Are words responsible for Charlie Kirk's political assassination and if they are who's words get a pass, Charlie's?

Show me where I can watch a formal refereed debate then, a one on one with a clearly stated proposition that the two parties debate.
Topic, Shylock. Please return to it and burn the strawman. Words, apparently Kirk's were truthful and forceful enough that they triggered you and minions just like you to violence. Is that your definition of moderation?
 
With democrats at an all time low in approvals the midterms dont look good for them. Its also very likely the economy will be in great shape. Democrats will face adds showing how they support criminals and oppose fighting crime. They lost 2.1 million voters who are now GOP. They are losing the youth vote and the unions. It doesnt look good for them. Hearings ad indictments fr the auto pen forgeries, Biden dementia cover up and Russia Trump collusion fraud will break out in the October before the election. Trump will be able to use tariffs to end the annual deficit and give bonus to taxpayers.
Damn, you need to share what you are smoking. The economy will be in great shape? How the hell you get that? The big stumbling block concerning the budget bill is those enhanced Obamacare premiums. Many Republicans worry that eliminating them, which is the current proposal, will result in those health insurance premiums on the exchange becoming unaffordable for millions of Americans. The backlash could be intense. Ain't that ironic.

I mean what the hell does the Republican party have to run on? Inflation, uh no. Increased employment, uh, no again. Ending the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine. A big fat no. The left is a bunch of commie killers, yep, that seems to be about right. Investigation after investigation after investigation, boy howdy, I know that is why I send people to Congress, to "investigate", legislate--ah, **** that shit. Crime is exploding, uh, no it is not. But damn, you got nothing else to run on.

I mean it is comical really. Are you better off now than before Trump took office? Uh no, the vast majority of Americans are going to answer in the negative. The Republican response. We control the House, we control the Senate, we control the Executive office, and we control the SCOTUS. It is the Democrats fault. WTF? How the hell does that make sense.

Here is what we see. We see the radical ends of both parties. You Trumpnuts on the right who trip over yourselves supporting a damn clown show. And the progressive radicals on the left. I mean damn, how hard is it to condemn the murder of Charlie Kirk? It was wrong, and yes, it probably will empower the Turning Point Christian Nationalist movement, hell yeah, I want to be first in line to kick that perps sorry ******* ass. It was just stupid.

And yes, the Democrat party approval ratings are hitting record lows. But like I said, you are on one fringe and looking at the other fringe. The middle, the independents, they are running away from leaning right and increasingly leaning left. That doesn't bode well for the Republican party. And let me give you my prediction for the economy.

The Fed will cut interest rates, in the face of declining employment numbers and under pressure from the administration, they will cave and lower interest rates. Not ******* good. That will throw gasoline on the fire that is tariff induced inflation and severely lower the value of the dollar, great for exporters, not so good for financing the debt or increasing manufacturing jobs. Those foreign provided inputs are going to become prohibitively expensive. Hell, better to pay the tariffs of foreign produced finished goods.

Thanksgiving won't be all that bad, at least I don't think so. Beef prices will pretty much price themselves out of the market, and most the turkeys on the market were slaughtered last year, that is how it works. I have seen a huge shift from beef to chicken and pork, actually catching most retailers by surprise. And seafood has been somewhat resistant to those tariffs, but they are coming. At least a six month lag time on seafood outside of fresh caught.

But then we roll into December. I see understocked shelves, shortages of goods, and traditional Christmas gifts, inflation is going to really hit them hard. From baby dolls as Trump famously explained, to pajamas and sweaters. It ain't going to be pretty. And before Santa even starts stocking his sleigh, those health insurance premiums for next year are going to come rolling in. For parents, this just might be the worse Christmas in two generations.

So, the people are ******* pissed. Inflation and supply chain issues ruining Christmas. Exponentially exploding health insurance premiums sucking the wind out of any Christmas spending budget. And then tax time rolls around. Those Trump tax breaks, no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, no taxes on Social Security, they all turn out to be total bullshit. The caps, the limits, people still end up paying taxes on tips, taxes on overtime, taxes on Social Security. I mean talk about pissed off. All those cuts were nuanced, I am here to tell you, the working man or woman, they don't do nuance.

So Republicans will be running from one crisis to another. A murder in this blue city here, an illegal immigrant arrested here, and of course, some transgender dude in a woman's restroom. I figure they double down on that proven technique. For instance, inflation has climbed, employment has dropped the Democrats will say. Republicans will counter, yeah, but the female high school one hundred yard dash in Rhode Island was won by a transitioning transgender something or other. Let's focus on what is important. And besides, illegal immigrants are eating our family pets.
 
We keep seeing claims that there are people who's words are responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

Like this as an example: "the people responsible for Charlie Kirk's political assassination."

If words are to blame, can the attacks on thoughts and ideas be far behind? And who's words are to blame (supposedly), and do Charlie's own words get a pass? If so how is that fair?

