Artificial intelligence could replace humans in four key industries and leave billions without jobs, expert reveals

[Delldude]

That can be fixed.

Hopefully, depending who AI likes at the moment.

 

[WinterBorn]

if workers are replaced by robots you seem to assume the robots will buy the products they produce....this is incorrect....robots buy nothing so industry collapses with no market for their products cause humans earn no wages to pay for all that shit at wal mart

Exactly. Another part of the equation that will lead us to socialism. There will have to be some sort of income for the millions of displaced workers.

 

[themirrorthief]

When prices come down due to the automation, the people will overlook the loss of jobs. To them, those are just numbers. Whereas their ability to have what they want and need is real.

except prices never come down...never

 

[themirrorthief]

Exactly. Another part of the equation that will lead us to socialism. There will have to be some sort of income for the millions of displaced workers.

if robots can be taught to lie they can replace democrats

 

[scruffy]

I have been to a few fast food places, when I worked on the road, that had kiosk ordering instead of people. I liked it. It was more convenient, more accurate, and the food was the same.

But you can't shoot the employee for failing to include your ketchup.

 

[WinterBorn]

except prices never come down...never

The point is that the businesses will automate to reduce costs. That will increase profits. But it will cost millions of jobs in the process.

So millions will be unemployed. When you have millions of citizens unable to buy food or pay for housing, you have 2 choices.

1) Do nothing and wait for the revolution as the people are starving.
2) Come up with a basic income for every citizen so they do not starve and are not homeless.

 

[peacefan]

I’m ready to die at any time. I just hope to leave this world the way I entered it…. Screaming at the top of my lungs and knee deep in blood and gore.

you're ready for the nut-house!

 

[Anathema]

you're ready for the nut-house!

Actually I have the paperwork stating they don’t want me.

 

[peacefan]

Actually I have the paperwork stating they don’t want me.

ok, and what reason do they list? just curious DM me if necessary, or just stay silent. i'll respect that too of course.

 

[Anathema]

ok, and what reason do they list? just curious DM me if necessary, or just stay silent. i'll respect that too of course

To paraphrase it… The patient’s documented pattern of aggressive, violent, and destructive behaviors are carried out exclusively against inanimate objects. Patient goes out of the way to avoid injury to people and animals around him during these outbursts..

We suggest continued long-term therapy to minimize stress and anxiety issues and deal with low-level ptsd

 

[Delldude]

Do nothing and wait for the revolution as the people are starving.

"Let them eat cake"

 

[peacefan]

To paraphrase it… The patient’s documented pattern of aggressive, violent, and destructive behaviors are carried out exclusively against inanimate objects. Patient goes out of the way to avoid injury to people and animals around him during these outbursts..

We suggest continued long-term therapy to minimize stress and anxiety issues and deal with low-level ptsd

wow, that's exactly what i do too.. kung fu training only..
oh no, wait, i also shout at annoying groups of tourists in large public squares these days..
and i issue random threats that i later fully retract, even towards psychiatric staff..
but that still doesn't legitimize a month of lockup over an event like that.
and maybe my Netherlands is just a far more psychiatricly strict country.
we are situated in guns-free Europe after all.

 

[Anathema]

wow, that's exactly what i do too.. kung fu training only..

I have extensive self-defer training in both martial arts and weapons. My “anger management“ issues typically focus on work or sports so thankfully I’m not in a situation to take it out on people.

oh no, wait, i also shout at annoying groups of tourists in large public squares these days..
and i issue random threats that i later fully retract, even towards psychiatric staff..
but that still doesn't legitimize a month of lockup over an event like that

Again, my issues are typically in a private setting, but there are public places I avoid (bars, clubs, etc…) for good reasons.

At least here in the US it’s a far better option to agree to an out-patient review than to let it get to a point of being seen against your will. Far more options that way.

and maybe my Netherlands is just a far more psychiatricly strict country.
we are situated in guns-free Europe after all

You folks in Europe have allowed Your government and society far too much latitude to make decisions for you. That’s the biggest problem.

 

[Red Front]

Artificial intelligence could replace humans in four key industries and leave billions without jobs, expert reveals : INTERNEWSCAST

Artificial intelligence could replace humans in four key industries and leave billions without jobs, expert reveals


ARTIFICIAL intelligence could one day replace human workers in four major industries, experts have claimed.

