Zone1 Are White People Wrong to Judge Fani Willis by Our Standards of Marital Fidelity and Ethics?

[Lisa558]

Then why is Fani labeled a home wrecker and Trump….well. When you are rich and powerful and male you can do anything….you can stumble and then claim to have changed while paying hush money to the porn star you were effing behind your wife‘s back.

The OP wants to make it about race…because she is Black, but it isn’t. It is about the different levels of scrutiny applied to men and women.

It’s not about the affair, and you know it. It’s that she hired lover boy, paid him the top dollar allowed - when he never had even tried a felony case before! - and then enjoyed lavish vacations with taxpayer funds she used to overpay her affair partner.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Then why is Fani labeled a home wrecker and Trump….well. When you are rich and powerful and male you can do anything….you can stumble and then claim to have changed while paying hush money to the porn star you were effing behind your wife‘s back.

Yes, and those faults are endlessly talked about. Ironically, by the same people that are telling us, we are not supposed to criticize Miss Willis.

So my question is, are we not supposed to criticize her because she is black? Or is it because she is going after Trump? Or what is the reason that we are not supposed to criticize her?

The OP wants to make it about race…because she is Black, but it isn’t. It is about the different levels of scrutiny applied to men and women.

Miss Willis made it about race in the state, but I quoted in bold above. I’m asking if you agree with that. Well, really I’m trying to ask any black posters who want to comment that question. Unfortunately, I only get an answer from a person who claims to be black, who seems to think that Black people can only respond with profanity and infective.

 

[Coyote]

In my opinion, infidelity is a private matter between the people involved: man, wife, and the other. In the larger political picture, it is less of a moral issue than say, the possibility of corruption with the money issues she has.

The problem with the OP is that the Republicans have long been the party of “morality”. They sold their so,e to Trump and for a Republican today to suddenly rediscover this morality when it comes to a Black woman kind of reeks in my book.

 

[Coyote]

It’s not about the affair, and you know it. It’s that she hired lover boy, paid him the top dollar allowed - when he never had even tried a felony case before! - and then enjoyed lavish vacations with taxpayer funds she used to overpay her affair partner.

But that is NOT the point of the OP.

 

[Lisa558]

But that is NOT the point of the OP.

Except that you were complaining about Trump‘s affair, which also was not the point of the OP.

 

[Coyote]

Yes, and those faults are endlessly talked about. Ironically, by the same people that are telling us, we are not supposed to criticize Miss Willis.

Yet the same people criticizing Willis are willing to overlook the same or worse (sexual assault) in Trump, labeling all such allegations as TDS.

So my question is, are we not supposed to criticize her because she is black? Or is it because she is going after Trump? Or what is the reason that we are not supposed to criticize her?

Of course you can criticize her…who is stopping you? It is just the pesky double standard you refuse to acknowledge while talking about a double standard.

Miss Willis made it about race in the state, but I quoted in bold above. I’m asking if you agree with that. Well, really I’m trying to ask any black posters who want to comment that question. Unfortunately, I only get an answer from a person who claims to be black, who seems to think that Black people can only respond with profanity and infective.

I suspect most Black posters recognize this thread as race baiting or at least that is how I see it.

The real double standard is that women (Kamala Harris, Fani Willis for example) are harshly condemned for having affairs, accused of sleeping their way to the top, called vulgur names…while men have far less condemnation and in some cases feel it is an entitleement wealth and power. The condemnation is far milder and it is apparent here.

 

[Coyote]

Except that you were complaining about Trump‘s affair, which also was not the point of the OP.

The OP is about double morality standards when it comes to sexual affairs and Black women and Whites. Bringing in related affairs is appropriate. If the OP were arguing possible corruption (in my view a greater issue) then you would have a point, but he isn’t. It is infidelity.

 

[Oddball]

Serious question.

I'm white so I don't know. I'm asking any black posters on here if they feel that the white lawyers questioning her are coming from a different place as far as how important marital honesty is, or the morality of romance with someone who is married to another.

In this clip:



She seems very surprised and annoyed that the opposing is asking her about the money that she gave her married lover, for their vacations and dinners and other entertainments they shared. She tries to be a bit of a wise guy, but she does not really evade the fact of having given him money, just tries not to answer about the form.

More oddly to me is that she is not at all embarrassed about the fact that she was doing all this with a man who has a wife at home who may or may not be aware of this affair.

Is that a common thing, that all that would be important is the relationship she enjoys, and has no thoughts or feelings about the wife whose husband she is taking. In her world, it that normal, I guess is my question.

I really don't care.

The ethics of their relationship, viz. their infidelity to the legal system that they're both supposed to be operating under, is the real "adultery" here.

 

[otto105]

Serious question.

I'm white so I don't know. I'm asking any black posters on here if they feel that the white lawyers questioning her are coming from a different place as far as how important marital honesty is, or the morality of romance with someone who is married to another.

In this clip:



She seems very surprised and annoyed that the opposing is asking her about the money that she gave her married lover, for their vacations and dinners and other entertainments they shared. She tries to be a bit of a wise guy, but she does not really evade the fact of having given him money, just tries not to answer about the form.

More oddly to me is that she is not at all embarrassed about the fact that she was doing all this with a man who has a wife at home who may or may not be aware of this affair.

