Are you ready to start voting third party yet?

[frigidweirdo]

A third party could win a presidential election. But only if it found a national hero to run for the office. The only way such a hero could emerge is through winning, in a very short time, a World War. Like a general.

The sooner we have World War III the sooner we can take America back. Provided, of course the "hero" referenced above emerges and America wins. A little better chance of that these days than under (failed) New Messiah/Apologist-in-Chief Comrade Kenya.

But only a little.

You want to take America back? Really, truly, seriously?

Only one way. Demand Proportional Representation for the US govt. At the very least for the House. Also a French style run off election for the Presidency instead of the feeble attempt at democracy that is the Electoral College.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Trump is the closest thing we've ever had.

Trump is a useless sack of garbage who somehow has you fooled. How i really don’t know.

If he's so useless why is America booming?

How can you possible give Trump any credit.

He has done little or nothing so far for the economy.

The economy is self-righting.

You're just not paying attention. His tax reform bill has persuaded companies not to leave the US and has induced American companies that huge foreign profits they do not invest in the US because of the taxes they would have to pay on these foreign profits to repatriate hundreds of billions of dollar and begin to invest this money in the US economy.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I’ve been voting third-party for years. The last presidential election I voted for either a Republican or Democrat was 2004

I seriously don't understand voting for some one you know can't win.

I can't understand voting for someone you know is going to be shit, and screw you over, and not do their job properly and not represent the people they're supposed to represent.

Your attitude is the very attitude the two main parties encourage.

I haven't seen a third party candidate who had a chance of winning, but I do see one candidate being better than the other in terms of supporting my positions on Issue. I agreed with Trump on many issues and Hillary didn't have positions on most issues, so it was an easy decision. As you grow up, much of life becomes about compromises. Most people don't get the job they really want, earn as much as they really want, marry the woman they really would have wanted to marry or have children who are as perfect as they would have liked, but they are at peace with this because they know they did the best they could have, so I don't look for emotional fulfillment when I vote for president, I just look the the best candidate who has a chance to win the election.

Well, in Germany people get to choose the candidate, or better said the political party who will represent them the best in office.

In the US you get to choose the least crap choice between the two political parties.

Generally the US system is negative voting.

You get Trump and you get Hillary and you go "Which one would I hate to see in power?" and then you vote.

And then you realize that if you're not in one of 12 states, it doesn't matter who you voted for anyway.

Look at how many votes didn't matter.

States that matter, where really you going out and voting could decide the election.

Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Minnesota, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa and Ohio.

If you're not in any of these states, it doesn't really matter.

In the other states, you're looking at millions and millions of votes that simply go and get wasted.

Republicans in California, Democrats in Texas. Why do they bother? Their vote doesn't matter. They don't get a say in the electoral process.

They count the votes, they tell you "this person got this many votes" and it doesn't matter.

You're completely wrong. In the last election Trump supporters came out with great enthusiasm and well versed on what his positions on issues were, but Hillary's supporters didn't seem to know what her positions were. In most presidential elections the winner has a more enthusiastic constituency than the loser. Now Germany has a parliamentary system, so there is room for several parties to sit in the parliament, but only a few dominate the government and that turns out to be very much like what happens in the US Congress.

 

[Oddball]

 

[HappyJoy]

Are you ready to start voting third party yet?

sure.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I’ve been voting third-party for years. The last presidential election I voted for either a Republican or Democrat was 2004

I seriously don't understand voting for some one you know can't win.

I can't understand voting for someone you know is going to be shit, and screw you over, and not do their job properly and not represent the people they're supposed to represent.

Your attitude is the very attitude the two main parties encourage.

I haven't seen a third party candidate who had a chance of winning, but I do see one candidate being better than the other in terms of supporting my positions on Issue. I agreed with Trump on many issues and Hillary didn't have positions on most issues, so it was an easy decision. As you grow up, much of life becomes about compromises. Most people don't get the job they really want, earn as much as they really want, marry the woman they really would have wanted to marry or have children who are as perfect as they would have liked, but they are at peace with this because they know they did the best they could have, so I don't look for emotional fulfillment when I vote for president, I just look the the best candidate who has a chance to win the election.

Well, in Germany people get to choose the candidate, or better said the political party who will represent them the best in office.

In the US you get to choose the least crap choice between the two political parties.

Generally the US system is negative voting.

You get Trump and you get Hillary and you go "Which one would I hate to see in power?" and then you vote.

And then you realize that if you're not in one of 12 states, it doesn't matter who you voted for anyway.

Look at how many votes didn't matter.

States that matter, where really you going out and voting could decide the election.

Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Minnesota, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa and Ohio.