In a new opinion piece for CNN, Peter Bergen says that for a while experts have speculated AI will replace humans in fields such as customer service, insurance underwriting, and manufacturing.

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But now, Bergen has expressed concern that AI may also overtake writers.

“For the past several days, I have been hearing about the AI chatbot ChatGPT,” Bergen writes.

“Users of the tool claim to be able to write coherent essays and op-eds in seconds.”

“So, I signed up to give it a try and asked it to perform a task that I had hitherto believed required at least some level of skill. I asked ChatGPT to ‘Write an op-ed in the style of Peter Bergen.'”

The journalist shared the AI-generated opinion piece and argued that while it was impressive, it did contain some factual errors.

Bergen attributed the mistakes to the fact that ChatGPT was created in 2021 and may not have knowledge of current events.

He then asked the AI-powered tool a historical question about the role of women in the French Revolution.

The answer, Bergen said, was not exactly like the work of leading historians but did “suggest a future in which college students will likely be able to submit long and complicated papers that are entirely generated by AI.”

“And then what does it mean to be educated at a liberal arts college? And why go to all the bother and expense?” Bergen asked.

He continued: “So, I head into 2023 with a sobering realization. My career as a CNN op-ed writer, which began in earnest over a decade ago, may not exactly be over yet since AI-generated op-eds make factual errors – just as humans do, though those are typically caught during the fact-checking process.”

“Yet my writing career could still go the way of the grocery checkout jobs eliminated by automation.”

He noted that Al tools will keep getting smarter, and telling apart AI-written op-eds from ‘real’ human ones will also get harder over time.

“As a writer and professor, that makes for a dystopian future. (I promise this sentiment was not generated by AI),” Bergen concluded.

What is ChatGPT?​

In technical terms, ChatGPT is a language model that can produce text.

It’s based on the GPT 3.5 model created by San Francisco-based AI research lab Open AI.

The mind-blowing app can talk to you like a human, write poems, give you baking advice, solve complicated puzzles and so much more.



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while i fully support tech like ChatGPT receiving more development time, i also think that in the future, the government and the employers and the public at large will have to decide which type of body can perform which type of jobs in any given society.

 

[scruffy]

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You guys are nuts.

First of all automation does not equate with intelligence. "AI" is a pipe dream so far. As close as they've come is replacing a part of the brain with a computer, so like, prosthetics.

A sophisticated database doesn't equate with intelligence either.

Do y'all know how a brain actually works? It's very interesting. If you'd like a sense for how far away automation is from actual intelligence, study the process of memory consolidation in humans.

In humans, there is "working memory" which is very fast, and "short term memory" which is related to the organization of (experiential) episodes, and "long term memory" which may last a lifetime (hopefully). The way things get from short term to long term is very, very sophisticated. The same brain area that handles working memory, learns to play and replay the short term episodes, backwards and forwards. They are "reconstructed", actively, not "merely" stored.

They're going to need human beings to build and fix the computers, for a very long time.

 

[Red Front]

You guys are nuts.

First of all automation does not equate with intelligence. "AI" is a pipe dream so far. As close as they've come is replacing a part of the brain with a computer, so like, prosthetics.

A sophisticated database doesn't equate with intelligence either.

Do y'all know how a brain actually works? It's very interesting. If you'd like a sense for how far away automation is from actual intelligence, study the process of memory consolidation in humans.

In humans, there is "working memory" which is very fast, and "short term memory" which is related to the organization of (experiential) episodes, and "long term memory" which may last a lifetime (hopefully). The way things get from short term to long term is very, very sophisticated. The same brain area that handles working memory, learns to play and replay the short term episodes, backwards and forwards. They are "reconstructed", actively, not "merely" stored.

They're going to need human beings to build and fix the computers, for a very long time.

You're incorrect. Artificial intelligence is very capable, even to the point of replacing many white-collar jobs, like CT scan analysts, and paralegals. etc. This is the case not because I'm saying it but because it's a fact, that is happening right now. As far as technology creating new jobs and opportunities, that's correct. However, there won't be enough new jobs and opportunities to replace the tens of millions of jobs that will be lost. So the volume of new jobs and opportunities won't compensate for those that are lost. Furthermore, not everyone can become an IT technician or get into a high-tech field, because it often requires a higher-than-average intelligence and certain personality traits and skills, talents, that not everyone has, hence the idea that the cashier at Taco Bell or even a nurse (a medical professional), can become a computer tech, is misleading and shortsighted.

