Are you born gay?

[glockmail]

I had no idea ignoring involved responding. How... unique!

Mos' wud have figgid it out. Ba fa yu, let me deminstrate:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Mos' wud have figgid it out. Ba fa yu, let me deminstrate:

Sorry. Try english and get back to me. Maybe Sitarro understands what you're saying, if he isn't dodging wigger bullets, that is.

 

[glockmail]

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[Luissa]

It is an obvious fact that Homosexuals cannot reproduce. Therefore someone cannot have a genetic homosexual parent. Since traits are passed on through generations, it is clear that the “trait” of homosexuality is not passed on through generations, but is in fact a learned response. Further, since I have known several who have been homosexuals in college and then entered into a heterosexual long term relationship, it is clear that they made a poor choice during a less mature period in their lives.

One argument against this is that a gay man can have sex with and impregnate a woman. However, he would have to become, at least temporarily, a heterosexual to become aroused by that woman, as well as choose the time and place for the relation. Would not that make him a bisexual, not a dedicated homosexual? Further, one would not assume that a heterosexual male would venture from his instincts and become, even temporarily, aroused by another male and choose a time and place for a relation. So why would one assume a homosexual would venture from his instinct for the purpose of insemination? Moreover, if this is how a variant of the species procreates, then where is the evidence to support this? Are there a large percentage of homosexuals, greater than the incidence of homosexuality as a whole, who can claim they have a genetic parent who is also homosexual?

A second argument against my theory is that homosexuals use artificial insemination to procreate. If that were true then homosexuality could never have existed before about 35 years ago.

A third argument against is that homosexuality is the result of some kind of mutation or gene interaction between male and female DNA. If this is so, would homosexuality be in fact a medical abnormality, such as a cleft palette or autism? If that is the case, then why do we have organized groups attempting to normalize and encourage homosexuality? Moreover, where is the scientific evidence to support this? Surely pro-gay groups would have found and exploited this evidence by now.

Every single one of my gay friends said they knew at a young age, my friend said he knew by five that he was different and that he never wanted to do boy thing.Also I have heard some men or women can have either one to many y choromosones or x choromosones. Also there has been homosexuality since at least Roman times.
Also it really doesn't matter if it is a choice or they are born that way, it is their lifestyle and they have every right to live the way they choose.

 

[Ravi]

Who the hell cares?

Oh, maybe Ninja, but I can't imagine anyone else does.

 

[dilloduck]

Who the hell cares?

Oh, maybe Ninja, but I can't imagine anyone else does.

If you were born gay, I wanna know about it !

 

[glockmail]

Every single one of my gay friends said they knew at a young age, my friend said he knew by five that he was different and that he never wanted to do boy thing.Also I have heard some men or women can have either one to many y choromosones or x choromosones. Also there has been homosexuality since at least Roman times.
Also it really doesn't matter if it is a choice or they are born that way, it is their lifestyle and they have every right to live the way they choose.

1. So what's you're theory on how your friends got that way? Obviously their parents weren't gay.
2. Is your theory that this is a genetic defect?
3. There's a lot of things that have been around since Roman times, like corporations, for example. They can't reproduce by themselves either.

 

[Luissa]

If you were born gay, I wanna know about it !

Why because you might be gay then. And as for the conservatives who have an issue with gay people look at your own party. I live in a town where we had a secretly gay republican mayor who had also been married when he was in the state senate before becoming mayor. He solicited sex on his work computer which later got him recalled. And then there is Larry Craig!
If they were able to live openly gay maybe they would have not done these things to get recalled or have to go to an airport for some action.

 

[dilloduck]

Why because you might be gay then. And as for the conservatives who have an issue with gay people look at your own party. I live in a town where we had a secretly gay republican mayor who had also been married when he was in the state senate before becoming mayor. He solicited sex on his work computer which later got him recalled. And then there is Larry Craig!
If they were able to live openly gay maybe they would have not done these things to get recalled or have to go to an airport for some action.

I was talking to Ravi.

 

[Luissa]

1. So what's you're theory on how your friends got that way? Obviously their parents weren't gay.
2. Is your theory that this is a genetic defect?
3. There's a lot of things that have been around since Roman times, like corporations, for example. They can't reproduce by themselves either.

I have no theory beside the fact I believe they were born that way, for one sorry I am not a scientist of genetics.
Who really cares if they are gay or not it is there choice, who cares if they can't reproduce, it is their choice if they want to adopt along with the adoption agency that gives them that child. And if their friend wants to carry a baby for them that is their choice.
And as you say corporations have been around since the Roman times I guess we should get rid of them too.
WHO CARES LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIFE

 

[dilloduck]

I have no theory beside the fact I believe they were born that way, for one sorry I am not a scientist of genetics.
Who really cares if they are gay or not it is there choice, who cares if they can't reproduce, it is their choice if they want to adopt along with the adoption agency that gives them that child. And if their friend wants to carry a baby for them that is their choice.
And as you say corporations have been around since the Roman times I guess we should get rid of them too.
WHO CARES LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIFE

Maybe they outta quit desecrating church services. Sort of a gesture of good will ,ya know ?

 

[Silence]

It is an obvious fact that Homosexuals cannot reproduce. Therefore someone cannot have a genetic homosexual parent.

yes, because homosexuals never have biological children.... srike 1

Since traits are passed on through generations, it is clear that the “trait” of homosexuality is not passed on through generations, but is in fact a learned response.

