Are you born gay?

[editec]

Is this not a duplicate of a thread started by "TheBass"? It sure reads like it.

The closet brigade strikes again, CA.

It would not at all surprise me if Bass and Sunni are the same self loathing repressed homo to be frank.

 

[jla1178]

Until there is scientific proof that the human genome or DNA is different in someone who is gay and someone that is not, I simply can not say that homosexuals are born this way.

Wouldn't have to be genetic. For the first few weeks of life, all fetuses are female. Either certain organs drop and become testes or they stay and become ovaries.

 

[Care4all]

Wouldn't have to be genetic. For the first few weeks of life, all fetuses are female. Either certain organs drop and become testes or they stay and become ovaries.

please explain?

how does this relate to being ''born'' gay jla?

and even if all fetuses appear to be female in the early weeks, the DNA of the fetus is already marked as being male or female...if XX it is a female, if XY a male? this IS genetic....the sex determination takes place upon fertilization by the sperm, even if it does not show up in the fetus until later?

 

[Anguille]

A person has no control over what color their skin is when they are born. That is normal and natural.

But to be a rapist, murder, child molester, homosexual, or other sexual devient is a "Choice"

God had nothing to do with these people perverse behavior.

This is where your logic falls apart. You lump homosexuals in with murderers/rapists/ child molesters while ignoring the glaring difference between the two groups. Homosexuality is about consensual sex, the other things you mention are about violence and exerting control over another human being.

Sunni moron, you should be ashamed of yourself expressing this kind of hatred and bigotry at this time. You know it is especially offensive to Allah to do these kinds of things during Ramadam.

 

[editec]

This is where your logic falls apart. You lump homosexuals in with murderers/rapists/ child molesters while ignoring the glaring difference between the two groups. Homosexuality is about consensual sex, the other things you mention are about violence and exerting control over another human being.

Sunni moron, you should be ashamed of yourself expressing this kind of hatred and bigotry at this time. You know it is especially offensive to Allah to do these kinds of things during Ramadam.

Logic?

Sunni has made no appeal to logic.

 

[jla1178]

please explain?

how does this relate to being ''born'' gay jla?

and even if all fetuses appear to be female in the early weeks, the DNA of the fetus is already marked as being male or female...if XX it is a female, if XY a male? this IS genetic....the sex determination takes place upon fertilization by the sperm, even if it does not show up in the fetus until later?

Just seems to me that there may be room for something not going according to plan between the physical gender selection and the mental. Where they are physically one but think more like the other. Just musing. Not a doctor and don't play one on TV.

 

[Luissa]

Well, i am not a bigot, i do not begin to judge the salvation of all gays or any individual gay person....

BUT

Until there is scientific proof that the human genome or DNA is different in someone who is gay and someone that is not, I simply can not say that homosexuals are born this way...and personally, I don't believe that anyone on this board can say such either, other than in a speculative presumption.

If there is a scientific difference, I'm certain our Scientists will find it, soon. Mainly because they are finding out more and more each day with their genome/dna research.

care

As American they say we are free so why can't someone be free to make the choice to be gay. I am not saying they are not born that way, I am just saying who cares! You have the freedom to pick whoever you want to marry why can't it be the same for everyone in this country? They are not hurting your lifestyle in anyway so don't hurt their lifestyle.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

So people from Africa are a dud to you?

Queers are duds wherever they live sis... Nature doesn't care where you call home when you can't muster the self discipline to avoid devient behavior; she'll inevitably strip you of the means to further sully the gene pool.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

As American they say we are free so why can't someone be free to make the choice to be gay. I am not saying they are not born that way, I am just saying who cares! You have the freedom to pick whoever you want to marry why can't it be the same for everyone in this country? They are not hurting your lifestyle in anyway so don't hurt their lifestyle.

Because Queer behavior leads to the contraction of lethal viruses... You are free based upon the principle that liberty is founded upon the responsibility that you do not usurp the rights of others... infecting someone through your devient behavior; whether you infect them through the use of needles, through donating blood or through your inability to resist the desire for deviant sex, you do not have a right to infect another with a lethal virus, thus you do NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN BEHAVIOR WHICH PROMOTES THE TRANSMISSION OF THAT VIRUS ...

