Are you born gay?

[glockmail]

Interesting. And do you know any homosexuals who were happily married who also decided they were denying their natural inclinations, and who are now happily homosexuals?

More to the point, and in answer to Bass's idiotic belief that people choose to be inclined toward homosexuality....

... are YOU choosing to be a heterosexual, Glock? Yes? No?

Did you choose to be hetero, and then your homosexual urges just vanished, or what?

How does that work? This lifelong heterosexual who never felt that way about men or boys really wants to know.

Or did you, like most of us, discover when you were approaching puberty (or even much earlier than that) that you liked the look of the opposite gender?

Now, I do not doubt there are some people who find both genders sexually appealing.

But those people are, I think, somewhat rare.

And oh, by the way?

I don't think they choose to be that way, either.

Wow you begin with an absence of logic then go further with it.

 

[AllieBaba]

Interesting. And do you know any homosexuals who were happily married who also decided they were denying their natural inclinations, and who are now happily homosexuals?

More to the point, and in answer to Bass's idiotic belief that people choose to be inclined toward homosexuality....

... are YOU choosing to be a heterosexual, Glock? Yes? No?

Did you choose to be hetero, and then your homosexual urges just vanished, or what?

How does that work? This lifelong heterosexual who never felt that way about men or boys really wants to know.

Or did you, like most of us, discover when you were approaching puberty (or even much earlier than that) that you liked the look of the opposite gender?

Now, I do not doubt there are some people who find both genders sexually appealing.

But those people are, I think, somewhat rare.

And oh, by the way?

I don't think they choose to be that way, either.

However, you'd be wrong. The idea that people are hardwired with regards to their sexual orientation has been proved a fallacy. People aren't hardwired to have sex with the opposite sex, nor are they hardwired to be homo. It's a choice.

 

[Anguille]

You didn't direct it at Allie specifically either. But now you're insinuating that I'm gay, proving my point yet again, that liberals always use gay as an insult.

No, I'm insulting you for hating gays, when by your own logic, you might be one yourself.

 

[Anguille]

However, you'd be wrong. The idea that people are hardwired with regards to their sexual orientation has been proved a fallacy. People aren't hardwired to have sex with the opposite sex, nor are they hardwired to be homo. It's a choice.

Go back and read editec's posts very very slowly. It might sink in what he's saying.

I suppose you support arranged marriages too, seeing as, from what you imply, a person can make themselves love another person.

 

[AllieBaba]

Libs also use racial slurs while attacking others for being racist.

It's part of their schtick.

 

[AllieBaba]

Go back and read editec's posts very very slowly. It might sink in what he's saying.

I suppose you support arranged marriages too, seeing as, from what you imply, a person can make themselves love another person.

Great, yet another fascist who thinks they can read the minds of others. Just what we need.

You guys can't find what you want in what is actually said by the opposition, so you just make stuff up.

 

[glockmail]

No, I'm insulting you for hating gays, when by your own logic, you might be one yourself.

Again an insinuation of "gay" as an insult, along with the added "hater". Both unfounded.

 

[Ravi]

Again an insinuation of "gay" as an insult, along with the added "hater". Both unfounded.

It's pretty clear to most of us here that you made a choice not to be gay. That is your right, of course. Was it difficult for you? I imagine it's kind of like quitting smoking...you probably have more infrequent cravings but they pop up at the most unexpected times.

 

[Anguille]

Again an insinuation of "gay" as an insult, along with the added "hater". Both unfounded.

Wow! Say the word "gay' around you and you immediately get defensive. What's up with that? And why would being called "gay' offend you so much?

 

[AllieBaba]

Use the word "gay" as an insult, and people will get defensive.

 

[Anguille]

Use the word "gay" as an insult, and people will get defensive.

You can call me gay, it won't bother me. I wouldn't be ashamed to be gay.

 

[Care4all]

Interesting. And do you know any homosexuals who were happily married who also decided they were denying their natural inclinations, and who are now happily homosexuals?

More to the point, and in answer to Bass's idiotic belief that people choose to be inclined toward homosexuality....

... are YOU choosing to be a heterosexual, Glock? Yes? No?

Did you choose to be hetero, and then your homosexual urges just vanished, or what?

How does that work? This lifelong heterosexual who never felt that way about men or boys really wants to know.

Or did you, like most of us, discover when you were approaching puberty (or even much earlier than that) that you liked the look of the opposite gender?

Now, I do not doubt there are some people who find both genders sexually appealing.

But those people are, I think, somewhat rare.

And oh, by the way?

I don't think they choose to be that way, either.

There is nothing editec that supports your theory of being BORN gay, nothing as of yet, at least.

you have totally disregarded the "environment the child is brought up in" which could have a part in it...as example, there are many single, overbearing mothers rearing boys with no DAD in sight which COULD be a factor, there are hormones in formula and milk by products and beef that our cattle are receiving that could also be a factor...after all, we now have cases of 5 year old girls beginning Menstruation.....these are just 2 examples of a child's environment that COULD affect ones sexual preference that would not show up in the human genome, but are factors none the less....

Bottom line, we just don't know enough yet on this topic....imo.

Care

 

[Inferno]

I was I can't swear that anyone else is but I sure was. A long time ago.

 

[Anguille]

There is nothing editec that supports your theory of being BORN gay, nothing as of yet, at least.

you have totally disregarded the "environment the child is brought up in" which could have a part in it...as example, there are many single, overbearing mothers rearing boys with no DAD in sight which COULD be a factor

Care

That old blame it on the mother theory went out of style in the fifties. It's still a prevailing stereotype however.
I'd be more inclined to think a distant and unloving father would be a factor in causing an emotionally immature man or woman also, to tend to get involved a certain type of controlling man and seek his approval.

 

[AllieBaba]

You can call me gay, it won't bother me. I wouldn't be ashamed to be gay.

Hmmm...you wouldn't mind being labeled as gay, yet to insult people, you call them gay. Then laugh at them when they take it as the insult it was intended as.

Nothing schizo about that.

 

[Luissa]

That old blame it on the mother theory went out of style in the fifties. It's still a prevailing stereotype however.
I'd be more inclined to think a distant and unloving father would be a factor in causing an emotionally immature man or woman also, to tend to get involved a certain type of controlling man and seek his approval.

I think is also have to get to the point where you stop blaming your parents for your problems. My friend is always blaming her mom and I just want to tell her"You need to get over it and move on with your life."
I do get where you are coming from though, I have a friend who can only pick assholes because her dad is an asshole.

 

[Care4all]

That old blame it on the mother theory went out of style in the fifties. It's still a prevailing stereotype however.
I'd be more inclined to think a distant and unloving father would be a factor in causing an emotionally immature man or woman also, to tend to get involved a certain type of controlling man and seek his approval.

you know, i had originally written it without the word overbearing, then added it and then took it out and then readded it......!!!!! lol (Damnit, shoulda left it out!)

i don't necessarily disagree with you....even the pressense of the Father is very important for girls in their adolesence i have read....girls without the father's attention during this period makes them less confident and with less self esteem when it comes to their own sexuality, and studies have shown, more probable to get involved in sex at a much, much earlier age than what has been considered the norm...

Care

 

[Anguille]

Hmmm...you wouldn't mind being labeled as gay, yet to insult people, you call them gay. Then laugh at them when they take it as the insult it was intended as.

Nothing schizo about that.

I laugh because they take it as an insult, now answer my question about the Pledge, you fruit fly.

 

[AllieBaba]

Ok, I don't see a Pledge question?

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm still confused why you would use a word AS an insult, then jeer at people because they take it the way it's meant.