As a Trump Appointed Federal Judge, Fernando Rodriguez Jr., Has Use of the Alien nemies Act As a Vehicle To Deport Venezuelan Nationals What Now?

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelans it alleges are members of the criminal organization Tren de Aragua.


U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., of the Southern District of Texas, wrote in an opinion that he does not question the executive branch’s authority to direct the detention and removal of aliens who engage in criminal activity, and he noted the administration can continue to rely on the Immigration and Nationality Act for those proceedings.

But Rodriguez, who was nominated in Trump's first term, wrote that the question at the center of the lawsuit was whether Trump could use the Alien Enemies Act to detain and remove Venezuelans who were members of Tren de Aragua, and he argued that "the historical record renders clear that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

The United States is not now at war with Venezuela. The United States declared war since December 7, 1941. He does not that authority, he never had that authority. We are NOT with El Salvador either. Deportations to that nation are totally illegal.
 
WASHINGTON — A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelans it alleges are members of the criminal organization Tren de Aragua.


U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., of the Southern District of Texas, wrote in an opinion that he does not question the executive branch’s authority to direct the detention and removal of aliens who engage in criminal activity, and he noted the administration can continue to rely on the Immigration and Nationality Act for those proceedings.

But Rodriguez, who was nominated in Trump's first term, wrote that the question at the center of the lawsuit was whether Trump could use the Alien Enemies Act to detain and remove Venezuelans who were members of Tren de Aragua, and he argued that "the historical record renders clear that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

The United States is not now at war with Venezuela. The United States declared war since December 7, 1941. He does not that authority, he never had that authority. We are NOT with El Salvador either. Deportations to that nation are totally illegal.
Hmmm. Can't even sell it to judge appointed by him? That is kind of like not being able to sell the "stolen election" in court in front of judges he appointed or his stacked, bought (or at least paid) Supreme Court.

I am no lawyer, but lawyers and judges (even Trump judges) agree. Use of the Alien Enemies Act is BullSh#t.
 
Hmmm. Can't even sell it to judge appointed by him? That is kind of like not being able to sell the "stolen election" in court in front of judges he appointed or his stacked, bought (or at least paid) Supreme Court.

I am no lawyer, but lawyers and judges (even Trump judges) agree. Use of the Alien Enemies Act is BullSh#t.

Even some 47's appointed judges did not buy the 'Big Lie". He way over stepped his authority on this one.
 
Even some 47's appointed judges did not buy the 'Big Lie". He way over stepped his authority on this one.
I'm not sure why Trump is trying to stretch this law.

It's not authority, there are other authorities he could use.

My guess is it's a prep for action against the cartel countries, whose governments are corrupt with cartel Influence.
 
WASHINGTON — A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelans it alleges are members of the criminal organization Tren de Aragua.


U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., of the Southern District of Texas, wrote in an opinion that he does not question the executive branch’s authority to direct the detention and removal of aliens who engage in criminal activity, and he noted the administration can continue to rely on the Immigration and Nationality Act for those proceedings.

But Rodriguez, who was nominated in Trump's first term, wrote that the question at the center of the lawsuit was whether Trump could use the Alien Enemies Act to detain and remove Venezuelans who were members of Tren de Aragua, and he argued that "the historical record renders clear that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

The United States is not now at war with Venezuela. The United States declared war since December 7, 1941. He does not that authority, he never had that authority. We are NOT with El Salvador either. Deportations to that nation are totally illegal.
Deport the judge. Problem solved.
 
Without due process, anyone can be deported by this admin, Citizens, non citizens...with just their claim of yahdahdahdahdahdah...

(I know you don't live here)
So I can only be deported by the Czech Republic and even that might not be possible being a citizen of the Shengen zone too.

I don't think Trump is going to ask for my deportation anyway and I don't belong to a gang like the lefty hero Abrego Garcia.
 
WASHINGTON — A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelans it alleges are members of the criminal organization Tren de Aragua.


U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., of the Southern District of Texas, wrote in an opinion that he does not question the executive branch’s authority to direct the detention and removal of aliens who engage in criminal activity, and he noted the administration can continue to rely on the Immigration and Nationality Act for those proceedings.

But Rodriguez, who was nominated in Trump's first term, wrote that the question at the center of the lawsuit was whether Trump could use the Alien Enemies Act to detain and remove Venezuelans who were members of Tren de Aragua, and he argued that "the historical record renders clear that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

The United States is not now at war with Venezuela. The United States declared war since December 7, 1941. He does not that authority, he never had that authority. We are NOT with El Salvador either. Deportations to that nation are totally illegal.
Yup

Trump needed to formally declare that the Biden Administration orchestrated an undeclared Invasion of the USA and take all appropriate measures
 
WASHINGTON — A federal judge appointed by President Donald Trump on Thursday rejected the Trump administration's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport Venezuelans it alleges are members of the criminal organization Tren de Aragua.