Learned from who exactly since as you put it no one who is gay ever had gay parents! strike 2

Further, since I have known several who have been homosexuals in college and then entered into a heterosexual long term relationship, it is clear that they made a poor choice during a less mature period in their lives.

experimentation in college isn't the same as being gay hate to break that to you glock......strike 3

One argument against this is that a gay man can have sex with and impregnate a woman. However, he would have to become, at least temporarily, a heterosexual to become aroused by that woman, as well as choose the time and place for the relation. Would not that make him a bisexual, not a dedicated homosexual? Further, one would not assume that a heterosexual male would venture from his instincts and become, even temporarily, aroused by another male and choose a time and place for a relation. So why would one assume a homosexual would venture from his instinct for the purpose of insemination? Moreover, if this is how a variant of the species procreates, then where is the evidence to support this? Are there a large percentage of homosexuals, greater than the incidence of homosexuality as a whole, who can claim they have a genetic parent who is also homosexual?

rambling nonsensical part of your post.

men have been hiding their homosexuality for centuries glock. getting them aroused isn't the difficult......they are men, rub their dick it gets hard... duh... Men, to hide their shame and to keep family from knowing they are gay get married, have children and live their lives as a heterosexuals...so do women... no big mystery there....

A second argument against my theory is that homosexuals use artificial insemination to procreate. If that were true then homosexuality could never have existed before about 35 years ago.

what the **** are you even talking about glock?

A third argument against is that homosexuality is the result of some kind of mutation or gene interaction between male and female DNA. If this is so, would homosexuality be in fact a medical abnormality, such as a cleft palette or autism? If that is the case, then why do we have organized groups attempting to normalize and encourage homosexuality? Moreover, where is the scientific evidence to support this? Surely pro-gay groups would have found and exploited this evidence by now.

explain to me, if you don't believe that people are born gay the little boy who loves to dress in his mother's clothes and who is more like a girl than a boy...explain the girl who never developes a crush on boys but only on her girlfriends or who never feels quite right in the "girls" group of her peers... explain to me those people who state emphatically that they knew they were different from 4 years old...

Do I think SOME people choose to live a gay lifestyle? yes I do whether that be due to abuse from the other gender or because they are in fact attracted to both men and women.... right now I think it's in vogue for young teens to say they are bi-sexual because it's very accepted in the youth culture of today to be gay or bi.... so they stake their claim but eventually they will adhere to whatever they were born to be... homosexual or heterosexual...

But to say that the majority of people would CHOOSE to live a life that brings much more strife and heartache to them is utterly ridiculous. Why would that many people choose to be outcast by society? They wouldn't, it's not human nature to want to be shunned glock.

Now you're entitled to believe what you like, no one can stop you from that but your arguments are full of holes and easily disproved just by looking at society and how it has changed over the years.

 

[Luissa]

Maybe they outta quit desecrating church services. Sort of a gesture of good will ,ya know ?

Give me a ******* break, have you seen them desecratin services personally. And as for not having a gay parent, one of my gay friends as a gay father. His father married a women young and then decided to not live a lie.
And you probably wish we still had segregation! This is the same sort of thing!

 

[dilloduck]

Give me a ******* break, have you seen them desecratin services personally. And as for not having a gay parent, one of my gay friends as a gay father. His father married a women young and then decided to not live a lie.
And you probably wish we still had segregation! This is the same sort of thing!

Gay protest at St. Joan of Arc (Latest Video)… Here’s to you Dan Callender… fratres

 

[Luissa]

Gay protest at St. Joan of Arc (Latest Video)… Here’s to you Dan Callender… fratres

How is a peaceful protest for the right to be gay and catholic descrating churches. They are protesting the right to be a christian. And if god does exsist don;t you think he would love all of children. Some Christians need to learn to be excepting isn't that suppose to be what being a Christian is all about. Give me a break!

 

[Silence]

why does everything devolve into a pissing contest with you dillo?

either you believe people are born gay or they aren't...it's pretty simple really...

as for protestors...well when a church turns you away from the house of GOD because of their own prejudice I'd say that's worth protesting wouldn't you?

Does God not love ALL men who are willing to accept Jesus as their Savior? who are mere men to dispute that?

 

[plt42]

Glock:

You've talked of your disdain for gay men. Do I assume you feel the same regarding lesbians?

Why do you assume homosexuality is all about sex? Is your love for your wife founded solely on that basis?

Why are your thoughts so over-run and seemingly obsessed with something you find disgusting?

To paraphrase Shakespeare: Me thinks thou doth protest too much! Maybe?

 

[CA95380]

It is an obvious fact that Homosexuals cannot reproduce.

I did not even get past the first sentence in this post. Where in the hell did you come up with it is "obvious" that they can not reproduce? Of coarse they can - unless they are sterile

So I am not even going to read the rest of your post.

 

[Luissa]

Glock:

You've talked of your disdain for gay men. Do I assume you feel the same regarding lesbians?

Why do you assume homosexuality is all about sex? Is your love for your wife founded solely on that basis?

Why are your thoughts so over-run and seemingly obsessed with something you find disgusting?

To paraphrase Shakespeare: Me thinks thou doth protest too much! Maybe?

Exactly the gay mayor in my town was all about fighting gay rights and then what happens it comes out he is gay.

 

[dilloduck]

why does everything devolve into a pissing contest with you dillo?

either you believe people are born gay or they aren't...it's pretty simple really...

as for protestors...well when a church turns you away from the house of GOD because of their own prejudice I'd say that's worth protesting wouldn't you?

Does God not love ALL men who are willing to accept Jesus as their Savior? who are mere men to dispute that?

this is a debate forum in case you hadn't noticed----its a fancy name or "Pissing contest".

I don't give a shit what gays do but going to a mass in drag is a bit over the top don't to think ?

There are hundreds of Christian sects that were formed because they had their own and different belief systems. The gays need to get with the program and leave the rest to believe as they wish.