will regret it...

make certain you have a new job, before you quit the old one though..... its easier to interview when you already have a job than if you are unemployed and looking for one, also easier to ask for more money from the new employer....before accepting the job offer...

good luck!

Also, if he is interested in the field, a couple of courses in Hospitality and Food Service at a Community College would be a great help. And a good hotel management might even spring for tuition and books.

It would be helpful, because this is what people are looking for I suppose...and also if you ever want to become a hotel general manager of a chain, the college is necessary, but I can tell you, it is not necessary to become an excellent front desk manager or to learn all that there is on Hotel Management....in just a year being there I learned all about what was expected of House Keeping, what was expected of the Restaurant/Room Service, the Hotel itself, how to balance/audit the books every night, including the Restaurant and Bar, and learned about big booking Reservations and marketing...all in my teens....all in about 1 years time, maybe a little less....

 

[Gracie]

Find another position with someone that WANTS their business to succeed. You are wasting your time and resources there. Start looking now...then give proper notice if hired somewhere else. Never burn your bridges.

 

[Hossfly]

Vas, take your 4 years experience, and find a job at another hotel, you will get paid more for your experience. If you live in an area that has Casinos and Casino Hotels, you could get more money than the average hotel.

You are in a dead end job with dead end owners from what you are telling us....the longer you wait to make the move, the more you will regret it...

make certain you have a new job, before you quit the old one though..... its easier to interview when you already have a job than if you are unemployed and looking for one, also easier to ask for more money from the new employer....before accepting the job offer...

good luck!

Also, if he is interested in the field, a couple of courses in Hospitality and Food Service at a Community College would be a great help. And a good hotel management might even spring for tuition and books.

It would be helpful, because this is what people are looking for I suppose...and also if you ever want to become a hotel general manager of a chain, the college is necessary, but I can tell you, it is not necessary to become an excellent front desk manager or to learn all that there is on Hotel Management....in just a year being there I learned all about what was expected of House Keeping, what was expected of the Restaurant/Room Service, the Hotel itself, how to balance/audit the books every night, including the Restaurant and Bar, and learned about big booking Reservations and marketing...all in my teens....all in about 1 years time, maybe a little less....

My SIL has been in the hotel business for about 25 years after graduating from Univ. of S.Carolina. He majored in Hospitality and Restaurant management. Worked his way up to Regional Mgr. for Hampton Inns. After about 15 years with Hampton he moved to a hotel management company where he would be sent to manage a hotel purchased by a hotel company, i.e. Doubletre. He would spend 12-18 months renovating, training their new management and staff, and when it came time to certify the exchange, his company would send him to a new project. He did this in 3 locations in Florida, 2 locations in New Jersey, 2 in Fort Worth and once in San Antonio and 2 years in British Columbia. Then 2 years at a Doubletree back in Ft. Worth. Last year he decided to settle permanently in Ft Worth and was given a 500 room hotel in Dallas where he will spend the rest of his career. Pretty good for a kid who worked at a McDonalds and waiting tables in the dining room at college. Of course a person has to love the job they are doing in order to be successful.

 

[Care4all]

Vas, take your 4 years experience, and find a job at another hotel, you will get paid more for your experience. If you live in an area that has Casinos and Casino Hotels, you could get more money than the average hotel.

You are in a dead end job with dead end owners from what you are telling us....the longer you wait to make the move, the more you will regret it...

make certain you have a new job, before you quit the old one though..... its easier to interview when you already have a job than if you are unemployed and looking for one, also easier to ask for more money from the new employer....before accepting the job offer...

good luck!

Also, if he is interested in the field, a couple of courses in Hospitality and Food Service at a Community College would be a great help. And a good hotel management might even spring for tuition and books.

It would be helpful, because this is what people are looking for I suppose...and also if you ever want to become a hotel general manager of a chain, the college is necessary, but I can tell you, it is not necessary to become an excellent front desk manager or to learn all that there is on Hotel Management....in just a year being there I learned all about what was expected of House Keeping, what was expected of the Restaurant/Room Service, the Hotel itself, how to balance/audit the books every night, including the Restaurant and Bar, and learned about big booking Reservations and marketing...all in my teens....all in about 1 years time, maybe a little less....

My SIL has been in the hotel business for about 25 years after graduating from Univ. of S.Carolina. He majored in Hospitality and Restaurant management. Worked his way up to Regional Mgr. for Hampton Inns. After about 15 years with Hampton he moved to a hotel management company where he would be sent to manage a hotel purchased by a hotel company, i.e. Doubletre. He would spend 12-18 months renovating, training their new management and staff, and when it came time to certify the exchange, his company would send him to a new project. He did this in 3 locations in Florida, 2 locations in New Jersey, 2 in Fort Worth and once in San Antonio and 2 years in British Columbia. Then 2 years at a Doubletree back in Ft. Worth. Last year he decided to settle permanently in Ft Worth and was given a 500 room hotel in Dallas where he will spend the rest of his career. Pretty good for a kid who worked at a McDonalds and waiting tables in the dining room at college. Of course a person has to love the job they are doing in order to be successful.

I have a very good friend that had about the same career as your BIL, with Choice Hotels now...his father gave him a local small motel in a ski resort area, that had very little business at the time...although he had a college degree, it was not in Hotel Management, anyway he and his wife turned the piece of crud motel in to a nice little place to stay, if you were a skier, and then marketed his business with seniors all over a tri State area for summer stays....managed to make the whole business successful year round...He then became an Econo Lodge, he and his wife don't run the motel anymore (they hired a Manager), as they once did...even lived in the back part of the hotel, and had to get up in the middle of the night with a front desk bell customers would ring, to check people in...but the hard work paid off....

anyway, he's some corporate trainer with Choice now, while still owning his motel, and they send him off to new motels to open them or train the new people...and to Sales Meetings where he is a motivational speaker type stuff....

It's a fun career....I could have easily stayed in that field...but the Good Lord had better things to offer me....and just as fun and rewarding! And who am I to differ with Him?

 

[presonorek]

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