For others when they take that "one path"
it IS the fulfillment of the true path they were always on
but what about the ones on the wrong path who don't change to the right paths......like the Buddhists who DON'T convert to Christianity before they die?........
Like anyone else, if there are unresolved debts or sins,
these pass down to the next generation to deal with.
This is true of anyone.
first of all nobodies debts or sins pass down to any other generation....
second, it ignores the point of this debate....obviously, if they never leave the wrong path they are not saved as you profess to believe......
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PostmodernProph
The Salvation step does not occur until the reception of Christ occurs in the path.
The first step is to receive a child who comes in the name of the Lord in order to receive Jesus,
and then whoever receives Jesus receives the Father.
So if they reject a witness to Christ, that is blocking the path from finishing in Christ.
This has to be reconciled.
Some Buddhists do not reject Christ but remain connected as "neighbors" in Christ
or receiving a child and receiving Jesus by receiving that person, but they still need to FINISH the path.
That is done on God's timing, but once the child is received in Jesus name, the seed is planted for the rest to take root.
It is better of course for the Buddhists who fully receive Christ and understand they are Christian.
And the part I am curious about:
A. for the ELDERS and monks to fully reconcile, this would open the door for all their followers to receive in full
That's why I find it is so important for the Elders and Teachers in each tribe to reconcile in Christ
so they can explain and teach to their entire followings in that tribe. They can reach in that language,
and as an Elder who is trusted by that group.
The JW especially depend on their Elders if they are going to reconcile.
B. Also about people who died before this process was completed,
I would like to know how the prayers for the generations and ancestors can still connect people in Christ
when the Descendants and entire tribal lineage agrees to pray for those who came before them
to receive prayers in Christ so Jesus witnesses to them on the heavenly level or whatever spiritual level that is.
That is the level that I received in this lifetime, because the prayers in Christ I joined in came later in time,
but these prayers affected events that started changing BEFORE I knew how to pray in intercession with others.
So if prayers in Christ Jesus can transcend time and affect things in the past (if you go by human linear time)
then this "reflects" the process of God on a higher scale that can do this globally, and God's love and prayers
in Christ can transcend death and affect souls in the past and future through Christ Jesus.
So that is where I believe all souls will be prayed for to receive and be witnessed to where they
all have the opportunity to be saved.
If we pray with judgment and punishment, that is what multiples collectively.
If we pray for forgiveness and correction to be received by all, that is what multiples collectively.
So I pray for universal reception not rejection that doesn't help.
Honoring our mothers and fathers keep a connection between generations,
so when the future generations receive Christ and pray to heal and free the entire lineage from bondage,
then whatever we pray in agreement in Christ, whatever we loose on earth is loosed in heaven,
whatever we bind on earth is bound in heaven.
The sins of the past that need to be given to Christ will pass down by repeating
the sin through a chain of "unforgiveness" (which creates a "new" sin)
Until the chain of sin of unforgiveness lands on a future generation that DOES pray to
forgive and give this to God through Christ. So at that point, Christ intervenes to absolve the sin.
The sins of from previous generations can pass down to the fourth or fifth generation
before they are resolved in Christ.
Each person is still responsible for their own sins,
because when a past sin is not forgiven, when it affects the next
generation if it is not forgiven that becomes a "new sin" of unforgiveness
for which that generation is responsible.
If that generation forgives it in Christ, then the chain of sin can be broken.
With my family, this was the first generation to break the cycle.
Lots of patterns of conditioned behavior had been passed down,
and my brothers and sisters had to resolve it all and we're still in the process.
Some of this is from "original sin" that people are born under.
Some is from specific family issues, and some from cultural or national conditions, etc.
All of that has to be forgiven in Christ to complete the process.
Some parts we can do while we are on earth, the rest is done on other spiritual levels.
The part I was given to focus on is the part I can explain using my own experience
as examples, and the experience of others who have broken free from curses and conditions
carried from the past. So we can use our testimonies to help others to break free.
