Zone1 Are the majority of Christian Pastors TERRIFIED of John and Carol Arnott?

Are Professional Christian Theologians TERRIFIED of John and Carol Arnott?

  • No, they are terrified of near death experience accounts in general.

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  • Yes, if they met John and Carol they might fall on the floor laughing!

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  • No, they are terrified that NDE accounts fit with 2 Corinthians 12: 1-4?!

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  • Yes, and they are terrified of Atheist NDE accounts making it know that they are INCOMPETENT!

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  • YES, Christian professionals are generally terrified of confusing TRUTH!

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  • Christian Theologians are scared of HUMILITY and meeting John and Carol is humbling!

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  • Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

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  • Near death experiencer Dr. Kenneth Hagin was correct about IF USA has problems Christian not praying

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If my conclusion is valid that the majority of Christian Pastors are TERRIFIED of Pastors John and Carol Arnott then it seems obvious that many Christian pastors may have at least one demon, that they are being influenced by?

For the life of me I do not know how to explain how The John and Carol Arnott could do one of the best interviews that was ever done with an Atheist near death experiencer but, their fellow Christian Theologians are so COWARDLY that this brilliant video only has 1684 views even after five years!

For the record my wife and I were on our way to a meeting at Catch the Fire where John and Carol were ministering and Satan or one of his clones, attempted to kill my wife. She messaged our daughter and got her to pray but did not tell me because I was driving on either the 401 or 403 and I was doing good just to keep us alive in the level of traffic that we were in.

Then my wife prayed in "The Spirit" or "in tongues" and whatever it was that was attempting to kill her had to flee!

Some powerful beings seem to be determined that John and Carol Arnott do not meet my wife!


At Home with John & Carol Featuring Ian McCormack​



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IF my theory is true that professional Christian Theologians are terrified of Pastors John and Carol Arnott then there is a very positive side to the implications of that theory?

When we find an aspect of a problem that is OUR FAULT or the fault of our group of people then VOILA, we now have the power and the responsibility to actually do something about the problem.

On the other hand as long as we can blame the problem as being ninety nine, point, nine, nine, nine, nine percent a problem that is being caused by a different group of people than us, then we remain POWERless to do something significant about the problem!


 
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Never heard of em...define what you by Christian

You have proven my point perfectly. IF Christian Theologians were NOT SCARED of John and Carol Arnott then everybody would have heard of them and that video where they interviewed a former Atheist who had a near death experience would have gone viral and should have had a million views over these past five years!

The Christian Theologians who have gotten over their fear of John and Carol and have met them face to face though, many of them ended up laying on the floor laughing or crying of in some sort of vision that does not fit with the common Christian doctrine of "Cessessionism" that basically means no big miracles or communication with Jesus since the apostles died.


"Cessationism" (correctly spelled with two 's's) is a Christian theological doctrine that posits the "miraculous" spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit—such as speaking in tongues, prophecy, and healing—ceased to be available to the Church after the apostolic age.

I believe that the majority of Christian Theologians are somewhat like the elected officials in the "Ottawa Swamp' who prefer the EXCUSE to do nothing that the Canadian Federal Deficit Gives to them, over, TELLING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH about terrible flaws in Canadian Economic history.

So, this could mean that many Christians professionals will have a Life Review with the Being of Light of near death experience fame that will be every bit as scary if not TERRIFYING that many elected officials may soon have?



"The Deficit Made Me Do It" primarily refers to a critical 1992 booklet by Canadian economists Harold Chorney, Ed Finn, John Hotson, and Mario Seccareccia, published by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (CCPA), which argued governments used the deficit as an excuse to cut vital public services and job creation programs, challenging the conventional wisdom that deficit reduction was paramount. The phrase became a catchphrase for questioning austerity measures justified by large deficits, highlighting debates around government spending, economic policy, and the political use of deficit figures.