If you're not in any of these states, it doesn't really matter.

In the other states, you're looking at millions and millions of votes that simply go and get wasted.

Republicans in California, Democrats in Texas. Why do they bother? Their vote doesn't matter. They don't get a say in the electoral process.

They count the votes, they tell you "this person got this many votes" and it doesn't matter.

You're completely wrong. In the last election Trump supporters came out with great enthusiasm and well versed on what his positions on issues were, but Hillary's supporters didn't seem to know what her positions were. In most presidential elections the winner has a more enthusiastic constituency than the loser. Now Germany has a parliamentary system, so there is room for several parties to sit in the parliament, but only a few dominate the government and that turns out to be very much like what happens in the US Congress.

What his political positions were? How would anyone know what his positions are? He was massively contradictory.

141 stances on 23 issues Donald Trump took during his White House bid

1) Immigration

Wall and deport the illegal immigrants. Yes, his supporters loved this one.

What they ignored because it wasn't convenient was:

Bring back the good illegal immigrants legally. Huh? The good ones? You mean the illegal immigrants who weren't breaking the law?

Make Mexico pay for the wall. Not happening, is it? In fact his steel and aluminium tariffs don't impact Mexico.

Admitted that his deportation of 11 million people was just bluster, then said he'd do the same as other presidents, then said he was open to softening.

Deport illegal immigrants within an hour of being sworn in. Oh, wait, no, he was talking about how huge his inauguration was to be bothered with that.

And on and on. He was flip flopping at every turn.

His supporters "knew" what he stood for because they WANTED TO BELIEVE he stood for what they stood for. Great tactic. If you actually say something definite, you'll get hammered from all sides.

So tell people what they want to hear, and when they don't want to hear it, pretend you were joking.

He's done this so many times.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump is the closest thing we've ever had.

Trump is a useless sack of garbage who somehow has you fooled. How i really don’t know.

If he's so useless why is America booming?

How can you possible give Trump any credit.

He has done little or nothing so far for the economy.

The economy is self-righting.

Hmmm....says the moron that said Dahlia didnt want to own a firearm.
Keep swinging and missing limp dick.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I seriously don't understand voting for some one you know can't win.

I can't understand voting for someone you know is going to be shit, and screw you over, and not do their job properly and not represent the people they're supposed to represent.

Your attitude is the very attitude the two main parties encourage.

I haven't seen a third party candidate who had a chance of winning, but I do see one candidate being better than the other in terms of supporting my positions on Issue. I agreed with Trump on many issues and Hillary didn't have positions on most issues, so it was an easy decision. As you grow up, much of life becomes about compromises. Most people don't get the job they really want, earn as much as they really want, marry the woman they really would have wanted to marry or have children who are as perfect as they would have liked, but they are at peace with this because they know they did the best they could have, so I don't look for emotional fulfillment when I vote for president, I just look the the best candidate who has a chance to win the election.

Well, in Germany people get to choose the candidate, or better said the political party who will represent them the best in office.

In the US you get to choose the least crap choice between the two political parties.

Generally the US system is negative voting.

You get Trump and you get Hillary and you go "Which one would I hate to see in power?" and then you vote.

And then you realize that if you're not in one of 12 states, it doesn't matter who you voted for anyway.

Look at how many votes didn't matter.

States that matter, where really you going out and voting could decide the election.

Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Minnesota, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, Colorado, Iowa and Ohio.

If you're not in any of these states, it doesn't really matter.

In the other states, you're looking at millions and millions of votes that simply go and get wasted.

Republicans in California, Democrats in Texas. Why do they bother? Their vote doesn't matter. They don't get a say in the electoral process.

They count the votes, they tell you "this person got this many votes" and it doesn't matter.

You're completely wrong. In the last election Trump supporters came out with great enthusiasm and well versed on what his positions on issues were, but Hillary's supporters didn't seem to know what her positions were. In most presidential elections the winner has a more enthusiastic constituency than the loser. Now Germany has a parliamentary system, so there is room for several parties to sit in the parliament, but only a few dominate the government and that turns out to be very much like what happens in the US Congress.

What his political positions were? How would anyone know what his positions are? He was massively contradictory.

141 stances on 23 issues Donald Trump took during his White House bid

1) Immigration

Wall and deport the illegal immigrants. Yes, his supporters loved this one.

What they ignored because it wasn't convenient was:

Bring back the good illegal immigrants legally. Huh? The good ones? You mean the illegal immigrants who weren't breaking the law?

Make Mexico pay for the wall. Not happening, is it? In fact his steel and aluminium tariffs don't impact Mexico.