 

[Luissa]

Queers are duds wherever they live sis... Nature doesn't care where you call home when you can't muster the self discipline to avoid devient behavior; she'll inevitably strip you of the means to further sully the gene pool.

You didn't answer my question?

 

[Care4all]

As American they say we are free so why can't someone be free to make the choice to be gay. I am not saying they are not born that way, I am just saying who cares! You have the freedom to pick whoever you want to marry why can't it be the same for everyone in this country? They are not hurting your lifestyle in anyway so don't hurt their lifestyle.

They are free to make a choice, (individual free will) I have never said that they weren't free to do such?

The question of this thread was whether or not gays were (genectically) "born" gay, and this is what I was answering, as honestly and logically as I could!

Care

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Wouldn't have to be genetic. For the first few weeks of life, all fetuses are female. Either certain organs drop and become testes or they stay and become ovaries.

Very GOOD Scooter... Now when the testes drop we call those males and they are designed to mate with the females... queers are those freaks which simply can't muster the self discipline to avoid playing with their buddies junk... They're freaks of nature and healthy cultures do not raise their freaks to 'preferred' status. Queers are to be shunned and ridiculed, belittled and berated... When a culture accepts and celebrates their freaks, it can be certain of realizing an increase in freakage. Cultures which normalize freakage must inevitably fall to those which reject the duds and celebrate those that maintain exponentially higher standards.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

You didn't answer my question?

I most certainly did answer your question. That you're intellectually incapable of recognizing that is not my problem.

Now if you need to complain about it, I suggest yu begin with your parents... they're the ones that laid the faulty genetic work, along with their failure to educate you with sufficient readng comprehension suitable for reasoned discourse.

 

[Care4all]

Just seems to me that there may be room for something not going according to plan between the physical gender selection and the mental. Where they are physically one but think more like the other. Just musing. Not a doctor and don't play one on TV.

hahahahahahahaha! Nor do i play one! But i have had an interest in the human genome/genetics/DNA/fertility and all the discoveries they have been making lately so i have been spending some free time reading up on it...

 

[Luissa]

I most certainly did answer your question. That you're intellectually incapable of recognizing that is not my problem.

Now if you need to complain about it, I suggest yu begin with your parents... they're the ones that laid the faulty genetic work, along with their failure to educate you with sufficient readng comprehension suitable for reasoned discourse.

I asked you if African's are duds where there is the most cases of AID's. All you gave me was your bigot response. Answer my question. Because in your answer they asked for it. Do alittle research and you will see the white man is one of the reasons AIDS is in Africa. I will give you a hint, it has to do with the polio vaccine.

 

[Anguille]

...thus you do NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN BEHAVIOR WHICH PROMOTES THE TRANSMISSION OF THAT VIRUS ...

No sex at all then, for anyone, of any sexual persuasion.

No sneezing either, I guess. Wouldn't want to promote the cold virus.

 

[jla1178]

queers are those freaks which simply can't muster the self discipline to avoid playing with their buddies junk.

As you obviously have mustered.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

The closet brigade strikes again, CA.

It would not at all surprise me if Bass and Sunni are the same self loathing repressed homo to be frank.

The Bass is *NOT* Sunni and as for this thread which asks a stupid quetion, no, no one is born gay.

 

[Luissa]

No sex at all then, for anyone, of any sexual persuasion.

No sneezing either, I guess. Wouldn't want to promote the cold virus.

Don't tell him that, he is going to start thinking people who sneeze are the down fall of society. And I love how he thinks that if I don't have a problem with gay people my parents raised me wrong. When really my parents raised me to excepting of everyone and their beliefs. My father is a white male who was never around gay people but he kept an open mind.

 

[Anguille]

The Bass is *NOT* Sunni

Perhaps.

You and Sunshine would sure make a cute couple though.