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The Deficit Made Me Do It!​

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Harold Chorney, Ed Finn, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, John H. Hotson, Mario Seccareccia
Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, 1992 - Budget deficits - 20 pages


by Harold Chorney, John Hotson, and Mario Seccareccia

“Governments these days find it easy to defend cuts in services and programs. All they have to do is point to their annual deficits and their total accumulated debts. (As of March, 1994, Canada's public debt was about $546 billion.) This public debt provides the politicians with a convenient excuse for cutting spending or raising taxes. Or both. «We're broke,» they tell us plaintively. «We can't afford to increase public services, or even keep them at their present level.»​

A lesson of war​

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The creation of money​

“One of the most pervasive myths about the government deficit is that governments which spend more than they receive in revenue must borrow the difference, thus increasing the public debt.

“In fact, a government can choose to create the needed additional money instead of borrowing it from the banks, the public, or foreigners.

“Business and the conservatives in politics and the media are horrified by the suggestion that the government exercise its right to create more money. They claim it would precipitate another ruinous bout of inflation.

“But money creation is money creation — whether by a private bank or the Bank of Canada. And a government in debt only to the government's own bank is not really in debt at all. If it wants to go through the rigamarole of having the Treasury «borrow» from the central bank and later pay interest, that is a minor matter of bookkeeping. As long as the central bank's profits are returned to the Treasury, the results are much the same as if the Treasury had created the money itself.

“There is no reason why the growth of Canada's money supply (averaging about $22 billion annually in recent years) could not be more substantially created by the Bank of Canada. If that policy had been followed, the federal government would not have been obliged to add to its debts to pay interest on old debts. Instead, the Bank of Canada has produced barely 2% of the money added in recent years, while the chartered banks added the rest as they made loans to households, businesses, and all levels of government. At the very least, the Bank of Canada and the chartered banks should share the privilege of creating money on a 50-50 basis.

“Those who dismiss such a proposal as «inflationary» should be required to explain why it would be more inflationary for the government's bank to create $11 billion and the private banks $11 billion, rather than the present practice of having the government's bank create $0.7 billion and the private banks $21.3 billion!

“Clearly the current problem of the Canadian government's deficit is not its absolute size, or its size relative to the GDP, but the insane way it is being financed. A return to the policies of the World War II era, when the Bank of Canada produced almost one-half of the new money at near-zero interest, would do wonders for the economy, while greatly shrinking the deficit... The first order of business for a post-Mulroney-era government must be to regain effective control of the Bank of Canada and make it the primary source of money creation.

“It is ludicrous for the government to put billions of dollars into circulation by borrowing from the private banks, when it can create the extra money it needs, virtually free.

 
You have proven my point perfectly. IF Christian Theologians were NOT SCARED of John and Carol Arnott then everybody would have heard of them and that video where they interviewed a former Atheist who had a near death experience would have gone viral and should have had a million views over these past five years!

The Christian Theologians who have gotten over their fear of John and Carol and have met them face to face though, many of them ended up laying on the floor laughing or crying of in some sort of vision that does not fit with the common Christian doctrine of "Cessessionism" that basically means no big miracles or communication with Jesus since the apostles died.




I believe that the majority of Christian Theologians are somewhat like the elected officials in the "Ottawa Swamp' who prefer the EXCUSE to do nothing that the Canadian Federal Deficit Gives to them, over, TELLING THE OBVIOUS TRUTH about terrible flaws in Canadian Economic history.

So, this could mean that many Christians professionals will have a Life Review with the Being of Light of near death experience fame that will be every bit as scary if not TERRIFYING that many elected officials may soon have?
Your logic doesnt follow....ooooooops
 
Your logic doesnt follow....ooooooops

I dare you to hold your right hand up in the air and begin to pray in line of Isaiah chapter forty five. I began to do this myself about thirty five or thirty six years ago and I got shockingly powerful answers.

I literally stuck my right hand up in the air and I begged Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to give me wisdom and understanding and guide me as He, [in His pre-existent form], had guided Gentile King Cyrus.

For the record, back in 1990, just after Yom Kippur I was thinking that all five billion people on earth at that time were in off the scale danger and that because I knew how to pray I had a special responsibility to at least pray with boldness and chutzpah.

"Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"


I wonder if I could perhaps convince The Mitt Romney and his family to meet with The John and Carol Arnott and pray for a whole new level of HOLY SPIRIT FIRE in order for them to accomplish.......


