Are You Better Off Now Than Four Years Ago?

[Modbert]

Don't really care.
Hope that annoys the shit out of ya.

So I'll ask again. How did you come to the conclusion that it's all Obama's fault? What specific things did Obama do that created this 'depression' supposedly?

 

[brono921]

That doesn't answer my question
You didn't have one.
You are ignoring the obvious and trying to suggest that Obama doesn't have a thing to do with today's economy.
Quit smoking rock.

 

[FactFinder]

Don't be.
Gay puppet dances are popular among liberals.
Post it up, you'll be glad you did.
Now then, can we ask the people who have been drawing unemployment for three years how successful they've been at finding work during the Obama administration?
Seems like that might be an indicator.
Or those who's mortgage exceeds the value of their property, and they are left wondering if they should continue paying or just walk away?
Or the newly graduated college students that can't find work after busting their tails for four years and accruing thousands of dollars in student loan debt?
How's that "hope and change" working out for them?
Now, cue that gay puppet dance. That shit never gets old.

Wall street sucks the life out of the country and it is some politicians fault. Yeah yeah and qumquats grow on rose bushes.

 

[brono921]

Have you seen his senate voting record?
Or how about his economic policies?
Obamacare?
Did you just wake up from a three year nap?

 

[Modbert]

You didn't have one.
You are ignoring the obvious and trying to suggest that Obama doesn't have a thing to do with today's economy.
Quit smoking rock.

Pretty sure I didn't say that.

So I'll ask again. How did you come to the conclusion that it's all Obama's fault? What specific things did Obama do that created this 'depression' supposedly?

 

[Modbert]

Have you seen his senate voting record?
Or how about his economic policies?
Obamacare?
Did you just wake up from a three year nap?

What does his senate voting record have to do with the economy with him as President? How did Obamacare cause this depression? How did his economic policies cause this depression? I did ask for specifics.

 

[brono921]

Just gave you specifics

 

[007]

Are You Better Off Now Than Four Years Ago?

Yes

yep gold is up.
I have no mortgage.
I have no debts.
And I am still alive.

Yes.

Thank you for asking.

Yes.

Liars.

 

[Modbert]

Just gave you specifics

That's not very specific and you know it. If you're going to name something as a problem, typically one would explain why it's a problem.

 

[FactFinder]

Are You Better Off Now Than Four Years Ago?

Yes

yep gold is up.
I have no mortgage.
I have no debts.
And I am still alive.

Yes.

Thank you for asking.

Yes.

Liars.

Says you. But how do we know you are not the liar?

 

[brono921]

Alright. Let's break it down for someone who doesn't know shit about business.
75% off jobs are from small businesses. They are worth over $250,000.
That figure, according to Obama, makes you a millionaire, despite the fact that you as a business owner earn less than those you employ.
Then you have the continuous uncertainty as to what the Obama administration is going to do next in regards to taxing you and billing you for his healthcare plan.
That makes you a bit undecisive as to hiring people.

 

[Modbert]

Liars.

Because everyone who says their life is better than four years ago are clearly lying? Oh Pale.

 

[FactFinder]

Alright. Let's break it down for someone who doesn't know shit about business.
75% off jobs are from small businesses. They are worth over $250,000.
That figure, according to Obama, makes you a millionaire, despite the fact that you as a business owner earn less than those you employ.
Then you have the continuous uncertainty as to what the Obama administration is going to do next in regards to taxing you and billing you for his healthcare plan.
That makes you a bit undecisive as to hiring people.

Life is full of uncertainty. Any excuse will do when one is a coward, heh?

 

[brono921]

You truly are an idiot.

 

[007]

Have you seen his senate voting record?
Or how about his economic policies?
Obamacare?
Did you just wake up from a three year nap?

What does his senate voting record have to do with the economy with him as President? How did Obamacare cause this depression? How did his economic policies cause this depression? I did ask for specifics.

The simplest answer one can give to someone who's playing such a silly game...

... "everything obama has done is the cause of the poor economy, growing government and our horrendous national debt/deficit."

But this is what the question is that should have been asked, what you should be asking yourself... "what has obama done to IMPROVE anything?"

Kind of hard to answer that one aye bert? Especially when the only news of the day about our economy or jobs just keeps getting worse.

 

[FactFinder]

You truly are an idiot.

You caved!

 

[Modbert]

Alright. Let's break it down for someone who doesn't know shit about business.
75% off jobs are from small businesses. They are worth over $250,000.
That figure, according to Obama, makes you a millionaire, despite the fact that you as a business owner earn less than those you employ.
Then you have the continuous uncertainty as to what the Obama administration is going to do next in regards to taxing you and billing you for his healthcare plan.
That makes you a bit undecisive as to hiring people.

Interesting. Got a source for any of that?

I have this:

McCain’s Small-Business Bunk | FactCheck.org

To justify the 23 million figure, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers referred us to a press release by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which refers to "23 million small business owners" without citing a source. That is actually an outdated count of all the businesses in the United States, produced by the U.S. Census for 2002, when the Economic Census counted a total of 23,343,821 business firms of all sizes. Of those, 16,845 firms employed 500 persons or more, which still leaves just over 23.3 million classified as "small" by the widely accepted definition that we will use here.

That figure is six years out of date. The U.S. Small Business Administration Office of Advocacy estimates the total number of "small" firms with fewer than 500 workers reached 26.8 million in 2006. That’s the most recent estimate. But it is also inflated. Since the total U.S. population was just under 300 million in 2006, it would mean that one in every 11 Americans – men, women and children – is a "small-business owner."

It turns out, SBA’s estimate includes more than 20 million "nonemployer" firms, an unknown number of them sideline or hobby businesses run by persons who actually make their living some other way. Census and SBA count as a "small business" anyone who reported as little as $1,000 of business receipts. By that very broad definition, John McCain himself is a "small-business owner," because his tax return shows Schedule C income from book royalties. For that matter, Barack Obama would also be a small-business owner, by virtue of his book income. As would President Bush and Vice President Cheney, as we pointed out in 2004. Of the 26.8 million that SBA counts as "small businesses," fewer than 6 million are actually "employer firms" with any payroll.

The actual number of business owners who would be affected turns out to be well under a million, and the number of employers would be even less. Based on the number of taxpayers who now report any sort of business income on their returns, the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center projects that 663,608 taxpayers with business income, or business losses, will fall into the top two tax brackets in 2009, when any Obama tax changes would first take effect. Not all of those can properly be called "small-business owners," however. Some are farmers. Many are lawyers, accountants or other professionals who get some of their income in the form of partnership distributions. Others may be passive investors in real-estate partnerships or similar investment arrangements and not really persons who own and manage a business.

I can gather more sources, but you should probably provide one of your own first.

 

[007]

Liars.

Because everyone who says their life is better than four years ago are clearly lying? Oh Pale.

OK skip... prove it.

And when you can't/won't because you won't provide personal information on the internet, and I can't blame you, I wouldn't either, that leaves doubt as to whether or not you're telling the truth. You can lie through your teeth, and who will ever know?

Play another game bert?

 

[Modbert]

The simplest answer one can give to someone who's playing such a silly game...

... "everything obama has done is the cause of the poor economy, growing government and our horrendous national debt/deficit."

Oh, so the Stimulus being 40% tax cuts and extending the Bush Tax Cuts is the cause of the poor economy? TIL!

 

[brono921]

Interesting. Got a source for any of that?

Yeah.
It's called our present economy. You're living it, dumbass.