Are you born gay?

[random3434]

those men are low lifes with no back bone as far as i am concerned...certainly nothing to look up to.....

surprised your gay friends even want to have anything to do with them honestly

I agree, anyone who has affairs on their spouses are low lifes, no matter who you are doing it with. My point was some men get married even though they are gay. My roommate in college is married to a gay man, and has been for 14 years. He married her because of his dad, not sure if he's come out of the closet yet to his family, they live in Texas now and I haven't seen them for a long time.


Now, for my friends,they weren't into the married men thing, they just know about it. They mostly want to have someone to love them, and the ones that I still run into are in committed relationships. 2 girls I know have twins together now, and are very happy. Others are like old married couples ~they have been together for so long now.

 

[Anguille]

The fact that it has been spread around in the heterosexual community does not negate nor dilute the fact that it originated in the homosexual community, and/or that homosexuals are at a much higher risk of contracting the disease.

HIV did not originate in the homosexual community. It came from chimpanzees in Cameron.

 

[Care4all]

HIV did not originate in the homosexual community. It came from chimpanzees in Cameron.

in the united states, it did.

 

[Luissa]

HIV did not originate in the homosexual community. It came from chimpanzees in Cameron.

Most scienctist also believe testing for the polio vaccine and development were the reason why it got from the chimpanzees into humans. They get new evidence supporting this almost everyday.

 

[Anguille]

Most scienctist also believe testing for the polio vaccine and development were the reason why it got from the chimpanzees into humans. They get new evidence supporting this almost everyday.

There are lots of theories. One is that hunters ate meat from infected chimpanzees and the virus passed over to humans.

 

[Care4all]

HIV did not originate in the homosexual community. It came from chimpanzees in Cameron.

oh, and it was the african green monkey, so they thought....not a chimpanzee

 

[Anguille]

oh, and it was the african green monkey, so they thought....not a chimpanzee

The web page I just checked that on said chimpanzees also.

The Origin of HIV and the First Cases of AIDS

"So did HIV come from an SIV?
It is now generally accepted that HIV is a descendant of a Simian Immunodeficiency Virus because certain strains of SIVs bear a very close resemblance to HIV-1 and HIV-2, the two types of HIV.

HIV-2 for example corresponds to SIVsm, a strain of the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus found in the sooty mangabey (also known as the White-collared monkey), which is indigenous to western Africa.

The more virulent, pandemic strain of HIV, namely HIV-1, was until recently more difficult to place. Until 1999, the closest counterpart that had been identified was SIVcpz, the SIV found in chimpanzees. However, this virus still had certain significant differences from HIV."

.....


"The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and become HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20043, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans."



....

 

[Shattered]

This was post chimp..first human cases in the US.. Neither of which are female.

Timeline of early AIDS cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[dilloduck]

anyway--don't eat monkeys !

 

[Anguille]

or people!

 

[Luissa]

This was post chimp..first human cases in the US.. Neither of which are female.

Timeline of early AIDS cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not long afterwards, Pinching saw his first case of heterosexual Aids, an English woman whose husband had been having sexual contact in Africa. 'That told us that there was going to be a heterosexual epidemic,' he says, although it took time convincing government health officials. One said, 'Where's the epidemiology?' Pinching replied, 'Well, I'm telling you the anecdote, and today's anecdote is tomorrow's epidemiology. Your move.'http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jun/03/aids.simongarfield

I said one of their first cases and here is the link.
Also they say these people had it for a few years before they knew they had it so you really don't know who had it first do you.

 

[dilloduck]

or people!

HEY I wouldnt go that far !

 

[Gunny]

Most people who recieve blood tranfusions do not know who there donors are that was my point. And HIV/AIDS did not orginate in the homosexual community. For one, one of the first people to get in the US was a women.
And even it is more common in their group it is no excuse to be unexcepting of them and saying it is gods way of weeding them out. Also who would take a blood transfusion from someone they know has AIDS unless they have a death wish. But hey keep sticking up for the guy.

Incorrect. It first manifested itself in the US in the homosexual community.

Where you get the rest of that from is beyond me. It isn't responding to anything I said. Address what I say. If I choose to agree with a portion of a comment and address it, that does not mean I agree with everything that person posts.

People can be unaccepting of homosexuals if they want to. That is their right. But hey, keep tromping on the majority's rights to shove the minority's behavior down their throats.