People are condemning Democrats who have used the word "FIGHT" in political speeches. Well, let's take a look at something quite interesting:

WATCH: Trump used ‘fight’ or ‘fighting’ 20 times in rally speech, Dean says​


and...

Trump's Jan. 6 Speech, was A Key Part Of Impeachment Trial - (he was impeached twice)

There was a discussion at the time: Capitol riots: Did Trump's words at rally incite violence?

later...
Trump using Jan. 6 riot as campaign rallying cry
In Iowa, he called those convicted of attacking the U.S. Capitol "J6 hostages."

yet we have Trump on record: Trump once called Jan. 6 a 'heinous attack.' Now he calls it a 'day of love.'
The former president has increasingly defended his supporters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, most recently referring to them as "we."

Before many were "pardoned" Jan. 6th criminal defendants said Trump incited them

A look into Trump's words: Dissecting Trump’s “Peacefully and Patriotically” Defense of the January 6th Attack

Now back to Charlie Kirk's own words...

:aargh:
And we have plenty of examples of the left using the same kind of rhetoric, doesnt mean we should be violent toward them.

And let's not forget, it was the democrats, who initially criticized Trump for using the word "fight" in his speech.
 
Sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you.

Kirk is allowed to say the most offensive things imaginable. As a result he deserves ridicule, ignoring, avoidance.

Violence is never warranted

I 100% agree. You can combat his words with rebuttal, insults, proving him wrong, but violence is never the appropriate response.
 
Dowd didn't applaud the murder. He truthfully stated that hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which leads to hateful actions. There is no doubt that Kirks words were seen as hateful.
Run along scumbag. Charlie Kirk didn't shoot himself nor did his words rise to that level. You scumbag leftists are PsOS
 
Run along scumbag. Charlie Kirk didn't shoot himself nor did his words rise to that level. You scumbag leftists are PsOS
You are wrong. Kirks words didn't deserve to rise to that level, and he didn't deserve to be shot. However, they did rise to that level, and he did deserve to be shot in the mind of that crazy guy. Kirk knew his controversial remarks posed a risk, and crazies might respond as crazies That's why he had security every where he went.
 
You are wrong. Kirks words didn't deserve to rise to that level, and he didn't deserve to be shot. However, they did rise to that level, and he did deserve to be shot in the mind of that crazy guy. Kirk knew his controversial remarks posed a risk, and crazies might respond as crazies That's why he had security every where he went.
Hmmm, your inept attempt to justify murder as the penalty for speech you find unacceptable validates my belief that you're a POS scumbag.
 
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Au contraire, slow boat. Comparing Charlie Kirk's calm, well-thought out and truthful debates to the claptrap that is spewed on late night television and contrasting the potential for violence of the two, clearly triggered a negative response from you because you have nothing to promote your point now. You seem to be the democrat mayor of nuttytown. LOL, try again, Dainty.
Baiting youngsters and playing mind games is not debating.

Few rational people would refer to Kirk as some kind of a great intellect. He was a garden variety provocateur
 
Take it up with the ADL they were cited by that AI article.

Wrong kind of Jews for the hater on the right. But...

The rightwing haters will go to the adl and aclu when in need

AI Overview

In 1989, Sean Hannity sought help from the Santa Barbara chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) after he was fired from the college radio station at the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB)
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Details of the incident:
The firing Hannity was fired from the KCSB radio station for controversial on-air commentary regarding topics like lesbian and gay rights. This occurred while he was a radio show host, a position he obtained in 1989 as a 27-year-old college dropout.

ACLU's involvement The Santa Barbara chapter of the ACLU defended Hannity's First Amendment right to free speech, leading the university board governing the station to reverse its decision. The ACLU's support is consistent with its broader mission to defend free speech for all, even in cases it finds controversial.

The outcome Although the university board reversed the decision to fire him, Hannity never returned to the station. He chose not to come back after KCSB refused to issue a public apology and restore his original amount of airtime

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Jan. 12, 2004 - ACLU Files Amicus Brief on Behalf of Conservative Rush Limbaugh

"Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh probably never expected the American Civil Liberties Union to become one of his staunch supporters. But the privacy rights group was on his side Monday when its Florida branch filed a ’friend-of-court’ motion [amicus brief] on behalf of Limbaugh arguing state officials were wrong in seizing his medical records for their drug probe... The ACLU contends that state law enforcement officers violated Limbaugh’s privacy rights by taking possession of his medical records as part of their criminal investigation into the commentator’s alleged ’doctor-shopping’ to feed his prescription-drug addiction... The motion, filed with the Fourth District Court of Appeal, claims the state encroached upon the Florida constitution’s right to privacy when law enforcement officials confiscated Limbaugh’s medical files."

— "ACLU Comes to Rush Limbaugh’s Defense," foxnews.com, Jan. 12, 2004
 
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