 
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More likely that thinking people find them too typical of people who earn millions every year and regularly tell the punters that the Rapture is imminent and that we are living in the End Times .

Gets very boring and laughable when the same messages are trotted out every few years , stretching back around forty years .
 
More likely that thinking people find them too typical of people who earn millions every year and regularly tell the punters that the Rapture is imminent and that we are living in the End Times .

Gets very boring and laughable when the same messages are trotted out every few years , stretching back around forty years .

So, how about you hire yourself a camera person and YOU show up to a place where they are doing a meeting and simply comment on whether or not YOU feel like falling on the floor and / or laughing and laughing and laughing?

You might be able to find quite a few people willing to invest in your proposed documentary - reality film?
 
I imagine pretty much none ever heard of them nor care.

True, but WHY has not this excellent interview with a former Atheist and near death experiencer been promoted by other Christians who do not "speak in tongues" like Pastors John and Carol Arnott regularly do?

I believe that is because of other Christian Theologians turning the Revenue Steam to their church, into an IDOL!


 
Never heard of them and have serious doubt about the validity of their testimonies.
Not to mention the lack of their effectiveness.

Being a TRUE speaker for God has hallmark signs and effectiveness...

There is never any doubts...even after severe scrutiny and death....(because the NDAs are over).

Very very few have ever passed the tests.

Only the unscrupulous preachers that chase fame fear not other pastors but investigative reporters....
Many have fallen prey to investigative journalists due to their lifestyles and vices.
 
Never heard of them and have serious doubt about the validity of their testimonies.
Not to mention the lack of their effectiveness.

Being a TRUE speaker for God has hallmark signs and effectiveness...

There is never any doubts...even after severe scrutiny and death....(because the NDAs are over).

Very very few have ever passed the tests.

Only the unscrupulous preachers that chase fame fear not other pastors but investigative reporters....
Many have fallen prey to investigative journalists due to their lifestyles and vices.


It is obviously a Fact that you have not heard of them.......
There is a reason for that.

My wife happens to have all of the unusual spiritual gifts that Pastor John and Carol ARnott have. I follow my wife to Catch the Fire near Pearson airport in Toronto. I am extremely glad that I hang out with people WHO DO KNOW who John and Carol Arnott are.

You do not hang out with people like my wife, who choose a certain type of fiery Christian church to attend, so obviously you have never heard of them.

My grandmother was a Pentecostal or Charismatic Catholic Christian, and I am glad that she prepared me to be able to handle gifted people like my third wife who is from Ecuador.
 
True, but WHY has not this excellent interview with a former Atheist and near death experiencer been promoted by other Christians who do not "speak in tongues" like Pastors John and Carol Arnott regularly do?

I believe that is because of other Christian Theologians turning the Revenue Steam to their church, into an IDOL!


Why? Because they are nobodies? What are you asking?
 
Why? Because they are nobodies? What are you asking?

Within certain circles they are not nobodies but if professional Christian Theologians would pray and ask to be given repentance for their FEAR of disrupting the revenue steam in order to OBEY the Holy Spirit then there could be a pretty serious shift in the spiritual atmosphere in the USA and Canada.

Why would the near death experiencer of Robert Marshall be virtually ignored by any big name Theologians?

The simple reason is that the people who pay tithes and offerings might prefer to get answers from near death experiencer Robert Marshall or from near death experiencer Kevin Zadai, than from them! They are scared to allegorically throw their "crowns" at the feet of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

The people who are into the New Age and have statues of Buddha, are NOT scared of near death experiencer Robert Marshall:


PROFOUND NDE: BRAIN DEAD for 90 MINUTES; Met JESUS in HEAVEN & RETURNED w/ MESSAGE | Robert Marshall​


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Proud Roman Catholic here.

I've never heard of any claim that miracles have ended. The Mac Daddy of Christianity (Catholicism) certainly doesn't believe that.

Also, I have always found the infatuation with speaking in tongues as some grand spiritual gift to be completely non-compelling. It was mentioned passively in the bible, yes it happens, but what does it do? It's also abused for theatrical performance in protestant/universal churches. It's a sideshow.
 
