As expected - The so-called "peaceful protesting" in LA turns into mass looting

You all began lawfare long ago and generally have failed. We did make 600 people serve some jail time. You? Nada.

Why the adhoms?

Your denial is noted and dismissed.

These issues are being discussed here. You can choose to have your voice heard, or you can shit talk.

If you choose to not engage, then you lose out on your change to have ANY input, and when the time comes, the outcome will be crafter based solely on what those who did engage, had to say.


Right now, it is not looking good for you or yours.
 
Yep, every single one of them need to get the same treatment as the J6 protesters.

 
Yep, every single one of them need to get the same treatment as the J6 protesters.


The problem is Homan and Bongino always talk after the fact. These criminals keep doing things while we keep talking about what we are going to do
It’s action time now
 
Newsom is showing the country why open border is a bad idea by doing nothing. Trump set the bait. Newsom's people took the bait.
 
You could engage and actually discuss teh issue.

But the more you shit talk, the more you convince us that the only path forward is to utterly crush you.


So, that is what we will and are doing.
Right! this is an attempt by you to discuss the issue?

"The more you shit talk, the more maga will support harsh measures against you.
You might want to watch this."

That is a goonish statement, not an attempt to discuss anything.
 
I am in the position of supporting a state's rights issue position, the which I almost never do. However...

California has "sanctuary" laws. State Senate Bill 54 prohibits state law enforcement from using state resources to assist ICE in enforcement actions against non-violent illegal immigrants. And Los Angeles also has its own sanctuary law, extending the same prohibition to city resources. Federal courts have upheld the right of cities and states to make such laws.

By tradition, when state and federal laws conflict on social issues like immigration or marijuana, the feds mostly let state law take precedence. The feds will go in and make arrests, but only if they have a compelling reason in a particular case. Lack of local cooperation makes it a bit dangerous for federal officers to operate in these communities, and it's also a states' rights issue. So illegal immigrants have had de facto amnesty there for a long time, and many are longstanding, well-integrated community members who work jobs, own homes, and pay taxes.

The Trump admin's position is that sanctuary laws are an illegal obstruction of federal authority. They've dispatched ICE in large numbers and full military kit to arrest nonviolent illegal immigrants living under California's sanctuary. They've been aggressive and deceptive, going around in masks and sometimes plainclothes, grabbing people en masse, without explanation, from homes and places of work. My brother's neighbor got arrested by armed ICE officers who busted down his door and pointed guns at his wife and kids.

Californians predictably hate this. It violates all norms and tradition, and they're watching friends, neighbors, and colleagues who've lived here peacefully for decades get kidnapped by armed and masked men who race up in military vehicles and then try to make a quick getaway. People are protesting, trying to block vehicles, in some cases throwing things at ICE agents. ICE agents have responded with tear gas, nonlethal munitions, and physical force.
There are hotheads on both sides. During one ICE raid, a mother got out of her car to see what was going on, and an ICE agent shot her in the face with a tear gas canister and sent her to the hospital. There were no protesters present yet in this case. Protesters have burned some cars and given Fox News some great propaganda visuals by waving Mexican flags near disorderly scenes.
Trump and Stephen Miller seem to be using this to actively provoke armed confrontation with (and to seek excuses to use military force against) blue states. They have declared L.A. protesters to be in armed insurrection against the US government and have called in the California National Guard to pacify them. The legality of this is dubious. The posse comitatus act allows the president to call upon the national guard to put down an insurrection, but not for domestic law enforcement. (Historically, claims of insurrection were used during Reconstruction to justify martial law under posse comitatus in the post-Civil War South.)

All of this comes against the backdrop of generally cruel and illegal enforcement actions against immigrants by the administration, including wrongful arrests of citizens and legal residents, deporting immigrants without due process, denying habeas corpus rights, throwing immigrants in foreign prisons, jailing people who legally apply for entry at the border, revoking student visas to punish universities, revoking visas on flimsy grounds like traffic citations, etc. Even many conservatives are saying stuff like, "we thought they would deport criminals, not moms." White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller was reportedly irate when ICE officials similarly expressed that they thought the mission was going after criminals. That is not the White House's mission, apparently.