One of my friends had not only been abused by his dad, but his dad had been
abused by the grandmother, so two generations had to be forgiven in Christ to break the cycle
that had kept dumping the demons of rage on the next person. The abusers had demonic rage or sickness and didn't get help in Christ Jesus to remove them, so they victimized the next person and that person's wounds and unforgiveness got infected with the demons to infest them (like carrying a virus), and then this got done to my friend who was infested with the same demonic rages from the abuse. But he KNEW he did not want this contagion to affect his daughter, so he tried to refrain from anything that would hurt her and drag her into this. And it wasn't until his later years he finally agreed to go through Christian healing prayer because I explained it would help stop this abuse that was affecting his relationship with me. He didn't share it with his daughter, but it came out and affected me, so he agreed to go through the healing because it was hurting me. And that's what finally got rid of those demons, because
the prayers were focused on forgiving both the father and grandmother and giving them fully to God through Christ to save the relationships and remove all the demonic rage and abuses.
it was because my friend "received a child in the name of Christ' that he received Jesus and healing. and so to free him, the prayers had to go to the root causes with the generations before him and witness on that level to remove the whole chain like a metastasized tumor.
My friend is still recovering and healing all the other issues related to his past.
but if even an atheist/buddhist like him can go through this process, then anyone
can make it.
Whatever sins his father and grandmother didn't forgive and give up to God through Christ,
these repeated through abuse and unforgiveness and demonic rage he carried until these
were given up.
If all people do this, then all the sins from the past will eventually be given up to God through prayer for forgiveness in Christ, so these are removed from the chain of generations connecting us all in Christ.
That is all that we can do consciously is handle the sins that we are aware of.
The rest has to be done by God that we cannot know or see. We can just do our
part to find what isn't forgiven and healed fully, what is not reconciled,
and pray to give that up to God through Christ until it is resolved and we are free of that
strife conflict and suffering.
So Buddhism is one tool for teaching us to be aware of suffering
and to know that isn't fully perfect, that something is still wrong or out of balance
if there is conflict or strife, anything but perfect peace and harmony.
We are not to deny problems we run across, and blame it on someone else in a conditioned way, but look deeper and take care of the part that is our responsibility and resolve that part.
So forgiveness allows us to look deeper and deeper and find what else needs to
be forgiven and resolved to bring higher and higher peace.
And the more peaceful we are then we can see deeper and deeper into the root causes.
So that is why some people can look into someone they are praying for
and see what in their family past got passed down as unforgiven sins
that kept causing more unforgiven sins every time they were not forgiven and created
another layer.
This is pure psychology. Even the Scientologists have studied Buddhism and Christianity
and know this is affecting people's unconscious psychology. They charge huge fees
to audit this unconscious blocks.
The Christian healing ministries and nonprofits I refer help people for free because they are called to help more people to receive healing not to make money off people's suffering.
It's the same knowledge but people either use it to help others
or some try to exploit it to benefit and profit from having knowledge that others don't have.
I'd rather share this knowledge openly so nobody depends on the control of others
or can be manipulated by it. Everyone can have equal access to spiritual help
in order to be freed. The Buddhists seek the freedom from suffering of all living beings,
so of course they want to share freely. And the Christians called to this healing outreach
want everyone to be healed and free. These are two witnesses to the same process,
but only the authority of Christ Jesus can command the truly strongest demons to be cast out.
So the mental illness this causes CANNOT be cured by medicine or meditating or prayer
through Buddhism or any other level that cannot substitute; only Christ Jesus authority
is invoked for forgiveness and deliverance on that higher more concentrated level.
This makes sense because of all the prayers joined in Christ as the universal authority,
only that level is going to address all the other levels in the hierarchy, that is head over all.
The tribes provide a chain so the causality and connection can be followed,
and specific people and points along the chain can be prayed for in Christ Jesus.
So the entire tribe or chain can be lifted up and given to God through Christ
to save as many people as possible, as many souls along that chain.
I believe this can save everyone, but it is up to God how that is done and how much.
I don't see that part. I just know the part on earth that I can reach out and unite in Christ,
help as many people to understand and to pray collectively for everyone in their network.
And especially pray to remove any blocks of unforgiven conflicts, and especially any
influence from occult or dark forces that truly twist and destroy the healing process
to make it backfire where even prayers in Christ can deflect off such a barrier
and cause dangerous clashes and disruptions, even death from blowing the circuits.
So all those blocks need to be removed, so that the spiritual energy and life and
healing flows through uninterrupted through Christ connecting all of us as neighbors
as children of God. And anything that is not God's will or truth is removed in the process,
so the salvation of humanity is made complete.
