Are We Seeing The Last Gasp Of The GOP’s Two Santa Clause Scam?

[Aldo Raine]

Was a different budget offered by dems for him to sign?

So you are saying he just signed without fighting for anything as usual. A coward, a pussy. Thank you for confirming.

 

[Batcat]

One day (hopefully after I am no longer here someone is going to ask the question what are dollars based on.

The dollar is based on faith. If people lose faith in the dollar the entire system might collapse.

What is the US dollar backed by? nothing other than your faith in it

What is the US dollar backed by? In reality nothing but that means nothing also, for the masses beleive that the dollar is good as gold

tacticalinvestor.com

 

[Godboy]

So you are saying tRump is a pussy that could NOT fight for what he believed is right. Strange how he didn't even do that when the Rethugikkkons were in charge of everything and still running up $1,000,000,000,000 debts to add to the deficit!

Fight what? How exactly was he supposed to fight it?

Take a look at right now with Biden. He wants to keep blowing money and not tighten the budget whatsoever. His solution is to just keep raising the debt ceiling. The GOP led Congress isnt going to allow that, so Biden is going to lose this fight. He has no options.

 

[basquebromance]

So you are saying he just signed without fighting for anything as usual. A coward, a pussy. Thank you for confirming.

Trump is a coward. Godboy is a pussy.

we've established the facts of the investigation. Godboy says he was a "Marine" LOL he's a total pussy...maybe he meant he was in The Marionettes? lol

 

[Godboy]

One day (hopefully after I am no longer here someone is going to ask the question what are dollars based on.

The dollar is based on faith. If people lose faith in the dollar the entire system might collapse.

What is the US dollar backed by? nothing other than your faith in it

What is the US dollar backed by? In reality nothing but that means nothing also, for the masses beleive that the dollar is good as gold

tacticalinvestor.com

That is true for every world currency.

 

[basquebromance]

Fight what? How exactly was he supposed to fight it?

Take a look at right now with Biden. He wants to keep blowing money and not tighten the budget whatsoever. His solution is to just keep raising the debt ceiling. The GOP led Congress isnt going to allow that, so Biden is going to lose this fight. He has no options.

you have to fight for what you believe in in life and politics. even when the cat is out of the bag, YOU TAKE THE CAT AND PUT IT BACK IN THE BAG!

 

[basquebromance]

That is true for every world currency.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Fight what? How exactly was he supposed to fight it?

Take a look at right now with Biden. He wants to keep blowing money and not tighten the budget whatsoever. His solution is to just keep raising the debt ceiling. The GOP led Congress isnt going to allow that, so Biden is going to lose this fight. He has no options.

So you are saying the Rethugikkkons didn't raise the debt ceiling for The Fat Orange Shit Giblet? Is that what you are saying? And tRump, whom was gonna reduce the national debt to 0 in 8 years spent $7,000,000,000,000 more than the gubnit took in in only 4 years. How did the Dims trick the smartest man in the world so easily?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

HOw the hell was Trump supposed to stop dems in Congress from blowing money?

How the hell did the Dems on Congress make Trump ask for the most amount of spending in the history of the country?

 

[Batcat]

That is true for every world currency.

Exactly.

 

[22lcidw]

What wars did Trump blow a lot of money on?

Trump himself asked for a trillion dollars more in spending than even Obama ever asked for.

Just send a check for a few thousand dollars to those in the 45 to 60 thousand dollars range negotiating it up or downward if annual income is less or more. I am sorry. You are thieves. Supporting your ways of promoting living and charging others for it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just send a check for a few thousand dollars to those in the 45 to 60 thousand dollars range negotiating it up or downward if annual income is less or more. I am sorry. You are thieves. Supporting your ways of promoting living and charging others for it.

Damn, I do love your drunk post!

 

[Dragonlady]

You libs act like my earnings are yours, and only allow me to keep a portion…that’s backwards.