Proud Roman Catholic here.

I've never heard of any claim that miracles have ended. The Mac Daddy of Christianity (Catholicism) certainly doesn't believe that.

Also, I have always found the infatuation with speaking in tongues as some grand spiritual gift to be completely non-compelling. It was mentioned passively in the bible, yes it happens, but what does it do? It's also abused for theatrical performance in protestant/universal churches. It's a sideshow.

On the other hand near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. claims that when a Charismatic Catholic priest sprinkled Holy Water on him, perhaps in 1980 or '81, he hit the floor and could not get up again for an hour or so.

I don't know if it was then when he was given the "gift of tongues" but it certainly could have been.




 
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On the other hand near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. claims that when a Charismatic Catholic priest sprinkled Holy Water on him, perhaps in 1980 or '81, he hit the floor and could not get up again for an hour or so.

I don't if it was then when he was given the "gift of tongues" but it certainly could have been.




You're just taking anecdotal claims as fact. Do you watch TV faith healers with great hair who drive 100,000 dollar cars and believe it's all true?
 
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You're just taking anecdotal claims as fact. Do you watch TV faith healers with great hair who drive 100,000 dollar cars and believe it's all true?

Some people are actually actors playing the role of Christian Evangelists but they could be Theistic Satanists like former Warlock John Ramirez used to be.

John Ramirez had a near death experience in 1999 and he radically changed his approach to life and especially to obeying Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

He reports that Satan sends some of his most powerful Witches and Warlocks into Christian churches to muddy the water.




 
You're just taking anecdotal claims as fact. Do you watch TV faith healers with great hair who drive 100,000 dollar cars and believe it's all true?

Thank you for giving me a lot to think about.

When I began this discussion I also myself, was wondering about all of this?

Since I began this discussion I have arrived at a couple of conclusions:
1. It is more likely that former Atheist and near death experiencer Mr. Ian McCormack is the main one who is feared by professional Christian theologians all over Canada and the USA!

I based this conclusion on the possibility that IF former ATheist and near death experiencer Mr. Ian McCormack was accepted by a high percentage of Christian Theologians then it would not be too long before they also began to accept former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm, Mellen Benedict, Dannion Brinkley AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY ORTHODOX JEWISH RABBI ALON ANAVA who had a seven minute brush with death back in 2001 on PASSOVER!


Rabbi Alon Anava is so astonishingly transparent and open and honest that he has the potential to become so famous among Christian Theologians that we begin to wonder if he might perhaps be the fulfillment of Zechariah chapter three, as of this time at the end of the year 2025?

I personally make an effort to fast and do some repentance and teshuvah on Yom Kippur. For Yom Kippur 2025 I listened to lecture after lecture after lecture by near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava because he impresses me as being one of the most open and honest theologians in all the earth at this time. The potential for Rabbi Alon Anava TO FACE THE GOLIATH OF FAME MAKES HIM SCARY TO the "Eruv Rav" or to the group of people who Sir Winston Churchill referred to as "The High Cabal."
 
Never heard of em...define what you by Christian

This video will help you to understand why PROFESSIONAL CHRISTIANS may well be scared of Pastors John and Carol Arnott?

I personally plead guilty to being a bit worried that I too might just fall on the floor, laughing hysterically for hour after hour, much as happened to Dr. Heidi Baker!



John and Carol Arnott- The Toronto Blessing​


There is a possibility that friends of Pastors John and Carol Arnott may end up reading this discussion. I should say that my third wife had a trick of sorts played on her about twenty eight to thirty years of so ago. My wife's friend invited her to a meeting that we all Baptist pastors, [but my wife's friend DID NOT TELL MY WIFE THAT THESE WERE BAPTISTS]! When my wife prayed for all of these Baptist Pastors they all fell on the floor and soon they all got kicked out of their Baptist churches. This event happened in Quito, Ecuador during the 1990's. I have to admit that my wife has me a little bit scared of Pastors John and Carol Arnott, but I have to admit that their interview with Atheist near death experiencer Mr. Ian McCormack was BRILLIANT!!!!!!!
 
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