Are democrats intentionally trying to lose the 2016 election?

[rightwinger]

I have no problem with a lot of people living in the socialist paradise of california--one of the blue states that is broke because of liberal stupidity.

I guess misery loves company, but since people are leaving CA in droves and moving to tax friendly states, the people/EC vote ratio may change by 2016.

When those Californians enter Red States do you think they turn into Republicans?

Add people migrating from blue states to a growing Hispanic population and you have states like Florida, Texas and Arizona shifting blue

if they are leaving CA because of liberal democrat failed policies then its safe to assume that they may become republicans in their new states.

Legal hispanics (the ones who can vote) tend to be religious and have strong family values--they are not democrats, watching the dem controlled DOJ and obama attack the hispanic Zimmerman is not going to make hispanics vote dem.

They leave California to follow the jobs. They will maintain the same political views and if anything will be more hostile towards republicans in their new state as they accept lower wages and benefits

Hispanics, by nature, should be Republican. The fact that 70% vote Democrat shows how far Republicans go to piss them off

Zimmerman is a non-issue outside of FoxNation

 

[NYcarbineer]

why would I want to stop Mass from electing who they want? that's not pertinent to the discussion.

It's absolutely relevant. You are making the argument that one party domination is a bad thing,

therefore there must be something wrong with the system in MA that has allowed one party to dominate for so long.

Romney and Scott Brown were not democrats.

So domination has to mean unanimity?

So you're okay with one party rule as long as it isn't unanimous.

lol, you are really flailing, nimrod.

 

[NYcarbineer]

why would I want to stop Mass from electing who they want? that's not pertinent to the discussion.

It's absolutely relevant. You are making the argument that one party domination is a bad thing,

therefore there must be something wrong with the system in MA that has allowed one party to dominate for so long.

Romney and Scott Brown were not democrats.

Mitt Romney vetoed 800 bills while governor of Massachusetts, all of which were overridden by the legislature.

 

[NYcarbineer]

that was not my point. I was only pointing out the mathematical results, not making a right or wrong judgement on it.

thats the problem with most of you libs, you twist things to make everything an argument. All I said originally was the CA and NY made obama the winner--2 states out of 50. If those 2 had gone to Romney, he would have won.

those are facts. no other 2 states have that much swing power.

Wrong, Texas has 9 more electoral votes than NY.

which two red states have as many votes as the blue states of CA and NY?

Since Obama won 26 states, that's not really relevant is it?

 

[expatriate]

redfish should be a whitefish... so he'd match the flag he's waving.

 

[Redfish]

It's absolutely relevant. You are making the argument that one party domination is a bad thing,

therefore there must be something wrong with the system in MA that has allowed one party to dominate for so long.

Romney and Scott Brown were not democrats.

So domination has to mean unanimity?

So you're okay with one party rule as long as it isn't unanimous.

lol, you are really flailing, nimrod.

you are the one who is flailing, dingleberry. Once again you made a false claim, you claimed that Mass was ruled be democrats, I gave you to major examples to disprove that claim.

Are you trying to say that I should denigrate states that choose to be controlled by one party? Why would anyone do that?

One party control of the federal government does not equate to a one party majority in any state.

One of your butt boys made a valid point about the Mass legislature overriding Romney's vetoes.

But lets go with your one party vision for the USA, do you think a dem president would veto any bills passed by a dem congress? do you think a dem congress would pass any bills that the president did not want? It would effectively be a dictatorship with congress being nothing but the funding arm for the presidents policies.

If you see that as a good thing, then you know nothing about history, the US constitution, or virtually anything else.

 

[Redfish]

It's absolutely relevant. You are making the argument that one party domination is a bad thing,

therefore there must be something wrong with the system in MA that has allowed one party to dominate for so long.

Romney and Scott Brown were not democrats.

Mitt Romney vetoed 800 bills while governor of Massachusetts, all of which were overridden by the legislature.

the system works, what's your point?

 

[Redfish]

Wrong, Texas has 9 more electoral votes than NY.

which two red states have as many votes as the blue states of CA and NY?

Since Obama won 26 states, that's not really relevant is it?

this entire discussion has been theoretical, I will never understand why the liberal mind operates as it does. must be that defective liberal gene. hopefully someday science may find a cure.

 

[Redfish]

redfish should be a whitefish... so he'd match the flag he's waving.

wow, brilliant retort. don't give up your day job, stand up comedy is not your vocation.

 

[Katzndogz]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

 

[Redfish]

When those Californians enter Red States do you think they turn into Republicans?