Admitted that his deportation of 11 million people was just bluster, then said he'd do the same as other presidents, then said he was open to softening.

Deport illegal immigrants within an hour of being sworn in. Oh, wait, no, he was talking about how huge his inauguration was to be bothered with that.

And on and on. He was flip flopping at every turn.

His supporters "knew" what he stood for because they WANTED TO BELIEVE he stood for what they stood for. Great tactic. If you actually say something definite, you'll get hammered from all sides.

So tell people what they want to hear, and when they don't want to hear it, pretend you were joking.

He's done this so many times.

It would be fair to say he refined some of his positions as the campaign went on, but they were not contradictory. So the wall will be a high fence armed with surveillance equipment, not an actual wall, but it will do the same job. Calling that a contradiction is just propaganda. What was Hillary's position on illegal immigration? She said she wanted to build bridges, not walls; I don't think anyone, including Hillary, knew what she meant. Trump supporters knew he was going to block illegal immigration from Mexico and deport most illegals who were already here, and only Democrats are nitpicking at the details.

So whether you agree with it or not, Trump had a position on illegal immigration and Hillary didn't.

On the economy, Trump laid out clear plans for how he was going to keep US jobs here and bring many back from overseas, and if you have been following his actions, you know that he is having significant success with his plans. Hillary's economic plan was to raise taxes on the rich and create jobs repairing the infrastructure, as if she had neve heard of the private sector; she wanted to put Americans to work painting bridges and patching potholes and to hell with the good paying factory jobs that continued to slip away.

None of the changes during the campaign were contradictions of his earlier statements, just refinements as he considered the issues as he went along. Instead of deporting all 11 million illegals, he was going to consider allowing some special cases remain in the US, but only some one who was looking for something to whine about would call that a contradiction. The fact is that when pollsters asked voters why they were voting for their candidate, Trump voters could site his positions on issues important to them and Hillary supporters could not say what her positions were.

 

[Slade3200]

What do you think would of happened if Trump ran third party instead of republican in the last election?

He would have split the Republican vote and Crazy Hillary would have won.

You don’t think he would have pulled the Bernie crew in? He would have taken a much more moderate view on many issues. It would have been interesting

Sanders is a socialist, so I don't see Trump being attractive to many of them.

Bernie had a large anti establishment following. Trump did as well. Difference was Bernie had the liberals and trump had the conservatives.

Exactly, so I can't any possible crossover vote among Sanders supporters.

He would have had to run a completely different campaign. You’re right that if he ran the same campaign as he did then he would of had no chance

 

[Slade3200]

A third party could win a presidential election. But only if it found a national hero to run for the office. The only way such a hero could emerge is through winning, in a very short time, a World War. Like a general.

The sooner we have World War III the sooner we can take America back. Provided, of course the "hero" referenced above emerges and America wins. A little better chance of that these days than under (failed) New Messiah/Apologist-in-Chief Comrade Kenya.

But only a little.

Don’t worry, Oprah is coming

 

[Marion Morrison]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

The DNC is certainly corrupt and useless to voters, but I trust some prominent democrats (Nancy is not one). A third progressive party would be great but the likelihood of one becoming popular is next to none. All I can do is examine one democrat at a time and decide if I like them. Of course, even if I don’t trust a democrat, they are still far better than any republican.

Translation: "If there was a 3rd party, I'd want it to be the Communist one."

In America?

 

[Billy000]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

The DNC is certainly corrupt and useless to voters, but I trust some prominent democrats (Nancy is not one). A third progressive party would be great but the likelihood of one becoming popular is next to none. All I can do is examine one democrat at a time and decide if I like them. Of course, even if I don’t trust a democrat, they are still far better than any republican.

Translation: "If there was a 3rd party, I'd want it to be the Communist one."

In America?

Your interpretation of what I said is why you people are too stupid to have the right to vote.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What do you think would of happened if Trump ran third party instead of republican in the last election?

He would have split the Republican vote and Crazy Hillary would have won.

You don’t think he would have pulled the Bernie crew in? He would have taken a much more moderate view on many issues. It would have been interesting

No.

 

[Bush92]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

Nope. As long as the Marxist have control of Democratic Party...the stakes are too high.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Until a third party presents a candidate that can win, it's a wasted vote.

While the Republicans are not shiny, the point right now is to keep the Democrats at bay.

Circular reasoning caused by brainwashing from the two parties....

A third party cannot win because nobody will vote for them, nobody will vote for them because they cannot win. It is also what is known as a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

Nope. As long as the Marxist have control of Democratic Party...the stakes are too high.

You are the perfect little puppet on a string, nothing the GOP can do would get you to not walk lock step with them and they know it.