I'm not taking up for anyone. I responded to something you said and disagreed with it because you are incorrect. Simple as that.

 

[Care4all]

The web page I just checked that on said chimpanzees also.

The Origin of HIV and the First Cases of AIDS

"So did HIV come from an SIV?
It is now generally accepted that HIV is a descendant of a Simian Immunodeficiency Virus because certain strains of SIVs bear a very close resemblance to HIV-1 and HIV-2, the two types of HIV.

HIV-2 for example corresponds to SIVsm, a strain of the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus found in the sooty mangabey (also known as the White-collared monkey), which is indigenous to western Africa.

The more virulent, pandemic strain of HIV, namely HIV-1, was until recently more difficult to place. Until 1999, the closest counterpart that had been identified was SIVcpz, the SIV found in chimpanzees. However, this virus still had certain significant differences from HIV."

.....


"The most commonly accepted theory is that of the 'hunter'. In this scenario, SIVcpz was transferred to humans as a result of chimps being killed and eaten or their blood getting into cuts or wounds on the hunter. Normally the hunter's body would have fought off SIV, but on a few occasions it adapted itself within its new human host and become HIV-1. The fact that there were several different early strains of HIV, each with a slightly different genetic make-up (the most common of which was HIV-1 group M), would support this theory: every time it passed from a chimpanzee to a man, it would have developed in a slightly different way within his body, and thus produced a slightly different strain.

An article published in The Lancet in 20043, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans."



....

yeah, just did a google on it...

when i was in the blood banking field, before i went in to the shoe industry, in the 80's the green monkey was what they had thought....then they dismissed it, and now it is being rekindled....so i'm reading, calling it chimpanzees....maybe the green monkey is a chimpanzee??? i had always thought they were genetically different?

well, my bad for not keeping up with it, after i left the field!!!

 

[Anguille]

I hope not.

I could never understand how people could eat chimps, either. Too close to humans.

 

[Anguille]

Incorrect. It first manifested itself in the US in the homosexual community.

Where you get the rest of that from is beyond me. It isn't responding to anything I said. Address what I say. If I choose to agree with a portion of a comment and address it, that does not mean I agree with everything that person posts.

People can be unaccepting of homosexuals if they want to. That is their right. But hey, keep tromping on the majority's rights to shove the minority's behavior down their throats.

I'm not taking up for anyone. I responded to something you said and disagreed with it because you are incorrect. Simple as that.

The point is, is that it did not originate from homosexuals so those people who claim AIDS was God's way of punishing gays are FOS.

 

[Anguille]

yeah, just did a google on it...

when i was in the blood banking field, before i went in to the shoe industry, in the 80's the green monkey was what they had thought....then they dismissed it, and now it is being rekindled....so i'm reading, calling it chimpanzees....maybe the green monkey is a chimpanzee??? i had always thought they were genetically different?

well, my bad for not keeping up with it, after i left the field!!!

I remember the green monkey story too, which is not far off as the virus seems to affect monkeys too.

Apes are not monkeys though.

 

[Luissa]

Incorrect. It first manifested itself in the US in the homosexual community.

Where you get the rest of that from is beyond me. It isn't responding to anything I said. Address what I say. If I choose to agree with a portion of a comment and address it, that does not mean I agree with everything that person posts.

People can be unaccepting of homosexuals if they want to. That is their right. But hey, keep tromping on the majority's rights to shove the minority's behavior down their throats.

I'm not taking up for anyone. I responded to something you said and disagreed with it because you are incorrect. Simple as that.

Didn't they say the same thing about black people when they wanted desegregation.

 

[Luissa]

Incorrect. It first manifested itself in the US in the homosexual community.

Where you get the rest of that from is beyond me. It isn't responding to anything I said. Address what I say. If I choose to agree with a portion of a comment and address it, that does not mean I agree with everything that person posts.

People can be unaccepting of homosexuals if they want to. That is their right. But hey, keep tromping on the majority's rights to shove the minority's behavior down their throats.

I'm not taking up for anyone. I responded to something you said and disagreed with it because you are incorrect. Simple as that.

Polio vaccines and the origin of AIDS
Also read this!

 

[Gunny]

Polio vaccines and the origin of AIDS
Also read this!

Which proves what? Nothing. The homosexual community was STILL the first country in this nation to be ravaged by the disease. It doesn't matter WHAT or WHO they can trace the origin back to. That doesn't address what I posted.