The level of automation that we're seeing today is unprecedented, to the point that even the big-money capitalist billionaires recognize that in the not-too-distant future, they're not going to need to hire human labor anymore, hence they're constantly mentioning the need for the government to bail them out by giving everyone (the consumer), a UBI i.e. Universal Basic Income. You can hear it from the horse's mouth:

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They recognize that this level of automation:

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Needs another government bailout, to the tune of half a trillion monthly. The solution is to adopt a non-profit system of production, that transcends markets and money. We could easily do that now, thanks to the power of our computers and our ability to automate production. Practically all menial jobs and most white-collar fields are going to be populated with robots, artificial intelligence, autonomous machines and self-driving vehicles. We even have systems and macnines that diagnose and repair themselves, so even the few repair and maintenance jobs that could be filled with human labor, will be replaced with robots and AI. We're entering an era of extreme abundance due to advanced automation technology. There's no longer a need for wage-labor, markets, money, all of that will eventually in the not-too-distant future go the way of the dodo.

LIBERTARIAN HIGH-COMMUNISM IS THE FUTURE.​

 

[peacefan]

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without consumers, capitalism is dead.
without workers, consumers can't be fed.
with automation, workers can do their jobs with much more ease.
and that is needed by now.
we can't stay stuck in the 1980s.

 

[frigidweirdo]

now maybe 'yes'. 50 years into the future? possibly not. 100 or 150? proably not!

This stuff is already happening. Either people find new jobs, possible, or people end up on "basic" or whatever else scifi novels call it where people get a basic wage and do nothing their whole life

 

[Red Front]

without consumers, capitalism is dead.
without workers, consumers can't be fed.
with automation, workers can do their jobs with much more ease.
and that is needed by now.
we can't stay stuck in the 1980s.

Human labor will always be needed to a certain extent. We don't want to live in a world where robots and AI take absolute control over the means of production and we just become a bunch of lazy, ignorant simpletons relying on completely autonomous, independent, intelligent technology, that we don't have to supervise or control. That's a recipe for extinction. However, advanced 21st-century automation technology is going to revolutionize production, making it a lot less labor-intensive. People will be able to work 20 hours weekly, supervising the system i.e. the robots, the artificial intelligence, and the self-driving vehicles. etc, and have access to all of the products and services that they consume and rely on to live their lives as comfortably and freely as possible.

At the beginning of this mass socioeconomic and political transition to a non-profit, marketless, moneyless economy and society, there are going to be obstacles and challenges and we're going to have to work harder than what we envision our labor to be once this system is well established but nonetheless we're going to avoid losing everything (we don't have to become slaves of the wealthy tech-lords, the present rich elite who own everything). We're going to keep our homes, we're going to have food, clothing, our smartphones, our internet, everything that we have now, and as we develop our newly adopted system of production, we will gradually but surely improve our access to resources, greatly enhancing our standard of living. We will also have a government that serves the interests of the American people, and we will rebuild America from the ground up (this will be the true MAGA, Making America Great Again), modernizing our present crumbling, outdated infrastructure within a few decades and as a result we will be living in a much better country than we are now. We will have more resources, more freedom, and a better future ahead of us, with a lot more options and opportunities.

Thanks to advanced technology, we will begin to expand from just being a landbased nation to other environments as well:

A modern seafaring, spacefaring civilization. This is our destiny as Americans and as members of the human race. America will lead humanity's effort to colonize new worlds, to ensure the survival of mankind.

 

[JoeMoma]

Exactly. Another part of the equation that will lead us to socialism. There will have to be some sort of income for the millions of displaced workers.

I am a supporter of capitalism and not a supporter of socialism. That said, if technology advances enough so that AI supplies our needs and resources are no longer limited, then socialism may be the way to go. Kind of like in Star Trek TNG; if all we have to do is speak to a food or product replicator and poof there it is..... then socialism might not be so bad. Hopefully millions/billions of people will not have to be put down because socialism doesn't provide people their needs and wants.