The deficit for this year stands at 540 billion dollars after 90 days. That puts us on track for a total of more than 2.5 billion dollars added to the debt this year alone. And that was before the massive spending bill and before Trump tanked the economy starting a trade war.

But you will never waver in your support of them....you and those like you from both sides are why this country is fucked.

 

[Bush92]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

Nope. As long as the Marxist have control of Democratic Party...the stakes are too high.

You are the perfect little puppet on a string, nothing the GOP can do would get you to not walk lock step with them and they know it.

The deficit for this year stands at 540 billion dollars after 90 days. That puts us on track for a total of more than 2.5 billion dollars added to the debt this year alone. And that was before the massive spending bill and before Trump tanked the economy starting a trade war.

But you will never waver in your support of them....you and those like you from both sides are why this country is fucked.

Can’t take a chance on communism.

 

[Bush92]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

The DNC is certainly corrupt and useless to voters, but I trust some prominent democrats (Nancy is not one). A third progressive party would be great but the likelihood of one becoming popular is next to none. All I can do is examine one democrat at a time and decide if I like them. Of course, even if I don’t trust a democrat, they are still far better than any republican.

Translation: "If there was a 3rd party, I'd want it to be the Communist one."

In America?

Your interpretation of what I said is why you people are too stupid to have the right to vote.

What a fucking unconstitutional asshole.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

Nope. As long as the Marxist have control of Democratic Party...the stakes are too high.

You are the perfect little puppet on a string, nothing the GOP can do would get you to not walk lock step with them and they know it.

The deficit for this year stands at 540 billion dollars after 90 days. That puts us on track for a total of more than 2.5 billion dollars added to the debt this year alone. And that was before the massive spending bill and before Trump tanked the economy starting a trade war.

But you will never waver in your support of them....you and those like you from both sides are why this country is fucked.

Can’t take a chance on communism.

Yep we do not what a bloated Fed Govt, deep debt, Govt spying on their own citizens, the Govt having the right to detain anyone (including citizens) indefinitely without recourse, interference in private economics matters. Those darn commies really suck.











Oh wait, never mind we have all those things and you are cheering them on!

 

[Bush92]

I hardly ever post anymore, but I felt this was a good time to do so. Wow, who would've ever thought it would be possible to completely outspend the Obama Democrats spending bills? Well guess what? It has been done. The GOP pulled it off! Seriously GOP, nobody will ever believe you again when you say how you're the party of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I've always stated the two biggest lies are when the Democrats espouse how they are the party for working class America, and when Republicans bloviate about how they are for small government and reduced spending.

Nancy Pelosi stated "we won" with this spending bill. Really Nancy, just who is we? We certainly isn't America. Your definition of we is as follows: you, the Democrats and Republicans, and the most important "we" is the "we" both your party and the GOP are controlled by - the rich global elite. I laugh at the Russian collusion diatribe, it's a joke. The only collusion I see is between Democrats and the GOP in that they make sure the only "we" that wins is them and their rich global elitist masters.

Had enough yet? I've heard many frustrations from those on the left, those on the right, as well as those somewhere in between. Yet every election the majority of Americans fall into the same old trap: "oh those Republicans are pure evil, the Democrats are the good guys", or "oh those Democrats are pure evil, the Republicans are the good guys". Well, the truth is, both parties are pure evil, both are traitors to America and have completely betrayed our Founding Fathers.

So what are you going to do about? Keep falling for the same old rhetoric? Keep falling for the line of one party is more evil than the other? Wake up people and vote third party!!! Maybe, just maybe if enough people say they've had enough and do so, we can make some much needed changes. But if you keep voting Democrat or Republican, it'll just be the same old thing. Make a difference people, take a stand, vote third party. Enough is enough already.

Nope. As long as the Marxist have control of Democratic Party...the stakes are too high.

You are the perfect little puppet on a string, nothing the GOP can do would get you to not walk lock step with them and they know it.

The deficit for this year stands at 540 billion dollars after 90 days. That puts us on track for a total of more than 2.5 billion dollars added to the debt this year alone. And that was before the massive spending bill and before Trump tanked the economy starting a trade war.

But you will never waver in your support of them....you and those like you from both sides are why this country is fucked.

Can’t take a chance on communism.

Yep we do not what a bloated Fed Govt, deep debt, Govt spying on their own citizens, the Govt having the right to detain anyone (including citizens) indefinitely without recourse, interference in private economics matters. Those darn commies really suck.











Oh wait, never mind we have all those things and you are cheering them on!

Yep. Democrats got to do all of those things because they stuck together and conservatives split the vote. 1992 comes to mind.