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Ashli Babbitt’s shooter is—Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd.

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Are we supposed to care? she got shot because she busted through a window at the Capitol and started climbing through despite being told flat out that they would shoot her if she didn't stop. And this was one of the only cases I'm a police officer actually opening fire on the attackers. It's a miracle they just didn't open fire on the entire group in kill a bunch of them. They showed a surprising amount of restraint.

The lieutenant should get a medal for putting down a scumbag attacking the US Capital.
Please post your name, badge number and police department so we can get your ass fired.
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...
The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.
He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.
 

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The only mistake that the Capitol Police made was not to hang the traitorous bitch by her heels on the front steps once the rabble had been cleared...

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

A mob IS a deadly threat. At that moment, she was part of a mob - she just happened to be the first.
So the police are free to fire on any mob?
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.
 

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And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

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I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.
You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.
"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

A mob IS a deadly threat. At that moment, she was part of a mob - she just happened to be the first.
So the police are free to fire on any mob?
No one has made that claim....except you.
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.
Who has been charged with "insurrection?"
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

A mob IS a deadly threat. At that moment, she was part of a mob - she just happened to be the first.
So the police are free to fire on any mob?
No one has made that claim....except you.
Wrong, Coyote just made it.
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...
The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.
He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.
Yes he did.
 

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I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.
You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.
"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...
Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

A mob IS a deadly threat. At that moment, she was part of a mob - she just happened to be the first.
So the police are free to fire on any mob?
You seem perfectly happy about it when they are looters...

Sorry but your defence of stand your ground before and you have a problem with it now...

This officer was sworn to protect the capital... He did that in the only safe way possible at the time... Approaching the mob to arrest her was not an option...

Could you please tell us all your violent crowd control training and experience...
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
the legal definition of insurrection is the use of violence or Force to interfere or impede the legitimate business of the US government. The attack on January 6th definitely met that definition.
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.
Who has been charged with "insurrection?"
Stand by....charges (and arrests) are still happening. AND we've got some lawsuits by some Capitol cops too charging the orange slug with initiating a FAILED insurrection.
 

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Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent
So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...
The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.
He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.
Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.
 

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Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.
So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.
If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?
The police are always outnumbered in any riot.
So you admit it was a riot. Progress.
Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.
Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.
Who has been charged with "insurrection?"
Stand by....charges (and arrests) are still happening. AND we've got some lawsuits by some Capitol cops too charging the orange slug with initiating a FAILED insurrection.
Any day now.....
 

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And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

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I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.
You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.
"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...
Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

He was in danger of being over run by the mob... He was the last line of defence, he gave warnings and then had to do his job...

If the mob over ran his position they would have access to a number of Congress people they had been chanting they want to kill...
 

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And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

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I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.
You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.
"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...
Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation.

Indeed glad you recognize that.

What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

What makes THIS ONE different is the police were greatly outnumbered, and lost control of the situation in the face of a violent mob. But...you seem to think a violent mob isn't dangerous or a threat to life.
 

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Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed...
I almost hate to keep saying it over and over again, but it's not the cops' job to get involved in street fighting or hand-to-hand combat.
They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...
It's not the cops' job either to constitute an overwhelming presence of firepower.
The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...
Ashli was unarmed and presented no threat to that damned cop and his loved ones. He had no reason or justification to draw his weapon in cold blood and murder an unarmed woman who had no expectation that she would encounter such treason by her own countrymen.
 
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