You act like living in a first world country is free. The roads, the utilities, the infrastructure, the courts, the army and the amenities that you enjoy, like private property rights, and personal protection, are NOT FREE. Republicans view taxes as "theft" of "their money" instead of your share of the costs of living in a first world country.

When you get sick, there are lots of doctors, hospitals, and staff to look after you because of publicly funded education.

There are lots of countries with no income tax, but they're what you call "shithole countries", and you'll need a private security force to keep what's yours from maurading bands of "rebels" and "warlords", and maybe pay some bribes. If you get sick, good luck. If you're wealthy, you can buy some questionable care and hope for the best,

The ignorance and stupidity of right wing voters, knows no bounds.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The cost of those flights was BY FAR the best usage of money on the border crisis that we have ever spent. Before that, democrats refused to even acknowledge that we had a crisis, let alone do anything about it.

WTF?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday flew two planes of immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard.


Gov. Ron DeSantis paid $615,000 in Florida taxpayer money to relocate almost 50 Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard.
The two planes paid by Florida left San Antonio, Texas.
From there, one plane went to Spartanburg, S.C., before continuing onto Martha’s Vineyard.

1) That's $12,300 per ticket, one way?
2) The migrants weren't even from Florida, they were from Texas.

By far the worst, usage of taxpayer $$$ ever.

 

[Godboy]

WTF?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday flew two planes of immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard.


Gov. Ron DeSantis paid $615,000 in Florida taxpayer money to relocate almost 50 Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard.
The two planes paid by Florida left San Antonio, Texas.
From there, one plane went to Spartanburg, S.C., before continuing onto Martha’s Vineyard.

1) That's $12,300 per ticket, one way?
2) The migrants weren't even from Florida, they were from Texas.

By far the worst, usage of taxpayer $$$ ever.

Had he not sent those illegals, you dems would still be saying there isnt anything wrong with the border.

 

[Papageorgio]

So let’s quickly review how Two Santas works.

Back in 1976 the Republican Party was a smoking ruin. Nixon had resigned after being busted for lying about his “secret plan to end the Vietnam War,” his involvement in the Watergate burglary, and his taking bribes from Jimmy Hoffa and the Milk Lobby. He only avoided prosecution because Gerald Ford pardoned him.

His first Vice President, Spiro Agnew, had also resigned to avoid prosecution for taking bribes.

Newspaper and television editorialists were openly speculating the GOP might implode. The Party hadn’t held the House of Representatives for more than two consecutive years since 1930 (and wouldn’t until 1994), Jerry Ford had ended the War the year before in a national humiliation, the unemployment rate was over 7 percent, as was inflation after hovering around 11 percent the year before.

The Republican Party had little to offer the American people beyond anti-communism, their mainstay since the 1950s.

Americans knew it was Democrats who’d brought them Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, subsidized college, the right to unionize, antipoverty programs, and sent men to the moon. And they knew Republicans had opposed the “big government spending” associated with every single one of them.

But one man — a Republican strategist and editorial writer for The Wall Street Journal named Jude Wanniski — thought he saw a way out. It was, he argued, a strategy that could eventually bring about a permanent Republican governing majority.

In a WSJ op-ed that year, Wanniski pointed out that Americans thought of Democrats as the “Party of Santa” and Republicans as, essentially, Scrooge. Republicans, he noted, hadn’t even proposed a tax cut in 22 years!

The solution, Wanniski proposed, was for Republicans to start pushing tax cuts whenever the GOP held the White House. This would establish their Santa bona fides, particularly if Democrats objected. It would flip the script so Democrats would fill the role of Scrooge.

To make it even easier for Republicans to cut taxes, Wanniski invented and publicized a new economic theory called Supply-Side Economics. When taxes went down, he said, government revenue would magically go up!