Is that a common thing, that all that would be important is the relationship she enjoys, and has no thoughts or feelings about the wife whose husband she is taking. In her world, it that normal, I guess is my question.

Like those marital standards as set by don trump?

 

[Oddball]

I agree, but when our immoral conduct is exposed, we tend to be embarrassed.

That particular emotional response is nowhere to be found among the hard left....That 'splains the defiant, arrogant attitude of Big Fani, when she -against the advice of her own council- stormed up to the stand and promptly self-immolated yesterday.

 

[rampart]

Here’s the difference: Trump is widely criticized for his sexual excess, and claims to have changed.

Fani tells us we can’t hold her to the same standards and Democrats don’t object to that.

well, if trump claims to have "changed" that settles it. anointed and all.

i'll check back upthread to see if i forgot we were in zone 1 with the others. if so , sorry, but ........this thread was a trap for that, wasn't it?

 

[Care4all]

Serious question.

I'm white so I don't know. I'm asking any black posters on here if they feel that the white lawyers questioning her are coming from a different place as far as how important marital honesty is, or the morality of romance with someone who is married to another.

In this clip:



She seems very surprised and annoyed that the opposing is asking her about the money that she gave her married lover, for their vacations and dinners and other entertainments they shared. She tries to be a bit of a wise guy, but she does not really evade the fact of having given him money, just tries not to answer about the form.

More oddly to me is that she is not at all embarrassed about the fact that she was doing all this with a man who has a wife at home who may or may not be aware of this affair.

Is that a common thing, that all that would be important is the relationship she enjoys, and has no thoughts or feelings about the wife whose husband she is taking. In her world, it that normal, I guess is my question.

(For what its worth)I've read his wife cheated on him by having an affair with his best friend in 2015 and he has been estranged(not sexually involved) from his wife since then...in 2021 or 2022? he filed for divorce against his wife...(in 2020 he was fighting cancer and under cancer treatment...I'm presuming prostate cancer, considering his age and survival??)

 

[otto105]

Or the marital standards as set by the maga florida couple with the husband accused of rape and her a hypocrite on threesomes as a baby momma for liberty.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yet the same people criticizing Willis are willing to overlook the same or worse (sexual assault) in Trump, labeling all such allegations as TDS.

The “assault” was clearly fake, and the verdict indeed motivated by TDS. There was no witnesses nor evidence other than a decades old allegation.

Of course you can criticize her…who is stopping you? It is just the pesky double standard you refuse to acknowledge while talking about a double standard.

Again, I’ve never met a Republican who supported Trumps sexual immorality.

I suspect most Black posters recognize this thread as race baiting or at least that is how I see it.

I disagree. It it a legitimate question based on Willis’ own statement.

The real double standard is that women (Kamala Harris, Fani Willis for example) are harshly condemned for having affairs, accused of sleeping their way to the top, called vulgur names…while men have far less condemnation and in some cases feel it is an entitleement wealth and power. The condemnation is far milder and it is apparent here.

Double standards abound. Anyone who claims at double standards are only used by one side is themselves using a double standard.

In the case of Miss Willis, she is going using the power of the justice system to go after a former president now the presumed future president. Her intent is to convict him so that he can’t be president no matter how many people vote for him. In doing so she has literally claimed that she is out to “save the world“

By those actions, I believe she sets a higher standard for herself. Not a double standard, a higher standard.

As well, she should. It’s called the “clean hands doctrine.”

Clearly, she has failed to meet that standard, not only in her sex life, but in her financial chicanery as well.

 

[Care4all]

The “assault” was clearly fake, and the verdict indeed motivated by TDS. There was no witnesses nor evidence other than a decades old allegation

FYI- There were two witnesses that testified on her side...

 

[Oddball]

I suspect most Black posters recognize this thread as race baiting or at least that is how I see it.

Of course....Every criticism of someone who isn't lily white is "WACIS"!!!!

 

[Oddball]

FYI- There were two witnesses that testified on her side...

Fact witnesses or hearsay witnesses?

 

[Lisa558]

The OP is about double morality standards when it comes to sexual affairs and Black women and Whites. Bringing in related affairs is appropriate. If the OP were arguing possible corruption (in my view a greater issue) then you would have a point, but he isn’t. It is infidelity.

Ah, I see your point. And I agree with you that public corruption is the bigger issue.

 

[surada]

Serious question.

I'm white so I don't know. I'm asking any black posters on here if they feel that the white lawyers questioning her are coming from a different place as far as how important marital honesty is, or the morality of romance with someone who is married to another.

In this clip:



She seems very surprised and annoyed that the opposing is asking her about the money that she gave her married lover, for their vacations and dinners and other entertainments they shared. She tries to be a bit of a wise guy, but she does not really evade the fact of having given him money, just tries not to answer about the form.

More oddly to me is that she is not at all embarrassed about the fact that she was doing all this with a man who has a wife at home who may or may not be aware of this affair.

Is that a common thing, that all that would be important is the relationship she enjoys, and has no thoughts or feelings about the wife whose husband she is taking. In her world, it that normal, I guess is my question.

Wade and his wife have been separated since 2015.

What does this have to do with color? You certainly sound like a racist.

 

[surada]

Ah, I see your point. And I agree with you that public corruption is the bigger issue.

This has nothing to do with corruption. They are adults. There's no conflict of interest. They are on the same side.