Eerie parallels here to past fights over states' rights that escalated into full-fledged civil conflicts.
 
I am in the position of supporting a state's rights issue position, the which I almost never do. However...

California has "sanctuary" laws. State Senate Bill 54 prohibits state law enforcement from using state resources to assist ICE in enforcement actions against non-violent illegal immigrants. And Los Angeles also has its own sanctuary law, extending the same prohibition to city resources. Federal courts have upheld the right of cities and states to make such laws.

By tradition, when state and federal laws conflict on social issues like immigration or marijuana, the feds mostly let state law take precedence. The feds will go in and make arrests, but only if they have a compelling reason in a particular case. Lack of local cooperation makes it a bit dangerous for federal officers to operate in these communities, and it's also a states' rights issue. So illegal immigrants have had de facto amnesty there for a long time, and many are longstanding, well-integrated community members who work jobs, own homes, and pay taxes.

The Trump admin's position is that sanctuary laws are an illegal obstruction of federal authority. They've dispatched ICE in large numbers and full military kit to arrest nonviolent illegal immigrants living under California's sanctuary. They've been aggressive and deceptive, going around in masks and sometimes plainclothes, grabbing people en masse, without explanation, from homes and places of work. My brother's neighbor got arrested by armed ICE officers who busted down his door and pointed guns at his wife and kids.

Californians predictably hate this. It violates all norms and tradition, and they're watching friends, neighbors, and colleagues who've lived here peacefully for decades get kidnapped by armed and masked men who race up in military vehicles and then try to make a quick getaway. People are protesting, trying to block vehicles, in some cases throwing things at ICE agents. ICE agents have responded with tear gas, nonlethal munitions, and physical force.
There are hotheads on both sides. During one ICE raid, a mother got out of her car to see what was going on, and an ICE agent shot her in the face with a tear gas canister and sent her to the hospital. There were no protesters present yet in this case. Protesters have burned some cars and given Fox News some great propaganda visuals by waving Mexican flags near disorderly scenes.
Trump and Stephen Miller seem to be using this to actively provoke armed confrontation with (and to seek excuses to use military force against) blue states. They have declared L.A. protesters to be in armed insurrection against the US government and have called in the California National Guard to pacify them. The legality of this is dubious. The posse comitatus act allows the president to call upon the national guard to put down an insurrection, but not for domestic law enforcement. (Historically, claims of insurrection were used during Reconstruction to justify martial law under posse comitatus in the post-Civil War South.)

All of this comes against the backdrop of generally cruel and illegal enforcement actions against immigrants by the administration, including wrongful arrests of citizens and legal residents, deporting immigrants without due process, denying habeas corpus rights, throwing immigrants in foreign prisons, jailing people who legally apply for entry at the border, revoking student visas to punish universities, revoking visas on flimsy grounds like traffic citations, etc. Even many conservatives are saying stuff like, "we thought they would deport criminals, not moms." White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller was reportedly irate when ICE officials similarly expressed that they thought the mission was going after criminals. That is not the White House's mission, apparently.

Eerie parallels here to past fights over states' rights that escalated into full-fledged civil conflicts.
Shilling for criminals and way too wordy
 
Of course. When "protected classes" protest, their real goal is looting. Like BLM in 2020.



blacks gucci reparations.webp
 
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Not at all. It hits the point. We have a conflict between federal and states' rights, and I am conflicted.
Of course you're conflicted. Illegals are breaking the law and you don't want to see an R president removing them. If this was biden you wouldn't be uttering a peep nodding your approval.
 
I have always supported deportation.

I have always supported due process.

I do not support MAGA clearcut racism.

Obey the law, and I am fine.
 

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