Add people migrating from blue states to a growing Hispanic population and you have states like Florida, Texas and Arizona shifting blue

if they are leaving CA because of liberal democrat failed policies then its safe to assume that they may become republicans in their new states.

Legal hispanics (the ones who can vote) tend to be religious and have strong family values--they are not democrats, watching the dem controlled DOJ and obama attack the hispanic Zimmerman is not going to make hispanics vote dem.

They leave California to follow the jobs. They will maintain the same political views and if anything will be more hostile towards republicans in their new state as they accept lower wages and benefits

Hispanics, by nature, should be Republican. The fact that 70% vote Democrat shows how far Republicans go to piss them off

Zimmerman is a non-issue outside of FoxNation

Businesses are leaving Ca, not just workers. They are fed up with being taxed to death to support the loafing half of Ca.

2014 will tell a lot about the hispanic vote, I know you want them to be dems, but the tide is turning.

you are also wrong about Zimmerman and hispanics, they are pissed that the obama admin is determined to destroy him after the court found him innocent. Double jeopary does not make any segment of the population happy.

 

[Redfish]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

very true, but don't tell the dems, they think that 100% of californians are raving liberals, I guess they have never been to orange county.

 

[rightwinger]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

Another conservative unable to comprehend that people vote not land

 

[rightwinger]

if they are leaving CA because of liberal democrat failed policies then its safe to assume that they may become republicans in their new states.

Legal hispanics (the ones who can vote) tend to be religious and have strong family values--they are not democrats, watching the dem controlled DOJ and obama attack the hispanic Zimmerman is not going to make hispanics vote dem.

They leave California to follow the jobs. They will maintain the same political views and if anything will be more hostile towards republicans in their new state as they accept lower wages and benefits

Hispanics, by nature, should be Republican. The fact that 70% vote Democrat shows how far Republicans go to piss them off

Zimmerman is a non-issue outside of FoxNation

Businesses are leaving Ca, not just workers. They are fed up with being taxed to death to support the loafing half of Ca.

2014 will tell a lot about the hispanic vote, I know you want them to be dems, but the tide is turning.

you are also wrong about Zimmerman and hispanics, they are pissed that the obama admin is determined to destroy him after the court found him innocent. Double jeopary does not make any segment of the population happy.

The Fox is strong in this one

 

[Redfish]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

Another conservative unable to comprehend that people vote not land

are you really that dumb? do people live on the land? do they vote where they live?

 

[Redfish]

They leave California to follow the jobs. They will maintain the same political views and if anything will be more hostile towards republicans in their new state as they accept lower wages and benefits

Hispanics, by nature, should be Republican. The fact that 70% vote Democrat shows how far Republicans go to piss them off

Zimmerman is a non-issue outside of FoxNation

Businesses are leaving Ca, not just workers. They are fed up with being taxed to death to support the loafing half of Ca.

2014 will tell a lot about the hispanic vote, I know you want them to be dems, but the tide is turning.

you are also wrong about Zimmerman and hispanics, they are pissed that the obama admin is determined to destroy him after the court found him innocent. Double jeopary does not make any segment of the population happy.

The Fox is strong in this one

 

[candycorn]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

Another conservative unable to comprehend that people vote not land

Yeah, that was a bizarre statement.

 

[auditor0007]

If the dems continue to support obama's failed marxism and run the failed secstate Hillary, then the GOP could very easily take over the senate, keep the house, and take the whitehouse.

The american people are fed up with being lied to and having the country run by incompetent, arrogant, narcsssistic big-government thugs.

Enjoy it while you can dems, obama has sealed your coffins.

 

[Redfish]

Geographically more of California is republican than democrat. It is only the bloated cities that are democrat and they are big enough to tip the state. Split California and some jurisdictions will be democrat but assuredly some will be republican.

Sort of like Colorado where the people in the north are tired of being dictated to by Denver and Boulder.

Another conservative unable to comprehend that people vote not land

Yeah, that was a bizarre statement.

you lefties cannot comprehend the english language. He said that the large cities in CA and CO dominate the vote even though a majority of the people outside the cities disagree. that happens to be true in almost every state.

what is bizarre about the truth?

 

[rightwinger]

Another conservative unable to comprehend that people vote not land

Yeah, that was a bizarre statement.

you lefties cannot comprehend the english language. He said that the large cities in CA and CO dominate the vote even though a majority of the people outside the cities disagree. that happens to be true in almost every state.

what is bizarre about the truth?

Have difficulties with the concept of "one man one vote"?

Are you implying the votes of those who live in the country should count more than those who live in a city?