Four years later, when Reagan came into the White House with the election of 1980, he picked up Wanniski’s strategy and doubled down on it. (In the primary of 1980, he’d even run on it: his primary opponent, George Herbert Walker Bush, derided it as “Voodoo Economics.”)

Reagan not only cut taxes on the rich: he also radically increased government spending, goosing the economy into a sugar high while throwing the nation deeply into debt.

Citing Supply-Side Economics, in eight short years Reagan ran up greater deficits than every president from George Washington to Jerry Ford combined, taking our national debt from around $800 billion all the way up to around $2.6 trillion when he left office.

By 1992, when Bill Clinton won the presidency, Reagan and Bush’s debt had climbed to over $4.2 trillion, giving Republicans a chance to double down on Two Santas. Bill Clinton would be their test case.

House Republicans loudly demanded that Clinton “do something!” about the national debt, waving the debt ceiling like a cudgel. Over the next eight years they repeatedly wielded the debt ceiling, shutting down the government twice. The battles lifted Newt Gingrich to the speakership.

Clinton caved, making massive cuts to the social safety net to get a balanced budgetin a gut-shot to the Democratic Santa programs.

By the end of the Clinton presidency the formula was set. When Republicans held the White House, they’d spend like drunken Santas and cut taxes to the bone to drive up the national debt.

When Democrats come into the presidency, Republicans would use the debt ceiling to force them to cut their own social programs and shoot the Democratic Santa.

As I noted last November, when Clinton shot Santa Claus the result was an explosion of Republican wins across the country as GOP politicians campaigned on a “Republican Santa” platform of supply-side tax cuts and pork-rich spending increases.

Democrats had controlled the House of Representatives in almost every single year since the Republican Great Depression of the 1930s, but with Newt Gingrich rigorously enforcing Wanniski’s Two Santa Claus strategy, they used the debt ceiling as a weapon.

State after state turned red and the Republican Party rose to take over, in less than a decade, every single lever of power in the federal government from the Supreme Court to the White House.

Looking at the wreckage of the Democratic Party all around Clinton in 1999, Wanniski wrote a gloating memothat said, in part:

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2023/1/20/2148273/-Are-We-Seeing-the-Last-Gasp-of-the-GOP-s-Two-Santa-Claus-Scam

Raising taxes on corporations he poor to help the rich get richer isn’t that popular?

Who would have thought?

Again with a lying speculative Kos which has been proven to spin and is an unreliable left wing pretend news site. Anyone who believes the lie are just plain stupid.

 

[blackhawk]

Translation massive spending is only wrong when my party is not the one doing it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Citing Supply-Side Economics, in eight short years Reagan ran up greater deficits than every president from George Washington to Jerry Ford combined, taking our national debt from around $800 billion all the way up to around $2.6 trillion when he left office.

And Republicans continue to adhere blindly to this failed, wrongheaded economic dogma.

5 Reasons Why Supply-Side Economics Does Not Work

Tax cuts, deregulation, and fiscal austerity aren’t necessarily a recipe for economic growth. Here’s why some economists disagree.

www.investopedia.com

 

[BULLDOG]

No, they aren’t …..

The lost income has to be replaced somehow. Tax breaks don't reduce what we already owe.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Had he not sent those illegals, you dems would still be saying there isnt anything wrong with the border.

July 12 2022
The Mexican government has agreed to provide roughly $1.5 billion toward a host of new construction projects along the U.S.-Mexico border to strengthen the U.S.’s ability to screen and process migrants, a White House official said Tuesday.

The agreement was discussed Tuesday when Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador met with President Joe Biden at the White House.

Sure beats what Trump got from Mexico.

August 31 2016
Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto flatly contradicted Donald Trump’s statement that the two did not discuss who would pay for the GOP nominee’s proposed multibillion-dollar border wall, saying, “I made it clear Mexico will not pay.”

“Who pays for the wall? We didn’t discuss it,” Trump said in response to a reporter’s question at a joint news conference after the closed-door meeting between the two in Mexico City.