U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., of the Southern District of Texas, wrote in an opinion that he does not question the executive branch’s authority to direct the detention and removal of aliens who engage in criminal activity, and he noted the administration can continue to rely on the Immigration and Nationality Act for those proceedings.

But Rodriguez, who was nominated in Trump's first term, wrote that the question at the center of the lawsuit was whether Trump could use the Alien Enemies Act to detain and remove Venezuelans who were members of Tren de Aragua, and he argued that "the historical record renders clear that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

The United States is not now at war with Venezuela. The United States declared war since December 7, 1941. He does not that authority, he never had that authority. We are NOT with El Salvador either. Deportations to that nation are totally illegal.
What now? The govt appeals to the circuit court


Do dembots have to fail basic civics as a prerequisite to being a dembot?
 
So I can only be deported by the Czech Republic and even that might not be possible being a citizen of the Shengen zone too.

I don't think Trump is going to ask for my deportation anyway and I don't belong to a gang like the lefty hero Abrego Garcia.
Contrary to the trump admin claims, the gang accusation was not proven by the court 6 years ago, if you actually read the court papers....it didn't have enough to be assured of such...

He very well could have been part of a gang, but it is possible he could not have been...

What we do know as FACT, it was PROVEN in court that Garcia's life was in danger, if he was sent back to ElSalvador, thus the legal and binding COURT ORDER that protected Garcia from being deported to ElSalvador. The admin could have deported him to any other country that would take him.

The trump admin defied the Court order, and sent him to ElSalvador, illegally, and they admitted to making a "mistake".

This is not about Garcia being an alleged bad guy, or an illegal, or a spouse abuser, or what clothing he was wearing.... That is a deflection from the issue that Trump is putting out....

The Garcia situation with supreme court ruling 9-0 in Garcia's favor, is that before trump ships him to ElSalvador, trump needs to petition the court to remove Garcia's court ordered protection, and Garcia being given due process to fight that revocation of court protection, in the court hearing on it.
 
Hmmm. Can't even sell it to judge appointed by him? That is kind of like not being able to sell the "stolen election" in court in front of judges he appointed or his stacked, bought (or at least paid) Supreme Court.

I am no lawyer, but lawyers and judges (even Trump judges) agree. Use of the Alien Enemies Act is BullSh#t.
Trump took advice from Mitch O'Connell and others. There is more to this. We know Joe was not even cognizant most of the time and we sure would like to know who was signing his EO's and legislation if needed. Progs would have had the person or persons in prison already. Not us.
 
Contrary to the trump admin claims, the gang accusation was not proven by the court 6 years ago, if you actually read the court papers....it didn't have enough to be assured of such...

He very well could have been part of a gang, but it is possible he could not have been...

What we do know as FACT, it was PROVEN in court that Garcia's life was in danger, if he was sent back to ElSalvador, thus the legal and binding COURT ORDER that protected Garcia from being deported to ElSalvador. The admin could have deported him to any other country that would take him.

The trump admin defied the Court order, and sent him to ElSalvador, illegally, and they admitted to making a "mistake".

This is not about Garcia being an alleged bad guy, or an illegal, or a spouse abuser, or what clothing he was wearing.... That is a deflection from the issue that Trump is putting out....

The Garcia situation with supreme court ruling 9-0 in Garcia's favor, is that before trump ships him to ElSalvador, trump needs to petition the court to remove Garcia's court ordered protection, and Garcia being given due process to fight that revocation of court protection, in the court hearing on it.
Actually if you read the orders, they found it credible he was in a gang, likewise they found his fears of a rival gang retaliation credible too, thus they withheld deporting him at the time to El Salvador but deportable anywhere else

he decided not to find another country to move to over the past 6 years, and instead continued his gang life, a gang that is now a terrorist organization.

And the rival gang is no longer a threat.
 
Contrary to the trump admin claims, the gang accusation was not proven by the court 6 years ago, if you actually read the court papers....it didn't have enough to be assured of such...

He very well could have been part of a gang, but it is possible he could not have been...

What we do know as FACT, it was PROVEN in court that Garcia's life was in danger, if he was sent back to ElSalvador, thus the legal and binding COURT ORDER that protected Garcia from being deported to ElSalvador. The admin could have deported him to any other country that would take him.

The trump admin defied the Court order, and sent him to ElSalvador, illegally, and they admitted to making a "mistake".

This is not about Garcia being an alleged bad guy, or an illegal, or a spouse abuser, or what clothing he was wearing.... That is a deflection from the issue that Trump is putting out....

The Garcia situation with supreme court ruling 9-0 in Garcia's favor, is that before trump ships him to ElSalvador, trump needs to petition the court to remove Garcia's court ordered protection, and Garcia being given due process to fight that revocation of court protection, in the court hearing on it.
Garcia's in El Salvador and there's jackshit anyone can do about it except Bukele and he's not so inclined. I suppose Trump could invade El Salvador to free Garcia, but I don't see that happening. He is where he belongs.
 
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